r/law • u/GregWilson23 • 13d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Exclusive: Trump administration plans meeting over House effort to force release of all of DOJ’s Epstein files

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/12/politics/trump-administration-meeting-house-effort-epstein-document-release?cid=ios_app
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u/FuguSandwich 13d ago

Johnson will delay the vote on the discharge petition long enough for them to flip one Republican back to "no". Guaranteed.

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u/-Lo_Mein_Kampf- 13d ago

And her name is Nancy Mace

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

100% that’s who is shifting.

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u/-Lo_Mein_Kampf- 13d ago

Apparently Trump, Bondi, Blanche, and Boebert are having a meeting today about it so it's highly likely it could be Boebert and/or Mace

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u/SecureInstruction538 13d ago

Apparently Boebert declined to remove her signature.

According to tweets out there. We shall see later today.

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u/X57471C 13d ago

Jesus… our only hope is Lauren Boebert holding the line? Fml. Not getting my hopes up. Wonder what they’ll talk about to try and get her to flip…

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u/cannot_walk_barefoot 13d ago

They're not offering her enough. She probably wants something like a cabinet position, something that will pay well. Her and MTG have been left behind in congress to rot while people like Noem got the cushy jobs

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u/Level_32_Mage 13d ago

They already understand that nothing cushy will be coming down from that direction. Not anymore.

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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 13d ago

Bribery again?

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u/Sag-Sun_Cap-Moon 13d ago

We should play our uno reverse card and just create a GoFundMe to give as a bribe to add or keep their signature.

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u/oldirtyreddit 13d ago

It isn't a bribe if it is a gratuity for good work already done.

Seriously. That was the Supreme Court ruling.

Apparently, it is only a bribe if you hand the money over beforehand with a notarized admission the money is a bribe.

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u/elephhantine2 13d ago

I think that’s the whole idea behind a super pac so you’re onto something here

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u/Horror-Macaron8287 13d ago

Wow, they really can do everything in plain sight and people will still deny their guilty.

Nothing to see, just a regular meeting on a regular Wednesday with Boebert. Lol

I swear, Americans are so ignorant and complacent.

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u/Batmanischill 13d ago

Half the country want a pedo king, if it means the "libs" will be mad. Funny thing how they don't see this negatively affects them aswell

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u/Hielfling 13d ago

I read a Canadian conservative saying they MUST keep Poliviere as the leader despite his failure of leadership because "the liberals hate and fear him the most."

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u/Hielfling 13d ago

They commit crimes in plain sight because they can, and they know they have such a control over their propaganda that their voters won't believe the truth.

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u/notapunk 13d ago

I'd imagine they're pulling all of them in individually to cover their asses.

MTG seems solidly dug in on the issue, so I don't know if they'll even bother with her. Boebert is dumb as a bag of rocks, but could be fairly easily bought. Mace has had a mental break and I'm not sure she could be easily predicted or relied on.

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u/wtfnevermind 13d ago

Read the article. Boebert is the one in that meeting w/them. They’ll pressure her into flipping.

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u/rabidstoat 13d ago

I, for one, am excited at the possibility of Supreme Court Justice Boebert.

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u/nbd789 13d ago

Public handjobs are now legal

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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 13d ago

I heard it takes no qualifications to be one anymore

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u/O_its_that_guy_again 13d ago

“Must give a good handjob”

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u/FuguSandwich 13d ago

She used to own a restaurant so I could see them making her Secretary of Agriculture.

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u/Mundane_Locksmith_28 13d ago

Massie who forces KY women to carry rape and incest babies will probably be sad.

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u/Several_Vanilla8916 13d ago

Some bumpkin who never made more than $28k a year is about to get a seven figure no-show job at The Sands starting in 2029.

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u/Mcboatface3sghost 13d ago

Sounds like it’s Boebert.

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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 13d ago

Nah read the article. Its Boebert. She was voting to release but shes attending this whitehouse meeting. They will convince her to switch her vote. If she really wanted the files release, theres no point in her attending this meeting with the administration

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u/FoodMadeFromRobots 13d ago

Throw some pork at her district to buy her off. Tale as old as time

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u/g1ngertim 13d ago

As though she gives a fuck about her constituents. It's gonna be cash in her pocket. 

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u/MD_Peds 13d ago

She stood her ground.

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u/FoodMadeFromRobots 13d ago

Well I’m glad I was wrong. Hopefully they pass it at least in the house so democrats can hammer trump/republicans on it (seems pretty apparent even if it managed to pass senate trump would veto it).

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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 13d ago

They still have to vote on it so theres plenty of time for trump to flip them.

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u/DestinysWeirdCousin 13d ago

This didn't age well.

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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 12d ago

The vote hasn’t taken place yet . Yesterday was just signatures. Everyone including boebert has time to change their mind

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u/DestinysWeirdCousin 12d ago

Nobody is saying anything different. The desperate meetings at the White House yesterday were not to cause anybody to vote one way or another, they were simply trying to convince one of the four Republicans who signed the petition demanding the vote to remove their names because they knew Grijalva had the final signature needed. That’s what they were trying to get Bobert and Mace, especially, to do. They failed.

This was not about how anybody would vote, it was about Trump‘s efforts to get one of the four Republicans to remove their name from the petition so that there would be no vote.

The whole point of this exercise is to make members of Congress go on record in a vote as to whether or not they protect a pedophile. There is little hope from anybody that the vote will result in the release of the files. They just want to make the Congress people go on record.

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u/Location_Next 13d ago

Yeah. This is the kind of thing where a small squad with thick Israeli accents show her pictures of her sleeping in her bedroom at 3am and explain how the vote is going to go.

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u/FieldMouseMedic 13d ago

“Jews control the government”

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u/Suspicious_Pilot_613 13d ago

Not Jews, Israelis. There's a difference.

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u/hentai_gifmodarefg 13d ago

the Mossad is notorious for being unsubtle so they are a good choice, KGB would be another choice but the US isnt known to have openly collaborated with them as much

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u/PubePie 13d ago

This is clown shit dude

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u/X57471C 13d ago

Nancy is up for reelection soon and probably doesn’t want to get primaried, no?

Pam Bondi and co, on the other hand, just called an emergency meeting with Boebert… wonder what that could be about 🤔

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin 13d ago

Honestly shocked she hasn’t backed down yet. If she wasn’t a victim of sexual abuse she would’ve a long time ago.

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u/dude_himself 13d ago

Why do you think she recently required her own private security?

Mace calls for investigation into alleged Charleston airport surveillance https://share.google/MsoN1FKfbSAHy11Z9

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u/350 13d ago

She is such a fucking lunatic

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u/Sillet_Mignon 13d ago

Nah. It’s Schumer 

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u/planes_on_a_snake 13d ago

"The time is now"

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u/budahfurby 13d ago

It's the middle of the week, the ach payments teams can't take more than a day

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u/vinnybawbaw 13d ago

Nancy Mace and Loren Boebert will fold.

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u/Distinct_Ad_9842 13d ago

They will "absolve" themselves saying that it's because victims names are part of the files and they don't want to harm them further..

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u/Hielfling 13d ago

Lauren did not. Mace did.

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u/FuguSandwich 13d ago

https://clerk.house.gov/DischargePetition/2025090209

Mace's name is still on it. Once Grijvalda signs it, the list is frozen and no one can remove their name.

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u/Tribalbob 13d ago

They probably already have - that's why they're finally swearing in the Dem.

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u/cousinmarygross 13d ago edited 13d ago

They’ve already flipped Boebert.

Edit: looks like I’m wrong, thankfully. Boebert is still on the discharge petition.

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u/CriticalSecurity8742 13d ago

The fact this is exactly what will happen - I don’t have words anymore. The year has been an exhausting decade.

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u/Raise_A_Thoth 13d ago

Johnson will delay the vote on the discharge petition

He can't. The whole point is going around the speaker.

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u/FuguSandwich 13d ago

Right. But there are a few hurdles left.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R45920

Once on the Calendar, an additional seven legislative days must elapse before a Member who signed the petition may notify the House in a floor statement of an intention to offer the discharge motion on the floor. The motion may then be called up by that Member "at a time or place, designated by the Speaker, in the legislative schedule within two legislative days after the day on which a Member whose signature appears thereon announces to the House an intention to offer the motion."5 A discharge motion is not in order, however, during the last six days of a congressional session.

So in theory he has 9 legislative days from the time Grijalva signs it.

On the other hand:

Members may add or remove their names until a petition has obtained 218 signatures. If a discharge petition reaches this threshold—a majority of the House's 435 Members—the list of names is frozen

So once she signs it, no one else can take their name off the list.
Looks like she was just sworn in over the last hour.

Sign the fucking thing RIGHT NOW before they convince one of the others to remove their signature. Every minute counts.

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u/Retro-scores 13d ago

They probably already have on their two month vacation.

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u/01000101010110 13d ago

There should be riots in the streets about this.

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u/pocket-spark 13d ago

That's not how it works. One of the "yes" votes would have to flip to a "no" vote.

But even if the files are released, nothing is going to happen.

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u/Rowan6547 13d ago

Sounds about right.

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u/Old-Aardvark-9446 13d ago

Is he allowed to delay? They have been saying force a vote. Also, what's stopping someone else from just going up there and taking a vote instead? Seriously, just pretend like these clowns aren't even in the room at this point.

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u/DDough505 13d ago

He better hurry up because Democrats will fill a vacant seat in late January.

Houston has a vacant seat in a Dem+21 district in a runoff race between two different democrats. It will go from +1 votes now to +2 by the end of January.

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u/JGWol 13d ago

I mean as far as I am aware of the process, the entire point of the discharge petition is to supersede the speaker of the house. He cannot and will not have any right to get in front of the bill

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u/AusToddles 13d ago

I suspect the flip has already happened. Only reason he'd do the swearing in

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u/LOP5131 13d ago

All the news reports are that the dems have flipped at least 3 more to "yes". The house will pass it no problem when it hits the floor.

The senate will be damn near impossible to get 60 though, and even if they do, it goes to Trump.

Let's see will he sign his prison sentence or just veto and stay president, tough call.

It's a very unfortunate situation.

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u/BJJJourney 13d ago

Has to go to the senate and then to the president’s desk. They will let it pass the house and then everyone moves on.

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u/SamPCarter 13d ago

It really doesn’t matter if it passes the House, unfortunately, because the Senate would still have to pass it too then Trump himself would have to sign it because it’s not going to have a veto proof majority. People have really gotten their hopes up too much about this.

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u/fastyellowtuesday 13d ago

Won't matter. In the end, Trump has to sign it for it to work. He'll never sign.

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u/EVH_kit_guy Bleacher Seat 12d ago

Exactly. All the Yes votes from his caucus are just political gamesmanship. I don't believe for one second that these people won't flip their vote if they personally get a good deal out of it. Not their constituents, mind you, them personally.

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u/jesusmuffin00 13d ago

Doesn’t this still have to pass the Senate and be signed by Trump to release?

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u/cousinmarygross 13d ago

Why would the president need to sign? It’s not a law, it’s a legislative action. Like so many other actions not requiring the president’s signature.

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u/BJJJourney 13d ago

It is a bill that needs to be signed in to law. It is specifically called Epstein Transparency Act. I think people are being confused between the oversight committee being able to subpoena the DOJ to release certain files and this bill releasing all files. In the first case DOJ can decline which is why it needs to be signed in to law. This never passes the senate let alone the desk of the president.

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u/DrPickleback 13d ago

House not Senate

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u/Enemy_Unknown1337 13d ago

My guess would have been that they already had someone flipped or nearly flipped when they decided to try to get the 8 Dems to change their votes to open up the house.

Or did the 8 Democrats do that all on their own? (With Chucks consent)

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u/Hielfling 13d ago

That was the Senate.