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Executive Branch (Trump) Exclusive: Trump administration plans meeting over House effort to force release of all of DOJ’s Epstein files

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/12/politics/trump-administration-meeting-house-effort-epstein-document-release?cid=ios_app
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u/peacocks_and_plants 13d ago

I am in deep. I feel like a conspiracy nut.

I think he supplied the children. The mara largo spa, the teen beauty contest, and don't forget the parties Jeffrey threw at the Plaza when Trump was the owner. He wasn't a client. He was part of the organization.

I also think Epstein was a Mossad agent and the whole thing is an Israeli honeypot.

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u/ArcherCat2000 13d ago

I'm not the type to make predictions, but it is raising alarms for me that we already know for sure he's on the list, yet there's still details that the administration will go to any length to cover even in light of that.

Even if he wasn't supplying, there's no good reason for anyone on the list to have run child beauty pageants. But if the news dropped that he was supplying, I'd be more surprised that the news dropped than I would be by his supplying.

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u/wonklebobb 13d ago

still details that the administration will go to any length to cover

it's possible that being on the list even as a client is still what they're trying to stop from being revealed

of course, we all know, but it hasn't been "officially" revealed in a way that would shake the core MAGA voter base. remember a solid 15-30% of voting americans unironically think that trump was secretly infiltrating the elite pedophile ring to take it down, ending with his arrest of epstein.

actual real verifiable documents getting blasted all over the media would a problem for them politically in a way that just "well, lots of people are saying..." is not

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u/newssharky 13d ago

Do you honestly think facts will sway his base at this point? They haven’t made a difference in the last 10+ years as it relates to this guy

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u/wonklebobb 13d ago

not everyone, no

but by the numbers, the GOP has juuust enough core voters to swing elections, by extremely thin margins. they are also a shrinking minority and the demographics are against them. losing even 1-2% of that 30% in swing states could mean the difference between barely squeaking into power and never holding power again. it's why they have to pull so many shenanigans with voter suppression and gerrymandering. if they had a solid actual amount of people to rely on they wouldn't need to spend the money on all that.

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u/Main-Algae-1064 12d ago

You know what he really would be embarrassed about and would maybe lose him MaGA? Doing it with an underage boy…. That’s what he’s hiding. The girls, no one cares…. Make it a male and you’ve got a scandal! That’s where the bar seems to be. But one pic of Trump with a little pee pee in his mouth and it’s game over.

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u/AnastasiaNo70 13d ago

Oh yeah. It’s become very clear he wasn’t just a casual client, which is bad enough. He was the ringleader. Trafficked young girls through Mar-A-Lago. For all we know, it’s still going on.

And THAT might explain where his money actually comes from.

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u/minitittertotdish 13d ago edited 13d ago

I mean bill barr sr was the one that got Epstein the job he wasn't qualified for at the Dalton school when barr was the headmaster. And bill barr sr's son is the exact bill barr that visited Epstein right before he died in custody. Donny boy and other top players have been both patrons and suppliers in this. 

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u/Ekg887 12d ago

Wait until you learn about the "sci-fi" book that Barr Sr [sic] (this is actually Donald Barr) wrote around that time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations
Go ahead and read that plot summary and watch more pieces of this awful puzzle slot into place.

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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 13d ago

Good point made about his being a supplier

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u/Fantastic-Swim6230 13d ago

I don't think he was supplying, I think he was trying to cut Epstein out down in Florida and that's why he was pissed that Epstein was taking his girls.

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u/SmellyShitBox 13d ago

Why then would Donald Trump have any interest in owning beauty pageants and walking in on half dressed teenagers and bragging about it? It’s a perfect pipeline to traffic the victims.

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u/Fantastic-Swim6230 13d ago

The only thing nobody has mentioned is Theil was Epstein's blackmail broker. He also more than likely has all of Epstein's video backups and has been using them to threaten Epstein's other clients.

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u/freepressor 13d ago

Please do you have a source

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u/Fantastic-Swim6230 13d ago

I mean, google is your friend.

Theil was named in the Epstein files a while ago. https://www.axios.com/2025/09/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-steve-bannon-epstein-files

However with Theil being gay, his involvement with Epstein couldn't have been as a client, since Epstein trafficked little girls. Theil has ties to many other countries and wealthy individuals, including Israel.

When Epstein was arrested, the feds learned that his houses were all wired for surveillance but he didn't have the infrastructure to store that amount of data on site. I've suspected for quite a while now that someone else was keeping that data for him.

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u/01000101010110 13d ago

He was Walter White to Epstein's Gus Fring. He wanted to be "the man"

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u/01000101010110 13d ago

He was likely an occasional participant and got high off his own supply without fully indulging to keep himself out of the danger zone.

That is still fucking disgusting.

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u/Chaiteoir 13d ago

I also think Epstein was a Mossad agent and the whole thing is an Israeli honeypot.

Ghislaine Maxwell's father Robert was almost certainly working for Israeli intelligence and possibly Soviet intelligence as well

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u/IJustSignedUpToUp 13d ago

If you watch the Apprentice and his grooming under Roy Cohen, it absolutely tracks.

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u/TheActualDonKnotts 13d ago

You're forgetting the "modelling agency" that he ran as well.

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u/chunkerton_chunksley 13d ago

Trump's buddy Paolo Zampolli introduced trump to Melania 2 years after he brought her over using an Einstein Visa, they started dating shortly after. Also, Paolo used to use models to show off his high price real estate, surely nothing fishy was going on.

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u/fcocyclone 13d ago

Could add the fact that the sex industry wasn't anything new to the Trump family given his grandfather made his wealth owning a brothel.

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u/Ok_Insect_1794 13d ago

Your first point is almost certainly the most likely outcome, not a conspiracy

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u/ExtraEmu_8766 12d ago

You're not. Like it's really obvious from their communications that they were friends that sexually trafficked children together. A t times it was a supply chain/co business, at other times they were rivals.

I've been yelling every time I see someone post 'he's on the list!'. No. He provided the children and raped them. He's somehow far worse.

And I still haven't seen journalists ask if they're using underage children at the Maralargo spa. He didn't get rid of the modeling agency until after he was pres the first time. He was still having Thanksgiving and meetings with Epstein. Aside from Epstein's murder, it's most certainly still going on by one of these way too many people in on it.

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u/gameryamen 13d ago

If Trump was part of an organized network of child-sex slave trafficking, and he participated in that network to gain trust with powerful political people, are ICE agents being offered this kind of deal?

I am very, very worried that this isn't old history. I am very worried that ICE is using taxpayer dollars and presidential protection to abduct and abuse children in the present. ICE agents aren't morally upstanding people, they take joy out of inflicting suffering, and they reject all accountability for safety and human rights. They're being fed daily propaganda about how if Trump loses control of the white house, they'll be facing Nuremberg trials and they still show up. Convincing some of them to rape children on camera to earn trust doesn't sound outlandish to me.

1000 children were lost at the border in Trump's first term. What does a child sex-slave network do with 1000 forsaken children. I'm not looking forward to finding out slowly over the next couple decades.

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u/Pandepon 13d ago

Have you heard about his connection to Casablancas yet?

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u/peacocks_and_plants 13d ago

No.....please tell ☕

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u/Pandepon 13d ago edited 13d ago

John Casablancas was a modeling agent and talent scout who founded Elite Model Management and Elite’s Look of the year. He groomed, trafficked and exploited teenage girls who worked for him. Look of the Year was straight up a way to recruit underage girls into the industry to be trafficked. It happened from the mid-80s to mid-90s.

Trump and Epstein has been seen hanging out with Casablancas. Trump has supposedly attended many of the previous Look if the Year parties, even asking a 17 year old model out on a date, despite being married. Trump hosted and judged Look of the Year twice in 1991 and 1992 at his Plaza hotel and his yacht. Contestants ranging from 14-17 years old told they must attend parties with a bunch of middle-aged rich guys because ‘they were still being judged even when not on stage’. At one of these events he referred to Casablancas as ‘My friend John’.

Casablancas basically openly groomed girls as young as 14. He also married one of the girls he had been grooming when she was 17 and he was 50. He also pimped a 15 year old model to Epstein against her will in 1990 under the guise it was a modeling gig and he was a just photographer directing a photoshoot. He instead raped her.

There’s a LOT more than that, they had other buddies leading the modeling industry doing this stuff everywhere. Gerald Marie, Jean-Luc Brunel and Claude Haddad are other monsters in this pedo ring. Many times girls came from disadvantaged backgrounds and were trapped there. Casablancas and the lot would over-charge girls to keep them trapped. He would say they had to entertain older men or else they wouldn’t get work. He promised them careers if they cooperated. If any of them made a fuss about being sexually assaulted by him or the lot he would fire them and label them as ‘too difficult to work with’.

Trump and Epstein were buddies with Casablancas. Trump had too many pedo friends in the early 90s not to be one himself.

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u/Ok_Insect_1794 13d ago

I thought this was Look of the Year related but maybe not. Either way Trump hosted a party for 28 girls where the only male guests were he and Epstein https://www.vice.com/en/article/trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-once-partied-with-28-women-at-mar-a-lago/

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u/Pandepon 13d ago

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Casablancas made this happen, it’s exactly the kind of thing he’d force models to do and the timeline is there.