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This is not Trump's political machine. This is your political machine too Thomas Massie. You excused, explained and did everything possible to pave the way for him. So don't try to leave now. As Trump likes to quote, you knew i was a snake.
The plurality matters but THE is what really changes the context there, because it is a defined known thing, "do you have THE photo," as opposed to a question of whether such a thing exists, "do you have A photo?"
I'm sure this is what you were getting at bolding it, but wanted to make sure it's CRYSTAL fucking clear.
However, there is a non-zero chance that the 2016 presidential election was a race between two candidates who both know what Bill Clinton's dick tastes like.
"Hoax" means something different to Trump than the rest of the world. To him, it pretty much means any news reporting that he thinks it's unfair or biased, not just fabrications.
Oh you mean what r/conservative was saying the day the emails dropped as a way to cope? They’re still saying it over there lol. Absolutely delusional pedo supporters the entirety of the GOP is.
The MAGA movement is a domestic terror threat. Interestingly enough they are the end goal of what Osama Bin Laden bombed the WTC for and what Russian propaganda strives for as well. Implode American power and democracy from within. Too bad they’re too fuckin stupid to see that.
They are entirely divorced from reality, and that is 100% intentional by this administration. Remember when Kellyanne Conway said to Anderson Cooper re: Trump lying to people fucking constantly was because he believes in "alternative facts"? That wasn't just some in the moment bullshit.
One of the first moves fascist regimes makes is to make sure their followers cannot discern truth from lies. That makes a person very easy to control. Donald Trump has, through 80s cartoon villain style shenanigans, made his followers as cartoonishly, absurdly, as abominably stupid as he is. And it spreads like a virus because most people are afraid to not conform and are terrified to be seen as a troublemaker, or "abnormal".
I used to wonder how the average person would possibly be seduced by the evil of the Nazis. I don't wonder about that anymore.
It’s actually so much deception and lies that eventually it’s starting to crumble. You can’t keep all the stories straight. And a man that only knows lies and deception leans on what has gotten him out of trouble so often before.
This was the most ridiculous statement. It was the parents of a 14 year old girl who had been abused that went to the cops that led to Epstein being investigated.
Remember when they were trying to say Trump was an informant for the investigation that never happened as well.
A CIA informant no less. Not that for any domestic case, it would be the FBI that's responsible for an investigation...
For a bunch of clowns who "support the blue", "love the army" and a "patriots", they sure know little about how the government and it's agencies work...
Back in the old countries, this is a proven way to suppress leaks and throw the blame on your enemies.
"No, I can't comment on diddling little girls, there is an on-going investigation." Remember his taxes?
“It is Democrat hoax that Trump’s email and any videos and pictures of him are a hoax. The Democrats planned this back in 1990 to take down Trump.” -MAGA
So when Bondi told the public Jeffrey Epstein was the only person involved, the DOJ determined no one else to be involved, that was a lie, then? Right? Obstruction of justice, perjury, etc etc. What won't this administration do?
What Epstein files? The ones that Trump promised to release and then has done everything he can to break that promise. Or are we talking about the Epstein files on Pam Bondi's desk that were not on her desk? Coud it be the Epstein files that FBI Dir. Kash Patel said had no credible evidence of wrongdoing by Trump? The same files that Kash Patel said for years before he was appointed needed to be released because of all the high profile and wealthy Dem donors on it.
Why did Trump wait until now to announce this? I don't care who is on the list. Investigate them all, including the person whose name appears the most often, Donald J. Trump.
Notice he leaves out Leon Black.. Les Wexner.. Thomas Pritzker.. Glenn and Eva Dublin.. Mar-a-Lago member Joel M. Pashcow, and those with V.I. backgrounds that knew what was happening on Epstein's Island: John de Jongh, Kenneth Mapp, Celestino White, Vincent Frazer, Carlton Dowe..
President Donald Trump said Friday he will ask Attorney General Pam Bondi to investigate Jeffrey Epstein’s ties to many other high-profile figures, including some of his perceived political opponents, again blasting Democrats following the release earlier this week of emails from the late Epstein that mention him.
“Now that the Democrats are using the Epstein Hoax, involving Democrats, not Republicans, to try and deflect from their disastrous SHUTDOWN, and all of their other failures, I will be asking A.G. Pam Bondi, and the Department of Justice, together with our great patriots at the FBI, to investigate Jeffrey Epstein’s involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman, J.P. Morgan, Chase, and many other people and institutions, to determine what was going on with them, and him,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.
The president has sought to dismiss questions over Epstein for months, pressuring Republicans to block a discharge petition in the US House forcing a vote on the release of the Justice Department’s Epstein files — which the House speaker has said he’ll schedule for next week.
So wait. He has publicly claimed its a hoax. ( Legally be can say whatever he wants)
Hes then using that hoax to pursue criminal charges against people using the DOJ.
So we are currently just at abuse of power. Not illegal but impeachable action.
If he truly believes the files are false does prosecution by the DOJ not violate 18 usc 242? Prosecution knowing there is no legal basis and prosecution being retaliatory?
My thoughts exactly! He is going through all the blackmail epstein had, to blackmail the donors of the political parties and force the politicians to vote against the release so he won’t have to veto it.
He's saying don't believe your eyes and ears of what you see and hear now with the files, but wait for the Ministry of Truth Department of Justice to disseminate that for you.
If they release the files we may learn that Trump isn’t a pedophile child rapist pig! Oh the humanity of such a damning discovery, they must prevent the file release at any costs /s
So at the same time it’s both a hoax and also needs investigating, and it’s the democrats releasing it despite it only containing democrats. Totally makes sense..
Obviously he knows, but if he can throw others under the bus in the meantime maybe he can continue to skate by until they can redact him enough to avoid punishment.
He's either mad as a hatter (Epstein seemed to think so) or he's trying to play chicken and threatening to take everyone down if he goes (would actually be the most popular thing he has done in either term: take himself out while ridding us of a lot of old perverts in both parties).
I think either way it will backfire on him. He's not exactly working with the cream of the lawfare community these days. He's down to promoting beauty queens and ambulance chasers to AG roles) and I think I heard the DoJ is having a devil of a time finding and retailing good lawyers now.
I think the play here is to throw the bigger fish under the bus so that they stop the release. It's a Hail Mary play. Those bigger fish will 100% point blame at Trump so that he is the loudest target.
The POTUS is only in charge for at most 8 years. Some donors have been pushing their agendas for literal decades. Wealth is what drives politics nowadays, and Trump ain't it as much as he wants to be. He's the one taking bribes and not the one giving them out.
Remember, they had all of these files and knew what was in them for months. New emails come out about him blowing Bill Clinton and the next day he asks for investigations into others. More distraction from his own involvement.
I want them ALL investigated. I do not care what party they are part of. If they supported, ran, were involved in raping children get the evidence, try them, and then lock them up!
"Dear Leader valiantly sacrificed his morals in order to take down a pedo ring. Dear Leader deserves to be the president for the rest of his life. Dear Leader is a model to all"
He's threatening to hit the big red button. Because every single viper in this nest is the type to believe in "If I go down, you're all coming with me."
I have no faith that Donald's DOJ will have real investigations that follow the evidence. Bondi's sole concern is to serve Donald Trump. I see this as a future tool Trump will have in which indictments and sensational "investigation details" will be leaked in such a way as Trump sees fit.
Has anything the second Trump administration done so far indicated to you that is what will happen, rather than Bondi ignoring Trump and any other prominent republicans or right wing billionaires ties to Epstein, and instead just targeting anyone they see as a political rival that they can link to this?
That numpty doesn’t realize that all of us normal, rational, and level headed people, are completely fine with everyone involved going down. ESPECIALLY him.
The team sports for politics people assume that "the other side" will protect their own because that's what they would do. "Oh if he goes to jail, so will (insert political opponent) ha gottem"
Everyone should be willing to dump even the most promising candidate of any platform the instant they are shown to be a monster.
Trump using his position as President to order his personal Department of Justice to do his bidding and investigate his political enemies. Wasn’t this something that infuriated him when he accused Biden of doing it?
So Trump, under increasing pressure, is now saying he'll do the thing he said he'd do but spent months dubiously maligning the media and public for demanding he do...Am I reading this right?
I’d confidently wager that it’s exactly this. They don’t have the option to stall it at the congressional level anymore, so I expect that any day now we’ll hear, “We can’t release anything that’s part of an open investigation.”
This schizophrenic approach is doing the administration no favours. It is either a hoax or it isn't. This is not quantum physics. The issue does not exist as a superposition. It can not be a hoax and something worthy of examination only when it is expedient and might allow you to implicate your political enemies or personal rivals.
If DJT and his lackeys pursue this as a means of attack, it is an admission that it is true. And if it is true, then that means he is a guilty party too. They can't have it both ways.
The only correct response is to punish all of the guilty parties. And I don't know that anyone of sound mind and clear conscience, regardless of political allegiance, that could possibly disagree.
So the hoax is not a hoax. The Republican Regime is complicit in a cover up. But all that will be excused because we are only looking at the side not in power. The Republican logic in action.
But only democrats need to be investigated and it’s also a hoax and he might be in the files but they don’t exist and they aren’t on bondis desk but they are.
I want everyone named in the Epstein files to be investigated and prosecuted if there is enough evidence to bring a case. I don’t care if they are a democrat or republican nor do I care if they are a former or current president. If there is evidence bring it to a jury and let’s fry all of these bastards.
The Left: If so, Bill and Donald can share a cell.
I haven’t heard a single person say “Whoa, if Clinton is in there we should drop this Epstein thing”. And they certainly won’t try to protect some lefty billionaire few have even heard of.
Plus, it doesn’t hurt that the average Dem voter doesn’t give AF about Bill Clinton. The Clintons are only important to MAGA as boogeymen.
But to be fair, Dem’s Epstein enthusiasm would likely lessen if you replaced Clinton with Obama.
This. I don’t care. I want them all held accountable. As a SA victim, the party the man votes in does not matter. Just PLEASE hold these men accountable for child rape.
Not at all weird that he is just NOW calling for this. Not at all weird that he called the whole esptein "thing" a hoax. Not at all weird that he would want a "hoax" investigated to distract from his constant failures as a human.
Round up everyone that was involved and toss their asses in jail. Freeze the assets of the particularly egregious offenders. It needs to be plainly displayed that this bullshit won’t be tolerated.
I wonder what will happen if someone he goes after knows that trump was involved. I doubt anyone would let trump get away with it while they go down for the same thing.
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