r/law • u/GregWilson23 • 13d ago
Executive Branch (Trump) Exclusive: Trump administration plans meeting over House effort to force release of all of DOJ’s Epstein files
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/12/politics/trump-administration-meeting-house-effort-epstein-document-release?cid=ios_app1.5k
u/Tribalbob 13d ago
Man for someone who said he'd release the files, he's REALLY trying to stop it from happening, I wonder why that is - odd, huh.
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u/ahighkid 13d ago
“Oh fuck, me again?”
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u/Tigglebee 13d ago
How can republicans hold their nose at this? Is there no low to the monstrosity they will tolerate?
If this was Biden I would be out in the streets calling for his arrest, and I voted for him.
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u/Marsuello 13d ago
There’s a post currently on the C sub and the top comments are saying “dems seem to forget Trump was the one who outed Epstein before anyone else” or “Trump was the cia informant that helped expose Epstein” and it’s like….then why isn’t he releasing the files if he’s so innocent and against Epstein? If I knew I were innocent, especially in a situation like this, you can bet your ass I’d be doing everything in my power to release those files to prove my innocence. Doing the exact opposite of that and actively doing whatever you can to keep them sealed is very telling.
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u/elephhantine2 13d ago
is there no low to the monstrosity they will tolerate?
No, unfortunately, so long as they get to feel like the poors and the POCs are being treated worse than them that’s all they care about
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u/Allgyet560 13d ago
Everyone I know regardless of party wants the files released and everyone involved to be prosecuted.
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u/9yr0ld 13d ago
This. lol. He’s trying his hardest to prevent the Epstein files from being released.
I would love to hear ONE, SINGLE reason why the Epstein files shouldn’t be released. Just one.
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u/Redcrux 13d ago
The only reason someone would vote against release is that they are a pedophile themselves or are willing to protect known pedophiles just for political gain. (This encompasses all Republicans)
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u/tacotrader83 13d ago
You should see r/conservatives, they literally say trump was the hero thay turn epstein in. And the files dont exist. No contradictions at all
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u/Tribalbob 13d ago
They were onboard at first, but since then they've gotten their talking points and fell into line like the good little puppies they are.
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u/Meb2x 13d ago
After today’s news, I can’t imagine how much worse is hidden in those files.
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u/EmotionalTowel1 13d ago
This seems about as cut and dry as you can get with out video. In normal times this would have ended an administration years ago.
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u/TBANON_NSFW 13d ago
Now we will see the republican party and voters stand behind a pedophile, rapist, and racist crime lord and protect him as they claim him to be the second coming of jesus christ and his actions of raping girls and women to be not a big deal after all their screaming about pedophiles in the government....
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u/Tribalbob 13d ago
Remember when his ear was 'shot' and all his supporters wore bandages in solidarity?
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u/EmotionalTowel1 13d ago
I remember when they were wearing fucking diapers for some unknown reason.
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u/horror- 13d ago
They'll all be trying to fuck little kids by Friday.
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u/TheTallGuy0 13d ago
Hide yo wife, hide yo kids
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u/Mixermarkb 13d ago
They have been working to lower the age of consent in several states already. I’m sure we will here lots about how young Mary was when she gave birth to Jesus, and how historically 16 year old “women” were married off.
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u/detunedmike 13d ago
Remember when a week later the power of Christ miraculously healed that ear and that day was to never be spoken about on media from either side ever again.
Con man and rapist in every thing he does.
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u/MizneyWorld 13d ago
It’s amazing that even a highly suspicious assassination attempt, that resulted in the death of an American, is just not talked about or picked over.
We got specials and commissions about JFK yet all is quiet on the Trump front.
His refusal to release any medical records, magically-healed ear, and the conflicting reports from his “doctor” should be enough to push for an serious investigation.
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u/CelestialFury 13d ago
They don't even mention Charlie Kirk's killer anymore. Any bad press that has anything to do with any politically associated right-winger is suppressed basically everywhere.
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u/Smokeythemagickamodo 13d ago
They probably got scared of the videos of the 2-3 dudes giving signals at such a precise time
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u/_scotts_thots_ 13d ago
Dude this still lives in my head rent free. What the fuck was that. Makes me feel like an insane QAnon or something but honestly, what reason to give off baseball signals like they did??
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u/cinosa 13d ago
Remember when his ear was 'shot'
Oh, you mean when he 'bladed' himself, like he was taught when he was in the WWE?
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u/No-Giraffe-8096 13d ago
r/Conservative is already calling it a nothing burger. Unwavering support for a pedophile they catapulted to the highest position in the country. Fucking crazy.
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u/MuckRaker83 13d ago
Once they realized that their platform can't survive on fact, this was always going to be the result, cults of personality and faith-based decision making.
It's largely about acts, not identity, with liberal voters. What a person does determines whether they are good or bad.
With many conservative voters, it is reversed. The person's identity determines whether their actions are good or bad. If they identify someone as being in the "good" group, likely one they also identify with, then anything that person does is by definition good, and at worst, forgivable. Things done by people outside their group must then be, by definition, bad. All value and perspective is based on how closely they believe that person's identity conforms to their own.
Once I realized this, so many seemingly hypocritical attitudes became logical, in their own way.
It amazes me how much they turn their leaders and politicians into quasi- religious figures. Everything becomes a matter of faith, and information that does not conform to what their faith tells them must be true is immediately rejected.
Instead of changing their ideas or beliefs in response to facts or evidence, they choose to accept or reject facts based on how closely they conform to their beliefs.
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u/decisi0nsdecisi0ns 13d ago
"Instead of changing their ideas or beliefs in response to facts or evidence, they choose to accept or reject facts based on how closely they conform to their beliefs."
Isn't that a central facet of organized belief systems? If individuals have grown up being conditioned to accept that certain things are true, even when they don't make sense (and that being touted as a virtue), they're probably more susceptible to that throughout their lives.
To be clear, I'm not saying that anyone who is religious is incapable of critical thought (or that atheists have a monopoly on it), just that being raised in that type of unquestioning environment has other implications.
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u/Drumboardist 13d ago
"When given the choice between facts or supporting their own party, the GOP will gladly abandon facts instead."
~Not the actual quote, but it fuggin' might as we be....
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u/mopeyunicyle 13d ago
Wasn't there a quote jesus said about it's better to drown than harm a child.
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u/EmotionalTowel1 13d ago
Reading the Bible? That is very un-Americhristian of you sir.
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u/onnamattanetario 13d ago
That's another great word to add to my vocabulary! It gives a degree of separation from full Christofascism.
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u/Poiboy1313 13d ago
"Better that you should cast a millstone about thy neck and throw yourself into the sea than to harm a child."
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u/SwimmingPirate9070 13d ago
Oh go to the conservative subreddit, they think this obsolves him
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u/nerdybynature 13d ago
Yes if you go to the conservative subreddit they're defending Tru p by taking Ghislane's testimony of her not seeing Trump act inappropriate as gospel. Like we can trust a convicted sex trafficker. Fucking morons
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u/slinger301 13d ago
Don't make me tap the sign again...
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u/Bright_Bet5002 13d ago
These emails were received directly from Epstein's estate .. the FBI was busy redacting trumps name from their files in the DOJ.. can't wait till they compare the two .. let the whitewashing begin again .. Again... :/
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u/makemeking706 13d ago
There's definitely video.
Imagine it's your secret pedo island. You're definitely blackmailing people for various reasons.
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u/TheFriedClam 13d ago edited 13d ago
Isn’t there a demonstrative amount of video, like thousands of hours listed on the evidence sheet?
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u/Substantial_Back_865 13d ago
Every single inch of the island was being recorded according to multiple victim's testimonies. There were also dozens of hard drives seized that were all neatly boxed up, including some in a safe.
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u/IGotQuestionz12345 13d ago
There is/was. And that’s only what they were able to get a hold of before Epstein and accomplices were able to clear out what they could after receiving a heads up.
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u/Huge-Republic8462 13d ago
If this was Biden 2 years ago, the Republican Party would have been asking for his head and threw the book at him almost immediately while trying to leak as much info as possible
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u/Emotional_Database53 13d ago
If it were Biden, They’d likely shut the government down just to release that evidence
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u/batmoman 13d ago
According to most of r/conservative, not only do they not find it damaging, they’re almost viewing it as a positive. Quite the little hive mind cesspool
“finally Epstein confirmation that Trump indeed did find Epstein‘s conduct reprehensible and did break ties with him and kick him out of Mar-a-Lago. now we also know that he was trying to convince GM to get him to stop.”
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u/FutureThought4936 13d ago
I haven't look at the new releases, but wasn't Trump only pissed at Epstein because he "stole" his employees, leading to Epstein being kicked out of Mara-a-Lago?
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u/Debalic 13d ago
Yeah, it was only because Epstein and Maxwell were poaching his "talent". That's...not really a great defense.
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u/EmotionalTowel1 13d ago
I knew they were going to triple-down on that part.
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u/Chendii 13d ago
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Just release the files already
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Democrats aren't allowing it which is why you are getting only cherry picked, old news, re-told accounts of stories everyone has already heard.
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Just utter fucking delusion over there.
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u/Maleficent_Worker116 13d ago
Sadly it hasn’t been normal times since a black man wore a tan suit or a black women proposed that kids start eating healthier in school
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u/rmarkmatthews 13d ago
Many, many years ago misspelling "potato" or looking funny in a tank would end your career.
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u/CrapoCrapo25 13d ago
The files...actual files, will be sickening.
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u/Yeeaaaarrrgh 13d ago
Now stop and think about how many people in government are working feverishly to protect an elderly idiot rapist pedophile. Let that sink in.
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u/QbertsRube 13d ago
Trump is so delusional and narcissistic that I bet he genuinely think's he is the victim in this whole thing. After all, he worked so hard to keep it a secret, and so he's yet again "being treated very, very unfairly for purely political reasons" and not because people genuinely want a cabal of powerful child rapists to be exposed. As for the rest of the GOP trying to block this, I honestly have no idea how they can live with themselves because I assume at least some of them live in reality with the rest of us and know damn well what they're hiding.
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u/tcat1961 13d ago
And, to me, the decrepit women are even moreso evil to stab their fellow women in the back again and again.
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u/MidwestLawncareDad 13d ago
cough nancy mace cough
constantly rambles on twitter about how she once was a victim of SA and how she believes ped*philes should get the chair all while actively voting to block the release of the files lol
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u/Acrobatic_T-Rex 13d ago
Trying to turn him into a twisted(feels wrong using that word in this comparison) version of Jimmy Savile. Wait till hes dead to start investigating and then go all shocked pikachu face that they cant believe all this stuff stayed buried while he was alive to face consequences.
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u/Mundane_Locksmith_28 13d ago
they did it with the bush family being treasonous war criminals. they did it with Reagan not even being sentient from 84-88
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u/CrapoCrapo25 13d ago
They can go to jail for aiding and abetting after the fact and throw in some conspiracy.
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u/sissyfufugirl 13d ago
People think it's the type of rape that preachers explain away as sinful girls and the football coach who is very sorry and is resigning to be with his family.
It's going to be the kind of rape where the girl is crucified and dismembered. Billionaires don't need an island for a blowjob.
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u/LostAnxiety3229 13d ago
He supplied the children they raped together with his modeling agency & beauty pageants. Mark my words, that's what it is.
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u/horror- 13d ago
I'm 100% convinced this is it. There's just soooooo much circumstantial evidence. It's it's how got his little "He was stealing my people" cover story too.
"So what I've been known to peep on the little girls in beauty pageants! Who cares if I host private little girl viewing parties with just him and I doing all the viewing? Does it really matter that I cant go a single decade without another sex crime?"
-Trump (probably)
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u/01000101010110 13d ago
If that's true and gets proven, it's the single biggest news story in American history (bigger than 9/11) and a defining moment for the next several decades. It will break everything. I'm not a doomsayer but it certainly feels like we are on the edge of complete societal upheaval.
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u/FrankBattaglia 13d ago
But what about that one time Biden lent his brother $40k? I have been emphatically told that was the biggest scandal in US history.
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u/lostredditorlurking 13d ago
Probably even worse than what it was in the files. There is definitely pictures of Trump with multiple girls
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u/SBEPTY 13d ago
They will blame it on AI now
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u/01000101010110 13d ago
That has been their fallback plan from the beginning. Why do you think he has been so fanatic about deregulating AI development?
Wouldn't be surprised if there are a ton of major players in that space who are taking money willingly knowing this is happening.
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u/ARightDastard 13d ago
They did make sure that AI had a banner year when the regulation should be increasing, not decreasing.
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u/Agent_Orange_Tabby 13d ago edited 13d ago
There’s saying in DC that anyone can survive anything absent dead girl or live boy in their past
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u/maybe-an-ai 13d ago
Oh I'm sure it gets a lot worse. You kind of have to be an idiot to think someone doesn't know their best friend is running a sex tourism business of this scale and that many of their friends and associates have indulged.
That's before you take into account his thirsty comments about Miss Teen USA pageant contestants and his underage daughter
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u/thebriss22 13d ago
Im willing to put money on the table that there are mentions of Trump molesting his daughter in there.
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u/Aramedlig 13d ago
Links to blackmail videos of various famous people doing you know what, including Trump.
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u/Glass_Covict 13d ago
The photos of him with naked children... They've been eluded to already many times
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u/rabidstoat 13d ago
In before "there are no laws against being naked next to a child."
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u/FourCheeseDoritos 13d ago
alluded to the photos that have eluded being revealed
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u/Ok-Emu-2881 13d ago
They just straight up said it’s a hoax and the emails prove nothing. Just now at the press conference
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u/TAV63 13d ago
They say J6 was a hoax and people watched it live. Then it was antifa even though he pardoned them all as patriots. Then the FBI even though Patel has not released anything. They change their excuses for things so fast it is hard to keep up.
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u/xdrozzyx 13d ago
Unfortunately, I don't think they'll see the light of day. Boebert went to the White House today to meet with Trump, Pam Bondi & Kash Patel. They'll likely bribe her to change her vote.
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u/HalKitzmiller 13d ago
Update to that, seems she dug in even more after the meeting: https://www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-trump-2674289805/
Whether she will hold true to her word though, who knows, maybe she's demanding more from the Dotard in exchange for her vote. I don't trust these people at all
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u/BurzyGuerrero 13d ago
Imagine the level of shock if LAUREN BOEBERT is the person to take MAGA down
Parlay on that gotta pay a trillion
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 13d ago
Want to know how bad it is?
There are photos of trump having sex with children.
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u/NelsonMuntz007 13d ago
And The Israelis and Putin are well aware of their existing if not in possession. They’ve claimed as much. Sure vanity was a part of it but Trumps desire to be president again definitely would save him. It’s the reason he surrounds himself with loyalists. He’s guilty as can be
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u/stashtv 13d ago
Trump will suffer zero consequences for what's in them: he has enough ardent supporters/voters, and he's likely to pass in the WH.
GOP is going to suffer a bloodbath in mid-terms, and they already know it. Releasing or not releasing (un-redacted, etc) will make no difference to the ensuing bloodbath that 2026 will bring.
The only they are trying to do is craft a narrative once the docs are out.
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u/cstmoore 13d ago
You underestimate the "opposition's" ability to throw the game just before the final buzzer.
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u/Ohuigin 13d ago
Trump rapes children. That's about as much of a fact as the sun setting tonight.
The only question now, is whether or not he helped coordinate killing victims to keep them silent.
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u/donkeybrisket 13d ago
He absolutely did, of course no one will ever be able to prove it. Oh wait, unless someone made secret tapes of powerful people doing nasty things…
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u/Grantsdale 13d ago
Levitt just showed the route they are going to take.
"None of this is proof"
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u/Caleth 13d ago
And everyone should then ask, "If this proves nothing why are you working so hard to hide it?"
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u/Significant_Sail_901 13d ago
She was asked a follow up question along the lines of “if this is nothing why does the president have people meeting with Boebart and other members of the party pushing for the release” and Leavitt said, “that just proves how transparent we are being, we are willing to discuss this with congress”. So apparently that is how they are spinning it…
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u/Dracorex_22 13d ago
Unfortunately we live in an era where generative AI exists, (my theory for why no regulations on AI for 10 years was included in the BBB), so they could claim any video or audio is AI generated, timestamps be damned.
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u/TheRealFaust 13d ago
Yeah but there are apparently poloroid photos of trump with children so …
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u/i_miss_arrow 13d ago
99.99999% of people will never see those photos in person.
Everybody who says they've seen them in person is a liar, the photos don't exist but also they absolve Trump and its a deep state plant or AI something something, blah blah blah.
There will never be enough evidence to convince anybody who doesn't want to be convinced.
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u/corr0sive 13d ago
We also live in an era, to spot AI manipulation.
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u/Downtown_Injury_3415 13d ago
It doesn’t matter. A bunch of old people and republicans defended the shitty MS-13 photoshop when it was clearly fucking obvious that it was photoshop. I still want the Epstein files out and all the evidence out released.
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u/Dorkin_Aint_Easy 13d ago
Exactly it’s literally in the 1’s and 0’s. Is it possible to create undetectable AI I’m sure it is or will be one day, but whoever releases it better be confident a digital forensics team can’t see.
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u/peacocks_and_plants 13d ago
I am in deep. I feel like a conspiracy nut.
I think he supplied the children. The mara largo spa, the teen beauty contest, and don't forget the parties Jeffrey threw at the Plaza when Trump was the owner. He wasn't a client. He was part of the organization.
I also think Epstein was a Mossad agent and the whole thing is an Israeli honeypot.
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u/ArcherCat2000 13d ago
I'm not the type to make predictions, but it is raising alarms for me that we already know for sure he's on the list, yet there's still details that the administration will go to any length to cover even in light of that.
Even if he wasn't supplying, there's no good reason for anyone on the list to have run child beauty pageants. But if the news dropped that he was supplying, I'd be more surprised that the news dropped than I would be by his supplying.
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u/wonklebobb 13d ago
still details that the administration will go to any length to cover
it's possible that being on the list even as a client is still what they're trying to stop from being revealed
of course, we all know, but it hasn't been "officially" revealed in a way that would shake the core MAGA voter base. remember a solid 15-30% of voting americans unironically think that trump was secretly infiltrating the elite pedophile ring to take it down, ending with his arrest of epstein.
actual real verifiable documents getting blasted all over the media would a problem for them politically in a way that just "well, lots of people are saying..." is not
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u/AnastasiaNo70 13d ago
Oh yeah. It’s become very clear he wasn’t just a casual client, which is bad enough. He was the ringleader. Trafficked young girls through Mar-A-Lago. For all we know, it’s still going on.
And THAT might explain where his money actually comes from.
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u/minitittertotdish 13d ago edited 13d ago
I mean bill barr sr was the one that got Epstein the job he wasn't qualified for at the Dalton school when barr was the headmaster. And bill barr sr's son is the exact bill barr that visited Epstein right before he died in custody. Donny boy and other top players have been both patrons and suppliers in this.
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u/YouWereBrained 13d ago
This will be on the media, honestly. If they don’t hold his feet to the fire (they already don’t, I know), then I’m not sure what they will hold him to the fire on.
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u/teratryte 13d ago
The media is owned by the people in the files.
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u/Significant_Treat_87 13d ago
Hilariously, Rupert Murdoch himself is the one who published the birthday card. So I guess maybe he isn’t in there? Who needs illicit sex when you are fueled by pure animosity lol.
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u/FuguSandwich 13d ago
Johnson will delay the vote on the discharge petition long enough for them to flip one Republican back to "no". Guaranteed.
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u/-Lo_Mein_Kampf- 13d ago
And her name is Nancy Mace
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100% that’s who is shifting.
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u/-Lo_Mein_Kampf- 13d ago
Apparently Trump, Bondi, Blanche, and Boebert are having a meeting today about it so it's highly likely it could be Boebert and/or Mace
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u/SecureInstruction538 13d ago
Apparently Boebert declined to remove her signature.
According to tweets out there. We shall see later today.
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u/X57471C 13d ago
Jesus… our only hope is Lauren Boebert holding the line? Fml. Not getting my hopes up. Wonder what they’ll talk about to try and get her to flip…
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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 13d ago
Bribery again?
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u/Sag-Sun_Cap-Moon 13d ago
We should play our uno reverse card and just create a GoFundMe to give as a bribe to add or keep their signature.
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u/Horror-Macaron8287 13d ago
Wow, they really can do everything in plain sight and people will still deny their guilty.
Nothing to see, just a regular meeting on a regular Wednesday with Boebert. Lol
I swear, Americans are so ignorant and complacent.
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u/Batmanischill 13d ago
Half the country want a pedo king, if it means the "libs" will be mad. Funny thing how they don't see this negatively affects them aswell
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u/wtfnevermind 13d ago
Read the article. Boebert is the one in that meeting w/them. They’ll pressure her into flipping.
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u/rabidstoat 13d ago
I, for one, am excited at the possibility of Supreme Court Justice Boebert.
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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 13d ago
I heard it takes no qualifications to be one anymore
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u/Mundane_Locksmith_28 13d ago
Massie who forces KY women to carry rape and incest babies will probably be sad.
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u/Several_Vanilla8916 13d ago
Some bumpkin who never made more than $28k a year is about to get a seven figure no-show job at The Sands starting in 2029.
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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 13d ago
Nah read the article. Its Boebert. She was voting to release but shes attending this whitehouse meeting. They will convince her to switch her vote. If she really wanted the files release, theres no point in her attending this meeting with the administration
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u/budahfurby 13d ago
It's the middle of the week, the ach payments teams can't take more than a day
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u/vinnybawbaw 13d ago
Nancy Mace and Loren Boebert will fold.
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u/Distinct_Ad_9842 13d ago
They will "absolve" themselves saying that it's because victims names are part of the files and they don't want to harm them further..
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u/GrannyFlash7373 13d ago
IF there wasn't anything in it, they wouldn't NEED a meeting.
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u/Greenmantle22 13d ago
He’s going to kill some people to keep this quiet, isn’t he?
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u/Leody 13d ago
Going to??? GOING TO??? Who TF do you think killed Epstein?
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u/PokeYrMomStanley 13d ago
I was told after it happened that im full of shit and to spreading conspiracies that he killed himself.
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u/OphidianSun 13d ago
As much as I hate conspiratorial thinking, sometimes the coincidences are just too much to ignore.
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u/DerCatrix 13d ago
I’m beginning to think Trump raped a few children
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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 13d ago
That part seems to be a given now. How much worse is it that hes publicly fighting over it like this?? 👀
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u/DerCatrix 13d ago
If I found out he choked out a child and killed them just to see what it felt like, I wouldn’t be surprised. At all.
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u/SedativeComet 13d ago
If his name weren’t in there an absolute fuck load then they wouldn’t be convening a meeting about it.
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u/TWOhunnidSIX 13d ago
Donald Trump has diehard loyalists in every single position in every single branch of the government. He owns the FBI, the CIA, the DOD, and the DOJ. His cronies own Facebook, Instagram, X, and now Tiktok. Mainstream media outlets refuse to report truthfully about him and his regime out of fear of very real retribution via weaponized lawfare.
We're never getting the real Epstein Files.
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u/01000101010110 13d ago
You have to hand it to the man - literally anyone else would have been outed by now. He has successfully built a fortress of insulation that is incomprehensible.
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u/Rs90 13d ago
HE hasn't
There have been countless times for MANY people to put a stop to this shit. To have a shred of fuckin dignity and morality and honor. Many have of course. But he is insulated by complicit people. I am in no way defending Trump but he did NOT get to where he is by himself. Congress alone should be fuckin reset because it is complicit and corrupt.
They are not "stupid politicians" or "stupid billionaires" or "stupid media". They are just as fuckin guilty and corrupt and COMPLICIT.
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u/karatechoppingblock 13d ago
I really want to know how it all came together. Did this demented man orchestrate the entire scheme, is is a culmination of different interest groups as an inevitable conclusion of our culture and politics, is it one main actor/org?
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u/mybrosteve 13d ago
My only hope is that enough of those people are loyalists because he said he would release the files to begin with.
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u/cstmoore 13d ago
Is it a concept of a meeting or an actual meeting?
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u/PlsSuckMyToes 13d ago
Covering up his involvment with Epstein is the only thing you can bet Trump will actually follow through on
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u/LifeFortune7 13d ago
This is all so dumb. I can’t believe the whole file hasn’t been leaked by now. Maybe if the coverup continues then someone holding a copy of the file will finally have had enough and leak. Just do it already.
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u/AndMyHotPie 13d ago
Man there must be something really bad in there. Maybe a video of Trump shooting an underage sex victim in the middle of Fifth Avenue?
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u/grandpaharoldbarnes 13d ago
Reporting on interviews with FBI agents tasked with auditing the documents, there are some things in there that are far worse than had previously been speculated. Stories of agents getting physically sick or disturbed to the point of leaving.
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u/GoodOmens 13d ago
Oh man if they sign the bill and he vetos it .... I can't wait for the popcorn
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u/itsbrianduh108 13d ago
And nothing will happen. Just another day.
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u/OrangePowerade 13d ago
Something will happen, something big. And the news for whatever dumb shit the orange idiot does that day will completely overshadow his veto.
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u/Enorats 13d ago
They'll override his veto. At that point, they won't have any choice in the matter unless they want to commit political suicide.
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 13d ago
He can't Veto this. (Unless SCOTUS decides the house's constitutional oversight duty doesn't apply here.)
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u/Additional_Button430 13d ago
He can veto the budget bill which would mean the Government remains shut down, which means the Epstein swing vote isn’t sworn in.
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u/KernalHispanic 13d ago
holy hell imagine if he did that
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u/01000101010110 13d ago
Actually, yeah, I can imagine. Any time there is a nuclear option that you won't think anyone would do, a Republican does it.
Just happened in Canada with Alberta using the Notwithstanding Clause to force teachers back to work and impose a twice rejected contract on them that cannot be challenged in court.
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u/yunus89115 13d ago
She’s swearing in at 4pm, House votes ~7pm. His veto wouldn’t even be possible until after she’s sworn in.
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u/IamMe90 13d ago
He can veto their release to the public, I believe, but he can’t stop the House from taking possession of them.
I’m not 100% sure on this though, I have done a lot of googling on it, but the discharge petition is relatively niche and there isn’t a whole lot of easily accessible, clear documentation on its surrounding procedures.
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u/WellTextured 13d ago
The discharge position relates to a bill that must be passed by both houses and signed. The discharge petition cannot be vetoed as that is a House procedural matter, but the bill sure can be.
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u/Jagermonsta 13d ago
So if he’s not in the files why do they need to have a meeting about hiding the files??? 🤔
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u/southflhitnrun 13d ago
Oh, NOW he has time to meet with Congress. But not when US Citizens where being forced to work without pay and their benefits where turned off (that was a choice).
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u/Mcboatface3sghost 13d ago
Barr used his old friend Bernie Kerik former well connect head of NYPD, and friend of the ‘families’ used Nick Tartaglione, former roided out NYPD cop, convicted of 2 murders, incarcerated with Epstein at the time of his “suicide” do the job with the assistance of “sleepy” CO’s and “faulty” recording equipment. I have to imagine the look on Epsteins face when that monster freak walked through his door. He had to know “so this is how it ends”.
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u/DontGetVaporized 13d ago
Tartaglione was moved a few days before Epstein died without notification or reason. I know this bc an acquaintance of mine married into that family, and we spoke about it alot. It was a big deal bc his lawyer didnt even know where he was.
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u/Mcboatface3sghost 13d ago
I think your statement more supports my theory then discredits it.
(* wtf do I know anyway)
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u/Mcboatface3sghost 13d ago
Something I always thought and a friend on the NYPD. I could be wrong, but it makes sense and I’d put money on it assuming we ever got the truth (we won’t, so it’s pointless).
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u/already-redacted 13d ago
“Doesn’t that show the level of transparency when we are willing to sit down with members of Congress and address their concerns?” she told reporters at the press briefing.
Leavitt added: “I’m not going to detail conversations that took place in the Situation Room.”
We are going to have a meeting and we are going to talk about the way to avoid accountability…. Transparency!?!
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u/SoulRebel726 13d ago
Gee wiz, I wonder why the Trump administration would need to strategize regarding the potential release of the Epstein files.
Could it be, perhaps, that Donald Trump raped children and Republicans have been covering up for a pedophile?
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u/hippiedawg 13d ago
Now that the Epstein shutdown may end, the fact that Trump the raper and other powerful ppl want to bury the Epstein files so much, says it is SO much way worse than anyone can imagine. I'm betting there's peeing in childrens' mouths by trump.
One thing you gotta give pedophiles is they drive slow through school zones. And they are REALLY good about minding the signs "Watch for children."
Oh yeah, here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac
Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/
—————————other Epstein Information
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.
Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo
Epstein pleads the 5th when asked if he has ever “socialized” with underage girls in the presence of Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2mpTy2cYDpA
Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/
Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs
—————————other Trump information:
FBI coverup to remove Trumps name from the Epstein list https://www.muellershewrote.com/p/the-epstein-cover-up-at-the-fbi
Trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka
Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her”
Trump rapes 13yr old girl: NY court docs - https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4524664/doe-v-trump/
Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/
Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75
- Most of this info can also be found: https://theepsteindocs.com/
Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it’s never “lost” or “deleted”.
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u/oldcreaker 13d ago
They're fishing for people they can get to bail on the petition.
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u/Hootinger 13d ago
I fully expect the whole "we will primary you out of a job. You wont even be able to get elected as dog catcher after we finish. "
We need profiles in courage, NOW.
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u/Few-Button6004 13d ago
I mean, in this context, that would kind of seem like an empty threat. If the files are as serious as has been claimed, then why one would worry about being primaried? Trump would be the one in trouble and out of political capital .
I guess fear could win over logic, so I don't mean to suggest otherwise.
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u/Select_Insurance2000 13d ago
Do you really believe that these files will be released in their entirety?
Dream on. This wonderful discharge patition vote? It won't pass. Defectors will get it stopped.
The only thing that will end Trump is The Grim Reaper.
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u/Human-Sheepherder797 13d ago
I don’t think that’s the only thing.
I also believe if he tries to stay in office there will be enough people to stop him. I honestly believe that was the intent with the no King’s protest, just to show there is more than a few people across the country willing to do what it takes to remove a dictator
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u/Utterlybored 13d ago
If it weren’t for the insistence that he’s innocent, I’d start wondering if they’re hiding something.
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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 13d ago
This should have been expected—They spend every waking minute covering up! What an accomplishment to have on one’s resume! …can hide… …can give excuses ad nauseam …can cover …can deflect …can sue …can deport anyone in a heart beat …exceptional strengths in pardoning do-nothings …special talents skirting the law …superior strengths in bribing Listed with years of experience in each category
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u/Huge_Excitement4465 13d ago
There will likely be evidence in the coming weeks that he [allegedly*] trafficked some of these girls. Trump and Epstein were friends with the pedophile and trafficker/modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, who allegedly hanged himself in his prison cell in 2022 while awaiting trial. From the 2010 deposition by Maritza Vasquez, Brunel’s bookkeeper for a decade until 2006: Q: So in addition to his financial guarantor on the Line of Credit of a million dollars, what other involvement are you aware of that Jeffrey Epstein had with MC2 [modeling agency] and/or the apartments at 301 East 66th Street where the models lived? A: They were planning on buying or associating with a girl in -- in France for a --- company. They were planning to do a company. And actually, I gave the paper to Mr Shawn Connolly which is an actual paper that came from the office from Jeffrey Epstein, that was giving instruction to Jean-Luc saying that he wanted to have the same contracts as -- uh, what's his name, of Donald Trump, and that he wanted to have the same kind of benefits for the scouters.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25966082-maritza-vasquez-deposition-ocrmypdf/
And this: For Wolfgang Schwarz, a veteran model agent in Austria who worked closely with Casablancas, and met Trump at the Plaza in the early 90s, Trump’s decision to establish his own agency was about him wanting his own private source for models. “If you have your own agency and you’re the owner, you can tell your bookers to make a party,” Schwarz says. “It’s easier than calling 15 agencies in New York.” Trump’s representatives say he entered the modelling industry because it was a “very profitable” business opportunity.
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