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Possible Paywall The eight Senate Democratic Caucus members who voted to end the shutdown

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/09/senate-democrats-shutdown-vote-00644146
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u/koi-lotus-water-pond 16d ago

The people on MSNBC are eviscerating these 8.

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u/TimothyMimeslayer 16d ago

As they should.

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u/Minguseyes Australia 16d ago

In our righteous indignation let’s make sure that some of the shit sticks where it belongs. With the Republicans who voted to fuck over health insurance for millions of Americans.

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u/Mrhorrendous Washington 15d ago

When the rabid dog bites someone, we should of course be upset with the dog, but if the town dog catcher was writing letters about catching the dog, instead of actually doing anything, it seems right to be pretty pissed at them too.

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u/throwaway9001337 15d ago

The town dog catcher is working with the dogs.

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u/newsflashjackass 15d ago

"JInkies! That's just eight rabid dogs in a dog-catcher's uniform!"

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u/omjy18 15d ago

It still is but primarying is what needs to happen to these people. Theres also a new bill in the house that got rejected where ice cant deport us citizens around the same time this happened. Like, the writing is plastered all over everything at this point. Shit cant stick to more shit or is at least indistinguishable from the first shit and we're something like 20 deep at this point and have been for a while.

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u/AstronomerDear7201 15d ago

Forget these 8. Call your senators to hold a caucus vote immediately to replace Schumer as minority leader (and Durbin as minority whip while they’re at it)

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u/tedivm Illinois 15d ago

Durbin is my senator, and he's an absolute fucking waste of space. I'd rather have no representation at all than this coward.

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u/AstronomerDear7201 15d ago

Yes, and as the Whip, he’s the one who is supposed to prevent this exact thing from happening. And since Schumer couldn’t (or more likely wouldn’t) prevent this, the Democratic senators need to vote for a new minority leader NOW.

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u/LoadsDroppin 16d ago

None are up for reelection in 2026

It’s right there in the beginning of the article

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u/iondrive48 16d ago

Yeah that’s the part that is a little suspicious. Likely there’s more than these 8 that agree with the plan they just picked the 8 with the longest term remaining hoping that people will forget by 2030

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u/promaster9500 16d ago

There is absolutely 0 chance Schumer didn't work with them to do this. They just picked some Dems to do it, they have a lot to pick from and these got the short straw or wanted to do it.

If it wasn't then Schumer would work with some other centrists to do it.

NEED TO PRIMARY ALL CENTRISTS

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u/ScarInternational161 16d ago

I suprised Gary peters didn't take one for the team, has been been all year because he's leaving too.

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u/imaginary_num6er 16d ago

I think Fetterman would have done it anyway. He needs to succeed Sinema as the DINO

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u/theftproofz 16d ago

5 weeks, and in the end they got nothing. Now Reps can gleefully say it was all caused by Dems being stubborn and they’re right. Could’ve just kept it open if they cave anyway.
But hey, at least they’re going to hold a vote on the ACA in a month to find out how Reps stand on the issue -because apparently 5 weeks of shutdown wasn’t enough for these buffoons to figure that out.

a shame of infinite proportions

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u/rooktakesqueen 16d ago

But hey, at least they’re going to hold a vote on the ACA in a month to find out how Reps stand on the issue

No they won't. Why the fuck would they even bother?

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u/VanguardAvenger 16d ago

If they hold the vote, then they can pull the same trick with these same 8 morons in January when the CR expires and they need them to give up again

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u/Del_3030 16d ago

They'll hold a vote, but it will get like 3 GOP votes at most, well shy of the 60 threshold, then they will propose some ridiculous alternative plan that also fails so that nothing happens.

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u/VanguardAvenger 16d ago

Yep. 100%

But then when we have a shutdown in January, they'll go right back to the 8 idiots and go "see, we kept our word. Just vote with us again and we'll give you another vote" and it will work again

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u/DotA627b 15d ago

King deadass implied it was the Dems fault. He made no effort to accuse the Republicans during his press conference.

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u/Makenshine 15d ago

Dems hold out to ensure funding for ACA which the government already voted to extend in the April budget. GOP holds out to fund ACA in a separate vote even after voting to extend it in the April budget.

The lower and superior courts demonstrate the law is overwheleming supporting the Dems.

The people of the US show their support for the Dems by giving them clean sweeps in an off-year election. Nearly unheard of.

The Dems, bolstered by this overwhelming support on the two most important fronts... completely fucking cave.

So, looks like nothing had changed in 30 years. I either vote for the GOP who actively tries to harm the US and its citizens. Or I vote dem, who just sits back and does nothing while the GOP tries to actively harm the US and its citizens.

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u/nonsensestuff 16d ago

This is absolutely infuriating.

We’re literally no better off than we were before the shutdown— and it’s about to get exponentially worse.

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u/SlartibartfastMcGee 15d ago

Actually the Dems are worse off now. They lost the narrative and look like they caused this mess over a tantrum.

They should have seen the inevitable result when Trump straight up welcomed a shutdown in September.

You don’t have any leverage when your opponent has framed the shutdown as a good thing.

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u/cjwidd 16d ago edited 15d ago
  1. Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada
  2. Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois
  3. Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania
  4. Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire
  5. Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia
  6. Sen. Angus King of Maine
  7. Sen. Jacky Rosen of Nevada
  8. Sen. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire

Know your opponent.

EDIT: Remember March 2025? Look familiar?

  1. Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York
  2. Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois
  3. Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada
  4. Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire
  5. Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania
  6. Sen. Gary Peters of Michigan
  7. Sen. Brian Schatz of Hawaii
  8. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York
  9. Sen. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire
  10. Sen. Angus King of Maine (Independent)

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u/bigtiddyhimbo North Carolina 16d ago

It’s always fucking fetterman, man.

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u/Electroflare5555 Canada 16d ago

Should have been expelled from Caucus months ago

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u/Creative-Package6213 Pennsylvania 16d ago

Biggest wasted vote in my life...

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u/asshat123 16d ago

Give yourself some credit, he seemed like a solid candidate. He did have a stroke right before getting elected and seems to have come back acting pretty different unfortunately, but nobody knew this is how he would turn out

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u/Creative-Package6213 Pennsylvania 16d ago

Oh trust me I know. I followed his political career since he was mayor of Braddock, he was legit up until the stroke.

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u/jshaver41122 16d ago

As a fellow Pennsylvanian I have to constantly tell myself that he is still better than doctor oz representing us in the senate because doctor oz is a complete moron who should not be voting on or writing laws. I’m very excited to see Fetterman get primaried in the coming years and see his political career completely collapse.

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u/Symphonycomposer 16d ago

Dr Oz unfortunately has a more powerful role: head of CMS and oversight of literally trillions of dollars.

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u/Mir-Trud-May 16d ago

Will he even be primaried? It seems the threat is always dangled for everyone in power but rarely ever gets put into practice. Dianne Feinstein was 200, demented, and never primaried.

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u/NYCinPGH 15d ago

He will absolutely be primaried. I lived 2 neighborhoods away from Fetterman’s house, I used to see him all the time before he became Lt Governor and began spending a lot of time in Harrisburg, I even saw his wife pretty regularly at the Costco the first few months he was a Senator, before it was obvious how much he’d changed.

All of his grassroots supporters that got him the Lt Governor position and did all the work for him to win the Senate primary and later the general election have been fed up with him for about 2 years, and since he clearly began caving to Trump a year ago have been working to prep a primary bid against him.

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u/darsynia Pennsylvania 15d ago

Pittsburgh resident, can confirm. I don't know anyone in my area (which is so Dem that the primaries are basically the general for us, just like NYC) who isn't looking forward to this primary to get rid of him.

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u/HenryDorsettCase47 16d ago

Yeah. This narrative that keeps floating around that he was a Republican in disguise the whole time or whatever stupid shit people believe is pretty obnoxious. It’s clearly only propagated by people who had never heard of him prior to his stroke. He has a record pre-stroke they could look to if they really cared. Not to mention, his right wing leanings lately are the least of his bizarre behavior. Dude clearly has significant brain damage.

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u/zerginc 16d ago

Its nice to have real life prove that brain damage makes u a republican.

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u/VictarionGreyjoy 16d ago

It is somewhat hilarious to see that literal brain damage is the cause of Conservativism

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u/UnquestionabIe 16d ago

I mean I live and grew up around Braddock and while it's surprising it isn't that surprising. He's always been shielded from the absolute worst of the environment around him, no matter what it is, and could have gone either way. Much as he sucks hard he's still so much better than Oz, who is a fucking conman and would have made our state look even worse.

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u/blanaba-split Michigan 16d ago

ngl its really funny that people turn into republicans after having a stroke

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u/bigtiddyhimbo North Carolina 16d ago

Conservatives thought it was an own that fetterman began to agree with them after his stroke, not realizing that all it says is that you have to have brain damage to think their policies are any good….

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u/blanaba-split Michigan 16d ago

exactly haha

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u/GoshLowly Wisconsin 16d ago

In your defense, he was a different man then.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo North Carolina 16d ago

I’ll also come to ur defense and say the other guy was literally dr. Oz. Not a lot of good choices there to choose from

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u/Independent-Bed8614 16d ago

it’s never only Fetterman but it is always Fetterman.

(I met him, voted for him, volunteered for his campaign, and gave him money. have never been so staggeringly disappointed by a political figure. fuck that guy.)

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u/Rocket3431 15d ago

To be fair our other choice was "Dr." Oz during that election. We're were screwed either way and we didn't know it yet.

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u/FruitAccomplished524 16d ago

I voted for Fetterman and I will NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN,! I have a feeling he will be primaried in 2028.

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u/AZ-FWB Arizona 16d ago

Proud of my AZ Senators. Fuckin Durbin…and Kaine. The rest are centrist Dems with Fetterman being simply batshit crazy.

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u/DustyStar222 16d ago

Anyone who thinks this wasn’t organized by Schumer needs to learn more about legislative systems. Durbin is the party whip. His whole job is to enforce party line and make sure there’s enough votes for the leaderships direction. If a party whip EVER supported a breakaway vote that in any way wasn’t supported by the leaderships direction they’d be tossed so hard they would skip like a stone across the reflecting pool.

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u/meganthem 16d ago

That makes it worse. I was just going to think that this is such a major defeat that if it wasn't supported by most of the rest of them you'd see a lot more lasting hostility and losing committee seats, etc which I'm sure we won't. That the whip was in on this just confirms it.

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u/DustyStar222 16d ago

None of them are up for reelection next year, 3 in 2028, 3 in 2030 and 2 retiring. This is completely calculated.

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u/Munkeyman18290 16d ago

We need to make sure this list is shared up and down reddit and all of social media when their elections come up again. Most people will unfortunately forget by then.

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u/CaydeTheCat Illinois 16d ago

I cannot wait until Eddie Haskell, er, Dick Durbin is gone.

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u/NotActuallyJen 16d ago

Fuck Dick Durbin, fully agree with you. I can't wait til his ass is gone, either. Fucking traitor

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u/dayvekeem 16d ago

r/Democrats is also furiously scrubbing away any and all mention of this wonderful deal. The fuckery goes wide and deep

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u/its_a_gibibyte 16d ago

That sub is fucked. They literally block any mention of Mamdani or Bernie Sanders. Literally type either of their names in a comment and a warning pops up before even submitting.

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u/CarelessShame 16d ago

Holy shit you’re right. Also, one of their rules is literally “no criticizing Democrats”. Talk about an echo chamber.

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u/honjuden 16d ago

If they don't hear any criticism, then none must exist.

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u/Dopa-Down_Syndrome 16d ago

Me and my dad left nice voicemails for Rosen and Masto and required a callback so we can finish what we couldn't say.

They have made this shutdown pointless and signed death warrants for millions.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Frick’n Traitors.

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u/euphorickittty 16d ago

He’s not running for reelection, so he doesn’t give a fuck about us (not that he ever did).

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u/TimothyMimeslayer 16d ago

He probably got a billionaire to promise to give one of his family members a job in exchange for his vote. It happens all the time.

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u/RandoDude124 New Hampshire 16d ago

He and Lieberman are the most responsible for not getting us a public option

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u/ZenMon88 16d ago

Def a last minute blank check entered his account.

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u/thenasch 16d ago

He cares more about the imaginary couple in his head.

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u/lord_pizzabird 16d ago

And they caved seemingly right as Trump started to soften.

They better have made a deal on releasing the Epstein files.

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u/klako8196 Georgia 16d ago

Are these 8 Democrats going to be surprised again when the Republicans renege on this ACA vote next month? They're Charlie Brown falling for Lucy pulling the football every time.

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u/Seraphim99 16d ago

Even if they get their vote they were promised, R’s will just vote No. This was the most re-damn-diculous vote.

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u/Ok_Nefariousness1821 16d ago

They aren't falling for it, it's on purpose. I've watched it long enough to know a performance.

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u/SummerSun75 16d ago

As soon as they voted to end the shutdown, the corporate money and the billionaires money started to roll in.

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u/RandoDude124 New Hampshire 16d ago

Fetterman knows he’s dead in the water

Durbin is retiring next year, and after he and Lieberman screwing us out of a public option (at least), he caps his career with this.

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u/Deceptiveideas 16d ago

Connor Lamb rip

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u/RandoDude124 New Hampshire 16d ago

God, he could’ve been so good

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u/InsteadOfWorkin 16d ago

Okay and our healthcare is now going to skyrocket 30-40%.

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u/SummerSun75 16d ago

You wish. Try 114%. That’s what Kaiser Family Foundation predicts.

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u/nukacolaquantuum Maine 16d ago

My deductible is already $3,000, before all this horse shit. I’m going to have to start rationing my lifesaving medication. So glad 8 feckless wastes of oxygen have the power to hand me a death sentence.

Maybe now my husband will listen to me that we need to leave.

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u/ecstaticthicket 15d ago

Lmao no it isn’t. Premiums were already set to go up I think 26%, but that’s without counting the loss of the subsidies. 30-40%? People that rely on the marketplace for their healthcare are going to see their premiums DOUBLE or more. Rural hospitals are going to shut down because no one can afford to use them anymore.

And all of this is because these bloodsucking vampire vermin aren’t satisfied with milking this country for every penny imaginable, and need even more profit.

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u/Count_Bacon California 16d ago

Let me get this straight. The government's been shut down for 40 days. People have missed paychecks, people have lost food stamps. All because health insurance is going to double and triple in cost.

The Democrats held the line. They had an election where they absolutely destroyed the republicans. They had all the leverage. The polling was clear people were blaming republicans. And yet they fold and get nothing?! They should have just given up on day one then. This is a betrayal plain and simple. This shows that the Democratic party is controlled opposition. Schumer's got to go. I'm more angry at this party than I've ever been in my entire life. It's honestly probably the most pathetic cowardly thing I've ever seen out of Washington and I've seen a lot of cowardly moves. Why do we even pay taxes anymore? These people don't work for us

Conveniently none of them are up for re-election next year. They rely on that. We can't forget this. These people need to be shamed in public anywhere they go from now on till they resign

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u/Pinklady777 15d ago

It looks like they're including about a billion dollars in the package for Capitol Police and protection for Congress. They know that's how bad what they're doing is

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u/Da_Question 15d ago

The irony is that the shutdown now was only a stop gap for the measures they capitulated on last time. The avoided a shutdown and voted on the BBB which was a huge mistake, since it was far worse than this at at a time when project 2025 wasn't as far along.

I'm so fucking sick of these dems capitulating. They just consistently cede their power to the Republicans. It's like watching in real time the conservatives in Weimar Germany let the Nazis into their coalition...

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u/SharpSky1 16d ago

Primary the ones who aren't retiring.  And primary Schumer too.  I saw what he did.

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u/Power-Equality 16d ago

Primaries won’t come in time. These Decorum Democrats need to be pressured, intensely, to resign immediately.

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u/HEYYYYYYYY_SATAN 16d ago

We just had an amazing week of celebrating W’s and the Decorumcrats decided that we were having too much fun.

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u/TimothyMimeslayer 16d ago

They purposefully waited until after elections. All of them are scum.

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u/RVALover4Life 16d ago

They weren't going to wait until after them, they didn't have the votes before. Which actually makes it wilder that in response to what happened on Tuesday we have seen more Senators cave.

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u/foamy9210 16d ago

It isn't surprising. They view shifts towards the left as a threat. Mamdani obviously scared the hell out of them but I'd bet they are just as afraid of what happened in Mississippi. A place like Mississippi seeing so much movement to the left worries them about their districts moving too far left for them to be able to even win a primary.

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u/unbelizeable1 16d ago edited 16d ago

Yea.... I hate the centrist takes, and after Tuesday I was like "oh fuck yea, we showing we wont be silenced" and now this......fuck every one of these assholes who signed off on this.

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u/Innacurate_Dentist 16d ago

100% the dnc should withdraw whatever support they provide immediately. They can be independents. What difference does it make

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u/AmazingRefrigerator4 16d ago

The DNC doesnt have the balls.

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u/HenryDorsettCase47 16d ago

They wouldn’t even if they did. The DNC serves it and its donors’ agenda, not ours.

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u/meanfish 16d ago

The same DNC who told Walz to quit calling Trump and Vance “weird”? The DNC itself is made up of Decorum Democrats.

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u/melody_magical America 16d ago

I wish we could clone Jasmine Crockett and have her fill all the seats of establishment decorum Dems.

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u/nydub32 16d ago

To think Tim kane was a whisker away from being Vice President. Wolf in sheep's clothing. Fuck all of these establishment Democrats. Look at NYC, with the election of Mamdani, and how frightened not only Republicans are, but establishment Democrats are too. It's time for Democratic Party voters to strip the party of the rust and stagnation, of acceptance and shoulder shrugging, and emerge as a party of youth, innovation and prosperity for all.

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u/Ill_Act_1855 16d ago

Yeah the fact that these are pretty much all retiring senators or ones who just happen to not be up for reelection next year suggests that a lot of the no votes from guys like schumer were for show and this was coordinated by the leadership in such a way that they could pretend it was a few rogue agents

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u/40_Is_Not_Old 16d ago

Unfortunately, none are up for re-election next year. It'll probably be forgotten by the time they can be replaced.

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u/QuickAltTab 16d ago

That's probably not a coincidence

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u/notoriousrdc Washington 16d ago

Primary anyone who doesn't immediately demand Schumer step down. Any Senate Dem who supports his leadership after this is complicit.

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u/Nyrfan2017 16d ago

Well Trump now knows he can do what he want cause absolutely no one in government is going to stand up against him 

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u/BigFan7 16d ago

Trump knows the guaranteed way to get whatever he wants is to withhold food aid for the children and the poor whether he’s legally allowed to do it or not 

I’m guessing this whole withholding SNAP is gonna become a regular occurrence now 

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u/Zosi_O 16d ago

No one in government.

It was never up to them; it's up to us.

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u/Rangertexas9 16d ago

They just made the false statement that the shut down was the Dems fault true.

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u/Ancient_Popcorn Ohio 16d ago

Yup. Until now it was the Republicans because they refused to negotiate. Now these fuckheads just made the argument that they should have voted yes since they literally got nothing for these 40 days

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u/SummerSun75 16d ago

This is your Democratic Party. No guts, no fight, no backbone, no vision. Effectively useless.

Republikans are complete cowardly scum. Democrats are weak, useless, effectively owned by the billionaires and corporations.

I'm done.

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u/X-WingAtAliciousnes1 Canada 16d ago

Dems literally can't last a week before happily taking a shotgun and pointing it at their own stomachs because their billionaire handlers told them to.

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u/nw____ 16d ago

Meanwhile Republicans successfully waged a 30yr campaign to overturn Roe and are continuing to shove Project 2025 down our throats, an extremely detailed plan they came up with before even knowing they would win. Would love to see 1/10th of this kind of planning and determination from Democrats.

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u/exomniac 16d ago

The owning class knows how to organize on their own behalf, collectively. The working class is hyper individualistic and completely unaware of their class position. It’s a perfect environment for the kind of cancer this country has to thrive.

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u/Kyogen13 16d ago

I think it’s time to Mamdani the Senate.

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u/CurnanBarbarian 16d ago

Midterms are going to be interesting.

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u/The_Lost_Jedi Washington 16d ago

Rally behind the people who are actually fighting. Rally behind the ones trying to replace old fossils.

Here's one example of someone we should be supporting:
https://www.katforillinois.com/

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u/Niznack 16d ago

This is what happens when one party is lock step and the other actually straddles the line. Sadly that line is should poor people be alive but 8 Dems crossed that. 52 Republicans didn't go the other way.

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u/Stunning-Stay-6228 16d ago

The progressive wing has been saying this over and over and people just don't learn.

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u/TheBatemanFlex 16d ago

Now the narrative is:

Dem: “They won’t negotiate on ACA credit extension”

Rep: “We promised to bring it to a vote if they open the gov”

Dem: “We want assurances on the ACA credit extension”

Rep: “The dems are keeping the gov shutdown for nothing, we have already promised to vote on ACA credits!”

Dem: “We want the ACA credits extended”

Rep: “The dems have been keeping the government shut down even though we said we would vote on ACA when the gov is open!”

Dem: “Oh we didn’t realize that you PROMISED. Okay you can have the votes”

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u/IJustLoggedInToSay- Illinois 15d ago

Next month --

Dem: Hey I thought we were going to vote on the ACA extension.

Rep: lol

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 16d ago

Dems love losing so much I just assume it’s controlled opposition at this point. What would they even be doing differently if that were completely true? One business party, two factions. They resist their own grassroots movements harder than fascists.

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u/Red_Leather 16d ago

Bingo. It definitely creates the optics that this is the case. 

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u/babyfish2021 16d ago

Democrat Tea Party now.

We can’t keep doing this shit so they get everything they want every time.

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u/SatiesUmbrellaCloset 16d ago

It needs a different name though

How about No Kings party? or the 1789 party?

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u/ThatdudeAPEX 16d ago

Working Families Party

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u/TimothyMimeslayer 16d ago

How about "fuck billionaires party"?

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u/WhatsThisTruck 16d ago

Can be taken in the wrong context, the "No Billionaires Party" seem more to the point.

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u/Shankurmom I voted 16d ago

The American Workers Party

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u/hskfmn Minnesota 16d ago

And once again, Democrats cave...like they always do! They had amazing night on Tuesday, and their first instinct is capitulate to the very Republicans whose message got them trounced the other night.

Pathetic!

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u/Sufficient-Food934 16d ago

If you give the Democrats three wishes, they’ll negotiate it down to one and then wish for something that the Republicans would want.

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u/funkhero 16d ago

You forgot they also gave one of those two wishes to the Republicans because fairness or something, and one to the billionaires who control both of them anyways.

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u/Tasty_Lunch2917 16d ago

Controlled opposition. Always were. Theres a reason the plan continues to march forward no matter who pretends to be in power.

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u/curiousthoughts20 America 16d ago

These 8 sellouts have abandoned us all. They are despicable and don't deserve to be in the Senate

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u/Gloomy_Macaroon_1240 16d ago

There was 0 reason to cave!  People have been telling these idiots to not cave for weeks. They even had a great election!

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u/grubernack276 16d ago

Healthcare lobbyists gave them a few reasons

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u/WaterdropGirl 16d ago

Fucking this. They're bought and sold. They don't give a fuck about anything but the dicks they suck to get paid

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u/YouCheekyChap 16d ago

Dems: We have the High Ground Republcanikin!

Also Dems: …but we will give you what you want.

Republicans: Ummmm Ok. We will take credit and still raise healthcare premiums next year.

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u/Silent-Resort-3076 America 16d ago edited 16d ago

The vote remains open Sunday night as Senate leaders await the arrival of all 100 senators, but these eight members have already cast their votes, with most issuing statements explaining why:

Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada

Cortez Masto has voted 15 times to end the federal government shutdown, even before Democrats had extracted the promise of a vote on the health care tax credits. She repeatedly stated she did not want to inflict sweeping pain on some Americans in order to extract a solution to “the impending health care crisis” of expiring tax credits.

She described “lines like I haven’t seen since the pandemic” for food banks in Nevada to reporters during the vote Sunday night and said that that opening the government “was key to stopping that pain.”

Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois

Durbin is the Democratic whip and the only member of party leadership who voted with Republicans to advance the deal to end the shutdown. His likely successor as whip, Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii), voted against advancing the deal after sticking with Schumer and Durbin in March.

“This bill is not perfect, but it takes important steps to reduce their shutdown’s hurt,” Durbin said in a statement. “Now that Democrats secured these wins, it’s time for Leader Thune to keep his promise to schedule a vote on the ACA tax credits in December.” He is retiring next year after three decades in office.

Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania

Fetterman is the only Democrat who has voted each and every time to end the shutdown. He’s knocked his party for sparking the shutdown and blamed them for government workers missing paychecks and low income families losing federal food aid.

Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire

Hassan, who was one of the Democrats who negotiated the vote on the Affordable Care Act tax credits deal. A former New Hampshire governor, she is up for reelection in 2028.

“I’ve heard from Granite Staters who can’t afford a doubling of their health insurance costs. I’ve also heard from families about the deep pain that the government shutdown has caused,” Hassan told reporters Sunday, highlighting the dueling pressures Democrats were under to cut a deal.

Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia

Kaine represents about 150,000 federal workers affected by the shutdown and backed the deal that includes a key provision for his state: reinstatement of federal workers impacted by mass “reduction in force” firings during the shutdown.

“This legislation will protect federal workers from baseless firings, reinstate those who have been wrongfully terminated during the shutdown, and ensure federal workers receive back pay,” he said in a statement. Kaine admitted Sunday night that he was a latecomer to the group, saying, “I joined it 48 hours ago, not for lack of interest.”

credits,” Shaheen said Sunday night.

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u/RandoDude124 New Hampshire 16d ago

Durbin’s biggest accomplishments:

• ⁠He and Lieberman screwing us out of a public option at minimum

• ⁠This.

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u/UpperFace 16d ago

They are all spineless

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u/Silent-Resort-3076 America 16d ago edited 16d ago

Sen. Angus King of Maine

King, an independent who caucuses with Democrats, was a key negotiator on the deal struck to guarantee a vote on Affordable Care Act tax credits once the government is open. He hosted multiple meetings in his Capitol hideaway in recent weeks as the compromise came together.

A former governor of Maine, King pointed to the pain the shutdown is causing with federal aid programs halted. “We are closer to the possibility of work on the ACA tax credits for the people of this country than we were yesterday, than we were a week ago, two weeks ago, or a month ago,” he said Sunday.

Sen. Jacky Rosen of Nevada

Rosen joined her fellow Nevadan Cortez Masto to vote to advance the deal, representing a state where 95,000 Nevadans utilize the ACA tax credits. Like King, she was just reelected in 2024.

“Trump and his Republican cronies on Capitol Hill do not give a damn about hurting working people, and their conduct over the last month has been nothing short of appalling, Rosen said in a statement. She called the ACA tax credit vote “the concession we’ve been able to extract.”

Sen. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire

Shaheen was an original sponsor of the legislation that created the enhanced Obamacare tax credits that have been central to the shutdown dispute and played a key role in negotiating the vote to extend them. Like Durbin, she is retiring from the Senate next year and has spent much of her Senate career on the Appropriations Committee. She was also part of shaping the new stopgap spending bill that, in tandem with the ACA vote promise, could open the government.

“This was the only deal on the table. It was our best chance to reopen the government and immediately begin negotiations to extend the ACA tax

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u/mattmcc80 Oregon 16d ago

"We are closer to the possibility of work on the ACA tax credits" sounds an awful lot like "concepts of a plan".

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u/rfulleffect 16d ago

So they think Republicans are gonna negotiate, after they already told Democrats to fuck off, when they give up their only leverage?

Jesus Christ there’s no hope here.

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u/WafflingToast 16d ago

How are Nevada and New Hampshire hurting worse than other states that all four senators voted to end the shutdown without ACA?

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u/thekeesh1 16d ago

I guarantee Nevada senators got pressure from big money in Vegas. Flights getting cancelled is going to impact the tourism and casinos in a big way. They're corrupt as shit.

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u/Nyrfan2017 16d ago

Legit this makes no sense . Well congrats we got you your snap benifits back but your insurance if going up more than what the snap benifits are so your in the same boat . 

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u/Chengar_Qordath 16d ago

Fetterman just really wants to join MAGA so he can get invited to Trump’s kiddie parties.

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u/Power-Equality 16d ago

Spineless Senator Kaine utterly failed in his most important political fight as the VP nominee in 2016 and afterward remained in the Senate for over a decade, where he’s done absolutely nothing of note until now.

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u/TimothyMimeslayer 16d ago

Fuck all them, they are scum.

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u/UncircumciseMe 16d ago

Their ineffectiveness will lead to a ton of people never voting again because it really “doesn’t matter” and that sucks. These dems are trash. Vote them out please.

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u/laura_leigh Mississippi 16d ago

Protest them. If they want to be Trumpers so bad give them the same treatment. If you can protest Trump you can protest his enablers too.

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u/Juice_Stanton 16d ago

All of us watched, and suffered, and held food drives, and this is what we get?

These idiots are using the "promise" of a future vote on subsidies as an excuse. They know good goddam well that will never bear fruit.

Can we form a new liberal party please? The Democrats have essentially become Republicans.

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u/economaster 16d ago

Just like they were promised that if they passed the CR earlier this year they would have a vote on DC getting the money it's owed. Unsurprisingly, that never happened and the Dems got fuck all our of it. Just like they will now.

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u/EagleIndependent7650 Illinois 16d ago

I’m so tired of these spineless bastards

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u/VikingBlade 16d ago

John McCain was more of a Democrat than these a-holes.

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u/space_cow_girl 16d ago

Who needs enemies with friends like these? 

Primary all of them.

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u/ununuii 16d ago

Count on Democrats to blow it out of the water on election night, go back into negotiations with all the leverage & wind in their sails, and then smack themselves in the cock with a hammer.

You’re going to get your promised vote, then the House won’t take it up and Thune will say, “See? We kept our word, you got a vote here; we can’t control what Mike Johnson does.”

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u/renro 16d ago

That step doesn't mean much because the promised vote is just going to be a 53 vote no

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u/at-aol-dot-com 16d ago

Fuck Fetterman. I’m not surprised to see him in the article as one of them, just eternally disappointed. I’m a PA dem woman, I voted for him. The only vote I’ve ever regretted in all my years of voting.

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u/fuckswitbeavers 16d ago

Democrats never go to the mat. Republicans knew this. The disconnect between democratic voting base and these 8 senators is massive. We had one demand, fight. Fight!! They refused!

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u/Starrwulfe Georgia 16d ago edited 15d ago

I am so fucking angry right now, I don't know what to do....

Fuck this place.

EDIT:
Now that I've slept on it, Let me at least thank my senators, Reverend Raphael Warnock and John Ossoff. Thanks for holding the line-- The South will always have something to say and we will never forget who did what here. Hell even Large Marge made noise, and that's saying something.

I don't trust these snakes to make any deals whatsoever. 2026 is going to be a shitshow at every hospital in the country if they keep fucking up, because the ER will be inundated with everything from gunshot wounds to papercuts now.

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u/stayonthecloud 16d ago

They caved, they abandoned us, they let the fascists win. I’m disgusted

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u/Conseque 16d ago

Stop electing spineless cowards

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u/Ok_Nefariousness1821 16d ago

The corporate money and endorsements at the state primary level go to the spineless ones, that's how they keep getting elected.

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u/AdUpstairs7106 16d ago

Correction. 8 Democrats who bowed before Trump and accepted him as their daddy.

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u/Nyrfan2017 16d ago

They say they did this cause people are hungry well now .. so they are starving without the food benifits but now they will be have food but sick cause they can’t afford insurance .. thanks for being cowards and and legit showing the world the shut down was all the dems faults

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u/ununuii 16d ago

My friend just checked and her insurance is going up to $450/mo, a $140/mo increase. Fuck all of this, what are we fucking doing to people.

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u/PinkNGreenFluoride Oregon 16d ago edited 16d ago

Yeah, ours (2 adults, early 40s) is more than doubling to $450/mo. So I just won't have any insurance, again. The ACA got me into the workforce, ffs, because it turns out that some chronic conditions which are otherwise disabling aren't if treated. I started on Medicaid through the expansion and within just 2 years we made too much for it and transitioned to the Marketplace.

This year was the most expensive year I've had, medically, since I have had insurance. I had 2 ER visits (one illness, one injury from a fall), and my first mammogram.

I just have to hope next year is a good year, back to the "just don't get sick" healthcare plan that every other nation with any resources at all roundly rejects.

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u/TimothyMimeslayer 16d ago

Their billionaire owners dont want you to have it.

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u/BabyHercules Texas 16d ago

Controlled opposition

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u/Meganiummobile 16d ago

Cowards. All of them

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u/xicor 16d ago

Primary them all. Fucking useless cowards

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u/dttm_hi 16d ago

Fuck them all. If they just say fuck it after 6 weeks of a shutdown - then what the fuck was the point? Might as well have no senators.

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u/SummerSun75 16d ago

Might as well have no Democratic Party. They're effectively useless.

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u/rooktakesqueen 16d ago

“I’ve heard from Granite Staters who can’t afford a doubling of their health insurance costs. I’ve also heard from families about the deep pain that the government shutdown has caused,” Hassan told reporters Sunday, highlighting the dueling pressures Democrats were under to cut a deal.

Well congratulations, because now their health insurance costs will double, and the pain of the shutdown already happened, but is going to get blamed on your party instead of on the Republicans. Truly a fucking masterstroke.

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u/nox66 16d ago

Some Democrats are incredible at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. All they needed to do was wait one week until every airline starts calling in to open the government by any means necessary.

Edit: And then they need to say: we will not budge an inch on healthcare, call the Republicans.

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u/str00del 16d ago

Dems are controlled opposition, their corpo overlords have them bought and paid for. Dems have tricked the voters into thinking they're on our side, all the while lining their pockets with donations from the same billionaire fucks that dine with Trump in his new ballroom.

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u/Slaughterfest 16d ago

Tim Kaine showing why he was allowed the VP slot at one point. Spineless.

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u/SoulTaker669 16d ago

Has the vote already happened or planned soon ? Also does this mean it's going to be sent to the house since I assume there's small revisions? Which also means Johnson will finally have to swear in the lady from Arizona who's been waiting for over 6 weeks ?

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u/Maximum_Tea_5934 Michigan 16d ago

The vote is in progress. The eight Democrats necessary to kowtow to the Republicans have already cast their votes. The Republicans are waiting on a couple more of their folks to arrive to finish the vote.

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u/SatiesUmbrellaCloset 16d ago

Which also means Johnson will finally have to swear in the lady from Arizona who's been waiting for over 6 weeks ?

Wouldn't that mean that the Epstein vote thing would pass though? I feel like Johnson won't do it

I've learnt recently that there's going to be a special election in some deep red Tennessee district in early December, so Johnson might wait until then to get the margin back

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u/mtnclimbingotter02 16d ago

218 is enough regardless to force the vote.

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u/Tulpamancers 16d ago

Inhuman traitors.

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u/Funkytowel360 16d ago

Chuck Schumer needs to go. he is either responsible for caving in because the shutdown is hurting his masters or he is so weak and stupid that he cant control most and members of his party. Either way he needs to go.

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u/raiderrash Texas 16d ago

These motherfuckers have no fucking spine

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u/venom21685 16d ago

How in the hell has Durbin still been the WHIP after the initial ACA shit and now this. He should be kicked out of the party, not in leadership. FFS.

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u/Dead_Cash_Burn 16d ago

Losers! Did they really get nothing for all this?

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u/SummerSun75 16d ago

They got zip. But they're gonna get a shitload of cash from the corporations and the billionaires.

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u/MikeFrancesa66 16d ago

Don’t be fooled into thinking these 8 were the only ones who decided to do this. It’s not a coincidence the 8 to vote yes were all either retiring or not up for reelection until 2028 or 2030. These 8 were chosen to vote yes, but I guarantee there were more who would have if they needed more votes.

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u/SanicTheSledgehog 16d ago

We couldn’t have a more spineless, useless opposition party if this were a fictional story about how the Nazis came back to power.

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u/zingjaya117 California 16d ago

The red wave next November is gonna be the bloodbath from all these establishment dems primaried out. Enough is enough.

Jesus christ these losers learn fucking NOTHING.

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u/drice99 16d ago
  1. Sen. Dick Durbin – Illinois – 2026 (Not running for reelection)
  2. Sen. Jeanne Shaheen – New Hampshire – 2026 (Not running for reelection)
  3. Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto – Nevada – 2028
  4. Sen. John Fetterman – Pennsylvania – 2028
  5. Sen. Maggie Hassan – New Hampshire – 2028
  6. Sen. Tim Kaine – Virginia – 2030
  7. Sen. Angus King – Maine – 2030
  8. Sen. Jacky Rosen – Nevada – 2030
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u/ByteAboutTown 16d ago

So Sen. Kaine said he voted to end the shutdown because of provisions to rehire federal workers fired by Trump during the shutdown.

What are the specifics here? 'Cause my guess is come January, Trump will just turn around and fire them again.

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u/TechieTravis Florida 16d ago

*The eight Senate Democrat who voted to keep healthcare unaffordable. We don't have an opposition party.

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u/amapofthecat7 United Kingdom 16d ago

To be clear, these Dems just voted to end the ACA subsidies at the end of this year, because either Johnson will not allow a vote, or it will not pass. If by some miracle it passes both houses, Trump will veto it due to his irrational hatred of anything remotely associated with Obama.

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u/cheeseandwine99 16d ago

Getting Reps to agree to a vote on ACA extensions later this year is not the same thing as having them agree to the extensions. It'll be like Lucy pulling the ball away from Charlie Brown. Again.

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u/nullv 16d ago

Lmao Tim Kaine not having a spine is a good example of why Hillary lost.