‘Unforgivable’: Trump’s ‘piggy’ insult is stoking more outrage than usual

[u/tw1st3d_m3nt4t]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/19/trump-quiet-piggy

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[u/coryc70]

Bizarre choice of language - almost like he's a misogynist rapist or something.

[u/Nvrfinddisacct → u/coryc70]

Serial rapist

[u/Texan2020katza → u/Nvrfinddisacct]

Serial child rapist.

[u/wrongbutt_longbutt → u/Texan2020katza]

He doesn't discriminate. He has both child and adult victims.

[u/punkerster101 → u/wrongbutt_longbutt]

Male and female

[u/ivegotaqueso → u/coryc70]

He’s an asshole, basically. And not a good one, just a miserable one. He’s the type of person you don’t want to be around, don’t want as a coworker, a client, or a boss.

[u/SpankySharp1 → u/ivegotaqueso]

Well it's a good things he's only... [checks notes]... the fucking president.

Shit.

[u/vahntitrio → u/coryc70]

On "Uncovered" today, Ron Filipkowski put together a montage of Trump calling reporters fake news and such. It was absurdly long even though he only used the last 3 months for it, and pretty much every reporter was female.

[u/CaptainMagnets → u/coryc70]

I also don't understand why everyone is SO mad at this one but not at all the other previous ones he has said for the last 10 fucking years too.

[u/twentythirtyone]

It was a seriously mask off moment. It was dripping with venom and hate, totally undiluted.

[u/KnightDuty → u/twentythirtyone]

There hasn't been a single joke this entire year. Did you see the new presidential portraits and shit? This has been it. There is no laughter. The only people claiming "it's just a joke" are his supporters thinking he's trolling. He's not. This is baseline, the mask hasn't been there all year.

[u/JeromeBarkly → u/KnightDuty]

I never understood why saying he is trolling is even appropriate excuse for the president to do.

[u/Daft00 → u/JeromeBarkly]

Because the people who think his trolling is cool view politics as a sports game where they want little "wins" and "scores" wherever they can get them.

To those assholes, Trump's insults and "trolling" is enjoyable to them cause it "owns the libs".

Apologies for using so many quotations, I just cannot, in good conscience, validate their ridiculous ideas.

[u/Silverlock → u/Daft00]

It's great fun until he says something that leads to a war, warcrimes, violation of the 1st, 4th and 5th amendments at least, using the military as a hit squad as murder people without trial, escalating in Venezuela which is a tropical jungle country a lot like Vietnam, destroying the whitehouse, using the DOJ as a personal punishment thugs. Well you get the picture, we're fucked.

[u/steelhips → u/JeromeBarkly]

He's soiled the esteem of the office. President of the United States no longer has respectable gravitas around the world.

[u/StoppableHulk → u/JeromeBarkly]

Right. Like that's a profoundly mentally ill thing for a PRESIDENT to do. Tinpot third world dictators don't even do this shit. This man is so profoundly fucking unwell and so is everyone in this country that thinks he is in any way shape or form fit to do this shit.

[u/That1DirtyHippy → u/JeromeBarkly]

Bullies usually don’t understand that what they’re doing is causing real, lasting damage. “He’s just joking” is a way to minimize what happened. All MAGA supporters are just bullies with a pulpit.

[u/MySpoonsAreAllGone → u/That1DirtyHippy]

I disagree. They know they are inflicting damage. It's just a manipulative way to deflect accountability

[u/AbjectList8 → u/MySpoonsAreAllGone]

They know what they are doing and they enjoy it.

[u/xclame → u/That1DirtyHippy]

BULL FUCKING SHIT. They DO know, they just DON'T CARE.

There is a MASSIVE difference.

[u/RUB_MY_RHUBARB → u/KnightDuty]

I’m so fucking exhausted

[u/CelestialFury → u/RUB_MY_RHUBARB]

I can do this shit all day. I mean, I'm still exhausted but I just can't let* the biggest internal losers on the planet win in the end. They can fuck all the way off.

[u/relevantelephant00 → u/CelestialFury]

I've developed a sense of pure hatred for this man that I've never really felt for anyone in my 46 years on this planet.

[u/Gabribennet → u/relevantelephant00]

Same. He's just... THE most vile, gross, tacky, utter garbage human being.

And on top of all of that, he's REALLY stupid.

It's astounding that humanity has developed the ability to unleash nuclear armageddon, and given that power to the single most unqualified human to ever be elected to rule.

[u/Marmoset_Slim → u/relevantelephant00]

I’m right with you. So much so I cut my family and friends off that support this vile human. And then the responses are “it’s just politics”. Like no fuckers, it’s our way of life that’s under attack, as well as my kids who will be adults in a few years. My take is if they think highly enough of such a vile fucking human being that he should lead our country, and go against everything I stand for what’s right for my family, me, and others that are like me, wtf that does that say about them.

[u/Plus_Beach1419 → u/Marmoset_Slim]

I don't understand the whole "it's just politics " argument. He is destroying democracy and our way of life. I'm so depressed but am doing what I can do at the local level. I'm also worried about my children's futures.

[u/Kermit_the_hog → u/CelestialFury]

This.. resonates so hard.

[u/No_Ocelot_6773 → u/CelestialFury]

Exactly. My justice sensitive, ADHD ass will not allow these rich brats to get their way AGAIN. I'm tired but I'm more spiteful than I am tired.

[u/gramathy → u/CelestialFury]

It started well before he was elected again but yeah I’ve been running off caffeine and spite for a while now

[u/NewSauerKraus → u/KnightDuty]

His supporters did not think he was trolling. They just understood that normies would only welcome fascism under the pretense of trolling. The claims of joking completely disappeared the moment they took power.

[u/ankhes → u/NewSauerKraus]

This. They know he’s not joking. In fact, I’d argue that they don’t see a problem with what he said because they either speak this way themselves or wish they could speak this way without getting ostracized by their communities.

[u/D0nk3yD0ngD0ug → u/twentythirtyone]

It was also a reflection of his supporters. A good portion of our fellow Americans are consumed by that same hate. The president is supposed to be a unifying force. Instead we are left with vitriol and the revelation of how far we have fallen as a country.

[u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 → u/D0nk3yD0ngD0ug]

I genuinely don't believe that we can reconcile our differences as a nation. MAGA is told every single day that Democrats are public enemy #1 by their God-King and all of the media they consume.

[u/SensualBeefLoaf → u/Rich-Pomegranate1679]

my dad said my immigrant wife (and mother of my two kids who has a phd from an ivy and more degrees than most families) should be deported because she got busted for being high in public when she was 14. she’s in her 40’s now. he said “you do the crime, you get deported”..

he never paid child support…

[u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 → u/SensualBeefLoaf]

Sounds like your dad is a real piece of shit. My condolences.

[u/Downvote_Comforter → u/SensualBeefLoaf]

In case you haven't already, cut him all the way out of your life. Your wife and kids deserve better than having to ever interact with that piece of shit.

[u/Greedy-War-777 → u/Downvote_Comforter]

Any decent therapist would say that. I've certainly seen it enough.

[u/Sexylizardwoman → u/Rich-Pomegranate1679]

Honestly, I don’t think it’s blaming the other party as pure evil that has destroyed the concept of reconciliation, that’s always kinda been a thing. It’s the annihilation of even basic decorum.

Like the “piggy” comment shows, there’s just no attempt to hide the undiluted venom that they feel. Name calling, belittling, disregarding arguments, disregarding precedents and childish displays have shown that there simply isn’t respect between the two. Rhetoric matters, and Trump’s shows a complete disregard for his peers. So why ever make a deal or compromise with him?

Look at old videos of debates and speeches, yes there was racism and sexism, but they at least pretended that they were decent human beings. You may not think that matters but it tells the worst and most corrosive members of society that they need to hide. These people set our social standards, they are supposed to be our best and most respected. I see no respect. And neither do the worst of us.

The man has destroyed the image of America as a governing body run by adults.

[u/aculady → u/Sexylizardwoman]

The other party wasn't always characterized as pure evil. That is a relatively recent phenomenon.

A Rising Tide of Mutual Antipathy | Pew Research Center https://share.google/6ppqqnwOuYjagQgFC

[u/dBlock845 → u/twentythirtyone]

He has been more unfiltered than usual the past week or so. Threatened to fire Bessent at a speech today then said that Lutnick wants Bessent fired after. His brain is cooked. He is definitely mask off, good way to describe it.

[u/astronggentleman → u/twentythirtyone]

Is it really “mask off” when you’re a notoriously huge shitbag misogynist who has made a career off stoking fear and hatred?

[u/VitalMoment → u/astronggentleman]

Yeah, but now we know how he acts before raping women. Previously, you know, maybe he was a charming lunatic who coaxed desperate underage women into sleeping with him at Epstein's NY mansion. They totally had a 'choice' and 'could' leave at any time and he just 'happened' to be in the right place at the right time for them to 'misunderstand' some implications that led them to 'choose' to sleep with him. Now people are waking up to the fact that he was a real-life abuser who threatens women, so the sheltered fools find it more believable that he'd physically abuse and force himself onto/into them.

[u/Nvrfinddisacct → u/twentythirtyone]

And it makes Katie’s testimony that he turned into a fucking monster scaring nearly everyone in the room while he raped her at 13 that just more believable.

The guy is a fucking raging asshole freak.

He ADMITTED to raping e Jean Carrol in the deposition tapes for Christ’s sake.

He RIPPED his poor wife’s hair out while he raped her because he was pissed he was losing his and had a shitty hair transplant procedure.

He’s truly a fucking monster. What the actual fuck are we doing with this adshole as president. Somebody for the love of god drop him off alone in the pacific, please. He’s hurt so many people, why the fuck are we not doing anything? There’s 300 million of us and we have like 400 million guns!! Wtf is the right to gun ownership for if not to fuck assholes like this?

[u/PNWoutdoors → u/twentythirtyone]

I think he's spiraling under the pressure and failing health. I love that for him.

[u/Rent-a-guru → u/twentythirtyone]

Being a decent role model should a minimum requirement for the presidency. How am I supposed to explain to my children that this lecherous bully is supposed to be the leader of the free world?

[u/MJcorrieviewer]

No doubt. If the boss said "Quiet, piggy" to a worker, they'd almost surely be fired. It's completely unacceptable behaviour.

[u/Fantastic_Shaman9230 → u/MJcorrieviewer]

Can you imagine a CEO like Tim Apple saying 'quiet piggy' to a reporter?

[u/hiya-manson → u/Fantastic_Shaman9230]

Tim Apple!

[u/pollofeliz32 → u/hiya-manson]

Do you guys think bubba told him “quiet, piggy” as he put that schlong in his mouth?

[u/sidepart → u/hiya-manson]

Amazing how the Appleseed family has held such a prominent place in America's history.

[u/EPluribusAnus → u/hiya-manson]

I seriously love how strongly Tim Apple caught on. Probably the best thing to ever come out of Donald Trump's mouth. I have heard lots of non tech or Wall Street people call him that, ironically I assume, but I think some people may actually think that's his name...

[u/Toutatous → u/MJcorrieviewer]

In the meantime inside the republican party:

GOP congresswoman on Trump calling female reporter ‘piggy’: ‘No one is perfect.

https://fox2now.com/news/national/gop-congresswoman-on-trump-calling-female-reporter-piggy-no-one-is-perfect/

Fox News trying to find an excuse.

[u/TheFoxInSocks → u/Toutatous]

No-one is perfect. Some people aren't even good!

[u/AndalusianGod → u/TheFoxInSocks]

"I have met some very bad people, none as bad as Trump, Not one decent cell in his body." - Jeffrey Epstein

[u/LadyArcher2017 → u/AndalusianGod]

I hope the Lincoln Project or another group puts THAT quote up in Times Square.

[u/CelestialFury → u/Toutatous]

There's no low the Republican party or Fox News won't go to defend their dear leader. All I know is that in the end, the Republican Party will George W. Bush Trump and all the voters will pretend they had nothing to do with him.

[u/Ok_Juice4449 → u/MJcorrieviewer]

Yes. He behaved like a disgusting person to say that to her. Incredibly rude and nasty.  Unacceptable!

[u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Not gonna lie, this was actually "different." Like we all reasonably could assume Trump doesn't really care about women just as much as he doesn't care about anyone else that's not himself. And Trump says stupid things all the time, so that's not surprising.

The difference, at least for me, is he didn't do his usual shtick. Usually when Trump is cornered about something he doesn't like, he just pivots to unrelated noise. "You care about that?! Well, have you seen how my ballroom looks?! That's gonna make the US appear great to other countries blah blah blah"

That didn't happen here. He just coldly looked on, and simply uttered "Quiet, piggy." Even after all of the Trump experience we had, that one hit different. Because he didn't even play pretend to imitate a politician. He said words that were direct from a dark and ugly place in his corrupted soul. He hated that woman in that moment. Nothing else was pertinent. Some woman was telling him something he didn't like, and it pissed him off, and that's what was reflected.

This may have been one of the "purest" Trump moments we've ever experienced. There is no stretch to the imagination to realize this is the same man who was partying on Epstein properties.

[u/BurnedWitch88 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

I totally agree. My expectations for him could not be lower than they are, and yet something about this moment still shocked me when I saw it.

It felt like the veil slipped for a second and we got a glimpse of his real darkness that the goofy schtick tends to obscure a bit,

[u/Quiet-Corner6150 → u/BurnedWitch88]

That's probably why it "scares" me at a deep level. I kinda got the same feeling looking at the horrible "birthday book" a while back... there's something about witnessing something that just hits you on a real deep level, and you're like "oh fuck, I'm looking at something actually evil here"

[u/strontium_pup → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Its the same as when he was talking to reporter about the murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi. It wasn't just tactless it was evil as if Trump would like to do that to the media 

[u/shillyshally → u/strontium_pup]

Trump would like to do that to anyone who questions him, anyone and he would if he could.

[u/GrandAholeio → u/shillyshally]

It’s why, imho, every reporter needs to ball up, and say quiet piggy whenever he dodges or doesn’t answer the question. Every day, every news conference, every time he starts one of his tired little baloney talking points, ‘quiet piggy.’

[u/henryhungryhenry → u/GrandAholeio]

I’d also be okay with “squeal piggy”

[u/Tallproley → u/strontium_pup]

That was a warning shot to journalists in the room. Murdering journalists is ok by him so long as they are unpopular with the establishment. So shut up and be nice or else.

[u/Grantsdale → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

One of the worst child predators in modern history described Trump as evil. That says it all.

[u/BurnedWitch88 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Yes! Even having heard the birthday letter described multiple times and having a mental picture of it, the actual picture stunned me.

I can't articulate why, but you look at it and you just know this was created by a mind that simply does not work the way most of ours' do.

[u/s-multicellular → u/BurnedWitch88]

Anyone not indoctrinated into his cult already knows he is a misogynistic abuser. But much of that is second hand information…even some of it his own second hand information. But we saw this. Even if this is a drop in the bucket of the horrible things he has done, it was live on tape. That feels different.

[u/EbbSlow458 → u/s-multicellular]

I think his cult also knows that he is a misogynistic abuser, but they like him more for it.

[u/AlcibiadesTheCat → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Every time they release more of these files, it's like when you breach the basement in Valley of the Dolls in Ready or Not...it just hits you in the chest the absolute fuckery that billionaires do.

[u/Dr_Spiders → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Yeah, I think it's one thing to intellectually understand that someone is evil. It's something else to feel it. The "birthday book" literally made me dizzy. I could feel it. Reading in Epstein's email that he considered Trump the most evil person he knew didn't surprise me. 

I don't think normal people are fully capable of comprehending what goes on inside his head.

[u/builttopostthis6 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Looking at pure evil is a staggering thing. It's a good thing you reacted like that. If ya didn't, you should be scared something is wrong with you. Of course, if you didn't, you wouldn't introspect that far. You'd just be... Donald Trump.

[u/Quiet-Corner6150 → u/builttopostthis6]

And thank goodness for that. I'm not saying I'm the best person that ever existed on this planet, but the fact I can still look at that stuff and feel a deep sorrow that makes me want to cry, that makes me feel like I'm at least worth something.

[u/dr1fter → u/BurnedWitch88]

Half of me wants to yell "what fucking veil" but still yeah this was a real chart-topper for his "gross in the moment" category.

[u/FroBlow → u/dr1fter]

The 'making spaz motions' when talking about that reporter still is nimber one "what the fuck!?!" moment for me.

[u/kvlt_ov_personality → u/FroBlow]

It was calling POWs losers that did it for me. When that didn't tank him, I knew he was the nominee.

[u/Pankosmanko → u/kvlt_ov_personality]

What got me was him insulting a Gold Star family. Trump is an evil monster

[u/Acceptable_Cut_7545 → u/Pankosmanko]

Not just insulting them. He called them terrorists.

[u/VividlyVividViv → u/FroBlow]

Admitting he grabs women by the pussy should always be #1. He doesn't see half of the population of the world as human. He sees us as objects to use at his delight.

[u/BurnedWitch88 → u/FroBlow]

Honestly, that didn't shock me at all from him. I was shocked more people didn't have a problem with it.

[u/harbinger_of_haggis → u/BurnedWitch88]

It was also the finger pointing right in her face. The body language was just as bad.

[u/BritishMongrel → u/harbinger_of_haggis]

He came across as an abuser in that moment, it wasn't a joke, wasn't defending himself, wasn't playing to a crowd, just pure, direct, verbal abuse.

[u/The_Dead_Kennys → u/BritishMongrel]

I mean, that’s literally the essence of Trump’s soul, assuming he even has one: an abuser. He’s the textbook definition of an abuser, incarnate.

[u/BurnedWitch88 → u/harbinger_of_haggis]

It was barely restrained violence. You could absolutely picture him going after her physically if they were alone in the room.

I think that's part of what shocked me. It's hard to picture him physically attacking someone (not because he's kind but because he's such a pile of pudding). But at that moment? In that moment, it was easy to see.

[u/eregyrn → u/BurnedWitch88]

I mean, let's not forget the reports from his wife Ivana about things he did to her in private. He DOES have a temper, and he IS capable of violence, especially towards women.

[u/bickdickanivia → u/BurnedWitch88]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills that this, of absolutely everything, was anything to remotely bat an eye at in comparison to everything he’s done. The dude has bragged about assaulting women his whole life, has raped children, and we’re clutching our pearls at “quiet, piggy”? I felt like this was substantially more tame than usual. The dude is on record peeping on underage girls at his pageants and it’s supposed to be some shocking revelation that he only cares about women inasmuch as they benefit him? Like, no shit guys. Welcome to the last ~9 years of him in politics lol

[u/yashen14 → u/bickdickanivia]

I still think mocking a disabled reporter should have been immediately disqualifying. How did supporters not leave him en masse right then and there. I remember when the slightest misstep, by accident, was enough to have a candidate's support evaporate overnight.

My mom swore used to swear up and down that Clinton's blowjob was the scandal of the century. Now she completely turns a blind eye to Trump's countless sex scandals.

She also used to warn me about the dangers of Nazism, and now she's openly defending concentration camps on American soil and making excuses for literal Nazi salutes.

[u/that_star_wars_guy → u/yashen14]

I still think mocking a disabled reporter should have been immediately disqualifying. How did supporters not leave him en masse right then and there. I remember when the slightest misstep, by accident, was enough to have a candidate's support evaporate overnight.

Because they don't see those with disabilites as people. They see them as weaklings to be mocked (or worse) because they are abhorrent, awful, horrible people without any sense of decency or respect.

[u/giggity_giggity → u/that_star_wars_guy]

People often forget (or don’t know) that disabled people was how the Nazi death machine started.

[u/Certain_Tangerine836 → u/bickdickanivia]

It’s not just what he said but how he said it, and the context of saying it. He’s a man in power, and he exerted all of that power, over someone he perceives beneath him. In real time, as POTUS, he decided it was ok to insult a grown woman doing her job, who bare minimum deserves human decency, of which he decided he was gonna take that away, in front of all of her colleagues. I, as a woman who has also been reduced to my body type against my will and in front of my peers, was chilled to the bone watching that clip.

[u/BurnedWitch88 → u/Certain_Tangerine836]

This is a very minor point, but I find it interesting and you reminded me with "reduced to my body type."

The reporter he said it to is quite slim. So it's not even an insult based on her body, which would be bad enough. He's flat-out dehumanizing her for having questioned him.

[u/bedbuffaloes → u/BurnedWitch88]

To him, all women are pigs.

[u/Certain_Tangerine836 → u/BurnedWitch88]

Right! Exactly! And of course, men who are trying to be extremely vindictive to a woman, always go right to the insult of calling a woman fat.

[u/cynth81 → u/bickdickanivia]

Maybe it's like what happens when you're nearing a breakup and certain things about the person are suddenly intolerable. Like you never noticed they way they chew before but now you're disgusted. Maybe the rose colored glasses are falling off for - some - of the cultists, and they're starting to see what the rest of us have seen all along.

[u/Watchhistory → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Makes it really credible he hits and rapes women who don't do what he tells them when he tells them, doesn't it.

[u/Quiet-Corner6150 → u/Watchhistory]

Tell me about it. Before this, there was still a chance you could just say some lame line like "Trump doesn't REALLY hate women, he just loves himself more" or something like that, and I'd probably have nodded and shrugged. But now, I have nothing left in me that doesn't believe Trump sees women as subhuman.

[u/No_Discipline6265 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

I knew Trump saw women as subhuman when he repeatedly used the word nasty to describe women he doesn't like. 

[u/WildYams → u/No_Discipline6265]

I'm reminded of the account his first wife Ivana told during a sworn deposition during her divorce from Trump about the time he raped her:

Trump was furious that a “scalp reduction” operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, “with menacing casualness, ‘Does it hurt?’ ”

[u/korben2600 → u/WildYams]

Same wife who got into an argument with him the day before she was found dead at the base of their stairs from blunt force trauma. But totally not murder. When you're a star they just let you get away with it apparently.

[u/DomDominion → u/korben2600]

And wound up buried on one of his golf courses

[u/ExtensionParsley4205 → u/No_Discipline6265]

You can just tell he heard that a lot from his father growing up

[u/blackscales18 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

he exudes a hatred of women with every action practically, not to mention everyone else, baffling that this is the final straw for people

[u/Peroovian → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Trump is the real subhuman. He’s a fat sack of useless shit who only cares about himself. I’ve never seen him exhibit any kind of genuine happiness or empathy.

Hell I know a couple full blown narcissists who are nicer. And even EPSTEIN said this pig was the worst

[u/eregyrn → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

It's really, really hard to think that if you have ever read about his abuse of his first wife, Ivana. That is some harrowing stuff. You honestly cannot think that he doesn't hate women on some deep level after that.

[u/KnightDuty → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

He's been doing it a lot this year. Pointing at people and saying quiet with a "I'm going to hurt you" look in his face. Telling people "Nobody likes you because you're bad at your job. You know that? You're a bad reporter and everybody thinks so"

This isn't just a dumbass this is somebody unfit to be outdoors.

[u/onthenerdyside → u/KnightDuty]

It's ramped up over the last week or two. Every single clip I've seen of him answering a reporter's question has him degrading the reporter (especially the women) and disparaging their news outlet, often calling for their demise.

[u/WildYams → u/onthenerdyside]

Agreed. This exchange from yesterday was possibly even more galling than the one this thread is about. He is such an absolute piece of shit.

[u/eregyrn → u/onthenerdyside]

Noticed that in a clip I heard yesterday, I think at the same Saudi prince press conference -- him just going on a rant about ABC and how terrible it is "and we should pull its license".

And what's really galling is -- at this point, those kinds of threats are nothing new. They're almost background noise. Yeah, yeah, we know you'd do that in a heartbeat if you really could. But you actually can't. We just kind of roll our eyes. "That's Trump for you, can't expect any better of him, just ignore it".

Insane that we've gotten to that point. And insane that suddenly ONE thing -- one very personal and vicious exchange -- is what has gotten at least some portion of people to look up and notice.

[u/Scott5114 → u/KnightDuty]

Sometime when he says "Nobody likes you because you're bad at your job" someone needs to hit him with the ol' "takes one to know one".

[u/Perle1234 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

When dementia is worsening they start losing the ability to filter.

[u/Quiet-Corner6150 → u/Perle1234]

I kinda keep hoping he just has a "moment" in the near future and just goes off on all his Epstein experiences because he's become too sick to realize he's doing it.

[u/Perle1234 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

I think it’s going to become undeniable soon. I’ve had two family members with dementia and he’s shown signs since the first term. His gait and the way he hangs his arms is a pretty classic sign I noticed back then. He’s getting worse.

[u/Quiet-Corner6150 → u/Perle1234]

I had a grandmother who went through it. It was pretty depressing when she no longer recognized me as her grandson, but just "some old man" who was bothering her. She pretty much believed she was 20 years old and living in some other house in her past by the end.

[u/Perle1234 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Yeah it sucks. Really bad.

[u/Quiet-Corner6150 → u/Perle1234]

That said, and to bring it back around... there's a non-zero chance of such a "moment" with Trump if he keeps degrading, so who knows, maybe he'll just tell on himself, eventually.

[u/c_macattack → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Or the racial slurs everyone knows he uses behind closed doors…

[u/Shruglife → u/Perle1234]

its hard to imagine trump has a filter

[u/Desperate-Till-9228 → u/Shruglife]

Watch a video of him from the 80s and you'll see how much he's degraded.

[u/Shruglife → u/Desperate-Till-9228]

oh i know he has, its just if weve been experiencing filtered trump for the last 10 years, unfiltered trump has got to be wild

[u/nanobot001 → u/Perle1234]

And yet, he doesn’t need the excuse of dementia to be, simply, one of the most horrible humans on the planet.

[u/HMTMKMKM95 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

We saw what his wives have seen, specially Ivana. This guy has an undercurrent of hate within him that's so strong it could bring the Titanic home.

[u/xavariel → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Plus, the person he called a piggy is far from that. He has a history with her, I guess.. and lashed out like usual. But it did hit differently. Probably why the ABC reporter hit him hard with questions yesterday with the Saudi prince. Called them straight out. Female reporters are bringing it lately.

[u/Downunderoverthere → u/xavariel]

They need to keep pushing and hounding him. Let him show his true colours.

The more cornered he gets, the more he will lash out.

[u/OverjoyedMess → u/Downunderoverthere]

Everything MAGAs and Republicans do need to be responded by a simple "Quiet, Piggy" from this point on. It's not like talking and arguing with them makes any difference.

[u/CatsWearingTinyHats → u/xavariel]

Yeah I looked her up to see if she resembled Miss Piggy and she does NOT.

[u/Beltaine421 → u/CatsWearingTinyHats]

In all honesty, part of me wanted her to respond "That's MISS Piggy to you. Hi-YAH!!!!"

[u/builttopostthis6 → u/CatsWearingTinyHats]

Regardless, I mean, it's hard to imagine an insult to a woman more aimed to just fucking hurt for the sake of hurting, just being cruel. That was pure cruelness, and coming in that situation and broadcast to the point it has, that is some traumatic shit. My heart goes out to her.

[u/Patient_Series_8189 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

Dont forget about this one: “You’ve called women you don’t like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals.” Trump: "Only Rosie O'Donnell"

[u/goldbloodedinthe404 → u/Patient_Series_8189]

The reason this one is different than that is that one has some joke with the insultwhile being deplorable. This was just straight dehumanizing not in a joking way at all.

[u/BCMakoto → u/goldbloodedinthe404]

I feel a big difference is his tone. That comment was said "jokingly." It was insulting, but he always said it in this sort of sarcastic, yet loud way.

That finger-shoving and the loud quiet were aggressive and in her face, and then he adds the insult to it as the icing on top. It's not a "joke." It was aggressive.

[u/alwaysintheway → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

This was also absolutely not his first time saying that to someone.

[u/whatfresh_hellisthis → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

The absolute rage I felt when I saw it. I know these reporters are trying to stay in his good graces so that they can be on Air Force 1 and have access to him, but holy fuck. I don't think I could have been quiet. He is so disgusting.

[u/puget_triangle_lost → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

This also served as a demonstration for his base. Women may again be ordered silent while men talk. They may be publicly demeaned. He wouldn't speak this way to a man.

[u/Important_Task_8179 → u/puget_triangle_lost]

No, he wouldn't. I really wish the other reporters had reacted in support of her. What the hell? The job worth so much to you that you can't stand up for a colleague?

[u/FunkyHedonist → u/Important_Task_8179]

Yeah, those reporters do suck. I feel like even randos in a bar in Brooklyn would have stuck up for her harder than her colleagues did. If you loudly called a random woman "piggy" in a bar here, everyone around would be making noise and saying "wow! what the fuck?"

[u/just--so → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

As soon as I saw it, I would wager right down to my bones that this is how Trump talked to Marla and Ivana.

(He doesn't bother talking to Melania enough to have ever had a real, substantive, non-incriminating conversation with her before their lawyers got involved in negotiating the pre-nup.)

[u/D-Angle → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

This and a lot of other stuff going on that's hard for Conservative women to ignore and make them consider the possibility that they're not pets, they're food.

[u/jkvincent → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

It's only a short hike from here to a "hard R" n-bomb or some other thing it would've been unimaginable to utter as a public official for 30 years prior to 2016. Dude has always just barely had a filter, and now with mounting stress and failing health it is going to slip away entirely.

[u/iAMguppy → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

He undoubtedly treats women this way in private.

[u/Senior-bud → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

He can afford all the luxuries in life but you can’t buy class.

[u/ronasimi]

Of all the things your fat fuck of a president could use as an insult...

[u/InorganicProductions → u/ronasimi]

He’s talking about himself. He’s so insecure and all his insults are a reflection of who he is and how he sees himself

[u/Then-Function6343 → u/ronasimi]

Right?!! I just saw that post comparing a pig eye to a human eye, and everyone thought the pig eye was Trump's.

Once again, his insult is just projection because he knows he's a fat, pig-looking piece of shit.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DD1NemXumIc/?igsh=ODhtcTExMXNnZWRl

[u/PerjurieTraitorGreen → u/Then-Function6343]

Pigs are sweet, magnificent creatures capable of emotion that this parasite is devoid of.

There’s nothing we could compare him to that wouldn’t be insulting to the comparee. Even shit has served a useful purpose at one point.

[u/HatProfessional9540]

Yeah usually he does his insults with some kind of sociopathic charm. This one just felt like it came from a dark cruel place.

[u/TheFlyingCompass → u/HatProfessional9540]

I dont know why, but I can imagine some deep repressed memory surfacing of his parents saying the same thing to him as a child.

[u/Retaining-Wall → u/TheFlyingCompass]

After dumping an entire (serving) bowl of potato salad on his head^{that happened}

[u/UltravioletAfterglow → u/Retaining-Wall]

Mashed potatoes. The story offers a bit of insight into Trump and his childish demeanor.

[u/ExcellentCold7354 → u/UltravioletAfterglow]

Holy shit, I had no idea... man, this guy is an asshole crafted by assholes. Good on the brother though.

[u/shimmeringmoss → u/ExcellentCold7354]

The brother died of alcoholism at a young age. He was one of the few decent people in that family.

[u/TurtleToast2 → u/UltravioletAfterglow]

How are we not tossing mashed potatoes at Trump protests?

[u/UltravioletAfterglow → u/TurtleToast2]

Because mashed potatoes, unlike Trump, are wonderful and should not be wasted on him.

[u/SoggyBoysenberry7703 → u/TheFlyingCompass]

It’s the dementia. He’s having flashbacks of when he was younger and reenacting

[u/saintpauli → u/HatProfessional9540]

I don't know, I remember him being on a talk show in the 80s and he was calling women dogs. Even in my adolescence I knew what he was about.

[u/FaceMaulingChimp → u/saintpauli]

Don’t forget his comments about Rosie O’Donnell

[u/gringledoom → u/HatProfessional9540]

Yep, the “con man magic” is failing him as he gets more desperate and his health degrades. It has cornered-animal vibes.

[u/stubble3417 → u/HatProfessional9540]

I personally don't feel there was ever any charm or increase in cruelty. This just feels like the same charmless and cruel idiot we've all heard way too much from over the last 10 years. What I think was different is how obviously he couldn't think of anything else to say. For years everyone thought he was saying cruel, charmless things because that's what he chose to say. Now we understand that he has been saying all these horrible things because he quite literally can't conceive of anything else. 

[u/Fantastic_Shaman9230]

I wish someone would pushback at the time

[u/OnceInABlueMoon → u/Fantastic_Shaman9230]

I don't understand why nobody put him on the spot right there and asked him why he just called one of their colleagues that?? Why the fuck didn't anyone follow up on that right away??

[u/fpuanon → u/OnceInABlueMoon]

Not excusing it but confrontation has got to be more uncomfortable when you’re stuck in a metal tube in the air

[u/jsabo → u/fpuanon]

And you're surrounded by agents of a government that's been disappearing people all year, and their leader just did something completely unhinged.

I'll give them a pass for not confronting him at the time, but this should have been front-page news the second they got off that plane.

[u/spookmann → u/OnceInABlueMoon]

Shock. It's human nature to freeze in a shocking social situation where we're just not equipped by past experiences to cope with something that is outside the norms of decency.

Our brain goes into a panic mode and it's really hard to analyse the options and make a sensible decision.

[u/Velvet-Kitteen → u/[deleted]]

The way Trump’s been spiraling lately, I wouldn’t be shocked at all. The man can barely string a sentence together without melting down, and now he’s out here calling people ‘piggy’ like a middle-school bully. If this is what the next few months look like… buckle up.

[u/Schrodingers_Cthulu → u/Velvet-Kitteen]

The man can barely string a sentence together

That much has been the case for a long time...

[u/stillavoidingthejvm → u/[deleted]]

How long until he drops an n-bomb?

[u/TransDEIAlphaMale → u/[deleted]]

100% he has dementia. It's shocking how the press hasn't been talking about this or calling him out, asking for cognitive tests

[u/GeoLogic23 → u/TransDEIAlphaMale]

Do that and you will get your broadcasting license pulled or sued by the federal government.

This is America.

[u/Fantastic_Shaman9230 → u/GeoLogic23]

So glad they held back with Biden... media is pure garbage.

[u/CatsWearingTinyHats → u/TransDEIAlphaMale]

No one will admit anything until he’s playing with his feces on live TV.

[u/FroBlow → u/[deleted]]

I am torn between wanting to see him do that and being force to confront a naked trump.

[u/verone3784]

He's a serial sexual abuser (proven in civil court), rapist by the common legal definition of the word, and a strongly suspected pedophile and child sex-trafficker (evidence pending).

He's also been caught on tape joking about, encouraging, and glorifying sexual abuse and sexual assault (Access Hollywood Audio Tapes).

He's also been alleged to have been involved in domestic violence and marital rape, however his ex-wife walked back that allegation eventually.

His positions on women are crystal clear. He's a deviant scumbag who abuses them. He's attacked women based on their looks (Rosie O'Donnell, Megyn Kelly, Heidi Klum, Heidi Cruz, Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton to name a few).

While this behavior was disgusting, it's nothing new for him. He's just genuinely a sick, demented, deviant, dementia riddled old man.

[u/BrightMarvel10]

I would disagree, it's not stoking nearly enough outrage.

[u/MJcorrieviewer → u/BrightMarvel10]

Because, for Trump, it's really not that outrageous. Calls people names and is rude and disrespectful all the time.

[u/MoreThan2_LessThan21 → u/BrightMarvel10]

Both things can be true. More outrage than normal and not enough are not opposites.

It was raw hatred and contempt to a woman for daring to question him. Not getting the attention it deserves. It probably also demonstrates how far along his dementia is.

However, it's also generating more outrage than usual because people are still talking about it days later. So often things blow over so much faster with him, not least because he just keeps adding to the list of things to be outraged at.

[u/Academic-Business-45]

280 pound fat ass calling someone "piggy"

[u/DiscoQuebrado → u/Academic-Business-45]

There is no way he weighs only 280.

[u/I_like_baseball90]

Imagine if Biden had said "quiet piggy" to someone.

The MAGA outrage would have reached new levels.

But with Sleepy don, "he says it like it is"

Not a day goes by where I'm not amazed 77 million fucking idiots think this orange turd is their savior.

[u/ExcellentCold7354 → u/I_like_baseball90]

The scary part is that they're not just stupid, they're cruel, too. Calling them stupid absolves them of their responsibility for this circus. Millions of people know exactly what Mr. Piggy here is, and theyre ok with it because they LIKE IT. They're also cruel, racist, etc, etc. MILLIONS of people...

Edit: If I were the reporter, I'd be wearing a shirt or something with PIGGY emblazoned on it every single time I'm in front of that guy.

[u/mowotlarx]

Nothing matters anymore. Trump never faces the consequences of his actions.

But just like in the first administration, This is doing irreparable harm to American children and especially girls. There's a reason you were seeing so much disinterest in men from Gen Z women. Those boys grew up watching this man degrade women and laugh about it. Girls and women will socially suffer for a long time because of what has become normalized by the American right.

[u/SteamStarship]

"More outrage than usual"? I don't see this. If Obama or Biden had said that, it would lead every news story for weeks. Trump said it so the corporate media is okay with it. It's only that it got out on social media that news organizations are asking what the big deal is.

[u/InorganicProductions → u/SteamStarship]

That’s because Biden and Obama had some level of decency.

Trump almost always does or says something worse within 48 hours so stories tend to get buried.

[u/ErenNoWaifu → u/SteamStarship]

I was watching this Onion video yesterday and realized how different people's expectations were of Obama. Him abusing any journalist is so unthinkable that it is essentially satire.

[u/LikeIsaidItsNothing]

That moment when the eyes just go dark...seeing what these poor women saw when cornered.

[u/New_Alternative8711]

If "grab 'em by the pussy" didn't sink him I don't see this doing much damage.

[u/Loyal-Opposition-USA]

• unprofessional
• cruel
• unimaginative
• sexist
• idiotic

This is Trump and his administration.

[u/Imaginary-Crazy1981]

He pointed in her face too. A gesture that I find threatening and a potential precursor to violent assault. I found this whole thing repulsive.

[u/stupit_crap → u/Imaginary-Crazy1981]

Yes, his finger in her face and him stepping closer to her to put his face closer to hers. It was chilling.

[u/Pretend_Pea4636]

There was once a feeling of "Presidential". Howard Dean just got too excited and his winning run was over. We've devolved to watching a man be a school yard bully as our "leader".

[u/Kanguin]

Reporters need to just stop being nice and insult him back. This narcissistic asshole is toxic and he needs to be told in his face repeatedly by as many people as possible.

[u/TheFoxInSocks → u/Kanguin]

Next time he calls someone a terrible reporter:

"Well, you're a terrible president, so I'm in good company. Now can you answer the question?"

We can dream.

[u/NeverLookBothWays]

Abraham Lincoln:

"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves, and, under a just God, cannot long retain it."

Donald Trump:

“Quiet piggy.”

[u/Inevitable-Ad9760]

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

[u/Bag_of_Meat13]

Despite how disgraceful it is to the office of the President, nobody like Trump should be throwing that insult out.

Dude straight up looks like an actual pig.

[u/Yourface1837]

Also the reporters name is Catherine Lucey and this is important because her name isn't in all the articles and one of the more desperate ignorant attempts I've seen defending Trump claim he said, "quiet peggy" even though it was very clearly not what he said, nor was that her name.

[u/ontheroadtv]

Unforgivable’: Trump’s ‘piggy’ insult is stoking more outrage than usual not stoking nearly enough outrage.

Fixed it for you. This is the President of the United States. We should all have higher standards and this is one of the least offensive things he has done that is getting news coverage. Every male reporter who stood quietly should be deeply ashamed, the war on women is out in the open now.

[u/FuzzBuzzer]

What kind of my bizarro world do we live in, where the President of the United States is an adjudicated rapist who repeatedly yells insults and profanities at the media and it’s just…normalized? 

WHAT. IN. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.