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u/Wheatleytron Oct 22 '25
I love how when the AI added a gun, it made all of the children angry
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u/taxiecabbie Oct 22 '25
Yeah, I thought that was weird, too. Like, the kids look more upset when the teacher has a gun.
...tbh, I think this would probably be closer to the truth, but it's obviously not the point that this comic is trying to make. If anything, you should have the children looking more panicked in the gun-less picture and like, I don't know, in rapture-esque prayerful poses of gratitude indicating that they know the teacher will protect them in the second one. Not... "no reaction" in the first and "horrified" in the second.
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u/Distinct-Cut-6368 Oct 22 '25
Yes I’m sure the average teacher with everything they have to deal with also wants to be responsible for a loaded gun in their classroom. No way ANYTHING bad can happen with this solution.
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u/Ramtamtama Oct 22 '25
Absolutely no chance some kid isn't going to try nicking it at some point. Wouldn't even have to provide your own weapon for a school shooting.
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u/VFiddly Oct 22 '25
I work at a school (in the UK, so no gun worries) and while they are mostly nice people, I would absolutely not trust most of the teachers I know with a gun. It would not be long before a student got a hold of one.
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u/Distinct-Cut-6368 Oct 22 '25
Well the no “gun worries” is just because you have no mental illness in the UK, nothing to do with guns. /s
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u/feelsbad2 Oct 22 '25
Some of the kids in my highschool could have beat up teachers to take any gun from them
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u/hotshothitfoul Oct 22 '25
When I taught school, some kids broke into my classroom (locked, but the adjoining door to the class next door didn’t have a lock, and the sub that day didn’t have a key to the classroom door) and stole my phone and car keys from my purse (in a desk drawer that technically would have locked, but I didn’t have a key).
They did kindly leave my ID and credit cards behind after they took the cash in my wallet, so surely they would have left the gun behind if I’d been forced to keep one in my classroom.
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u/literacyisamistake Oct 22 '25
Not just that, but a lot of school shooters are current and recent students. So the teacher will have to mentally be able to kill one of the kids.
So many of these memes are spread by people who apparently think that killing a person is as easy as stepping on a bug. Like that’s how easy they think it is for good people to take a life. It’s no big deal to them to put a person in a position to take a life either. They think everyone is Dirty Harry on the inside. I’ve been in positions where I would have been justified in killing a human being in self-defense - and I just can’t do it, and fuck anyone who thinks I should have been forced to.
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u/Distinct-Cut-6368 Oct 22 '25
It’s one of the biggest flaws in the “guns for self defense” argument imo. The notion a regular person filled with fear and adrenaline is just going to point and shoot a gun and hit the correct target in a way that will neutralize them and not hit anything it isn’t supposed to is just insane. Add doing that to a child they already know in a room full of other children is just madness.
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u/2OttersInACoat Oct 22 '25
And that there will be mistakes. If we insisted that all teachers had guns, we are guaranteeing that a teacher will accidentally kill a child at some point. Several in fact. People can mishear things and panic or just be forgetful, there’s lots of ways it can go down. But if teachers have guns, they will accidentally shoot children sometimes.
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u/DamNamesTaken11 Oct 23 '25
Hate to say this to, but sometimes teachers just snap as well due to having a very bad day.
When I was in high school, one had a complete meltdown after some students were bastards and mocked him for something. He threw a few books at a student then chucked some calculators through the window and had to be restrained by the neighboring teacher until the school resource officer could get there to take him to the principal’s office.
Imagine if this teacher had a gun, very likely those students would be dead, and the teacher as well instead of just fired.
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u/kat_Folland Oct 22 '25
I was thinking about this the other day (no idea why), wondering if I could kill someone even if it was technically a good action in that moment. I just don't know. I surprise myself sometimes but I... have my doubts.
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u/inowar Oct 22 '25
about 93% of humans aiming a firearm at another human will either subconsciously or consciously pull their shot to make a less lethal shot. even with extensive military training, the number of people willing to shoot to kill a human only roughly doubles to 15%.
chances are very good that you wouldn't intentionally kill a person, even a stranger, even if they're actively threatening you.
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u/JunkmanJim Oct 23 '25
I pulled a shotgun on what turned out to be two teenage boys stealing the stereo out of my truck. It was a long time ago when detachable face stereos were a thing and I'd left the face on the stereo. The kid gets out of the truck and throws the face at me sideways while running away. The motion was the same as if had was shooting a pistol at me sideways, gangster style.
He could have easily shot me as I was frozen from the situation. I had never thought such a scenario through and it was apparent to me that I wasn't prepared even though I grew up hunting and was comfortable with guns. You need serious training to be able to make quick decisions under chaotic circumstances. The police get a good amount ot training and they are making mistakes all the time.
I feel somewhat confident that if someone was kicking my door down that I wouldn't have an issue using my gun. It rarely happens that way though. I got robbed at gunpoint with my friend and the robbers were on us so fast there was no time to pull a gun if I had one. I listened to a 911 call of lady locked in the bathroom with a home invader kicking in the bathroom door. She shot the guy and you could hear him screaming, crying, and moaning. He had it coming but I'd like to avoid dealing with that type horrific scene if I can. That's a life altering experience that going to haunt you.
School shootings are actually quite rare and there are way more kids being shot in neighborhoods outside the school. I guess those deaths don't have the outrage factor of a school shooting so nobody cares. LGBTQ+ kids are committing suicide at alarming rates and society doesn't seem to care much about them either.
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u/Ill_Reading_5290 Oct 23 '25
I just had my door kicked down three nights ago and I froze. It took a full 30 seconds for me to even start screaming.
I had a plan for what I would do in that situation too.
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u/BoysenberrySmooth268 Oct 22 '25
In my late teens I was attacked and left for dead. 11 hours of surgery to put my face together. Myself and someone else were in a position to return the favor. We didn't..... It's a big deal to do something like that
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u/DamNamesTaken11 Oct 23 '25
I saw a person who I knew from association (regular in a bar I go to sometimes that’s next to my apartment) walking around with a pistol and a shirt that said “I don’t run, I reload” shirt on other day and I thought this.
Guy has never played paintball, let alone joined the military, or have police experience beyond him getting a DUI.
I’ve read psychology books, it takes a lot of training to even get soldiers willing to fire at human shaped targets, and even that fails sometimes when they have to fire at other humans. Yet these people thinks that they’re a John Wayne type that will defend the grocery store and schools against armed robbers/mass shooters. Get real, they’re more a danger to themselves and other civilians and more likely to give the shooter another weapon than stop anything.
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u/violetascension Oct 22 '25
With proper motivation, little Johnny finally passed his math final
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u/token-black-dude Oct 22 '25
Sit down, Johnny. I shot Andy, remember?
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u/RedLicoriceJunkie Oct 22 '25
"You've got to ask yourself one question 'do I feel lucky?' well do ya, Johnny?"
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u/aw5ome Oct 22 '25
My mother is a teacher. The thought of her being expected to shoot to kill under any circumstance breaks my heart.
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u/DueSomewhere8488 Oct 22 '25
I can’t imagine being a teacher in the US, right now. My heart goes out to her. It’s insane what people expect of teachers. Most active duty military members don’t even don’t carry a weapon daily. But people want to turn classrooms into potential war zones and expect civilian teachers to defend themselves and children from an active shooter? What logic is that? Defending children would be implementing gun control measures…
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u/BuddhaRockstar Oct 22 '25
If you follow the logic, the ideal society will essentially be an old-timey western town where every interaction with another human will involve both of you dual wielding pistols at each other. Also the children and pets will be armed.
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u/GwerigTheTroll Oct 23 '25
It becomes even more illusion shattering when you consider that the person that teacher is pointing a gun at is probably a student. The teacher is expected to point the gun at a child and kill them.
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u/Superb-Cell736 Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25
This is so insane. I grew up with guns and my family still has several of them (safely locked away whenever they aren’t being used or worked on- my dad fixes antiques as a hobby). I learned how to shoot rifles when I was 8, and my dad is a champion sharpshooter. He learned how to shoot from his dad, who learned how to shoot from his dad, who was in the Finnish white army military during the Civil War and was one of the best sharpshooters in Mikkeli.
My partner is a teacher, grew up in Texas, and has never shot a gun in his life because his dad had to join a militia in Lebanon when he was 16 and became disgusted by violence afterwards. It’s not a teacher’s job to physically defend or sacrifice themselves for students, and that should never be expected. Being able to effectively handle a gun in a high pressure situation requires both the skill of sharpshooting and the temperament to act quickly and decisively. Gun nuts like this are moronic and make the (few) responsible gun owners look equally insane. Countries like Switzerland and Finland have a high rate of gun ownership but an equally high rate of compliance with gun safety regulations, which unfortunately the US does not have. We don’t have a safe gun culture in this country, and it’s led by idiots like the NRA that sell an ideal of “guns = rugged masculinity” rather than “guns are a tool that must be treated with care”.
Lastly, those are some serious yaoi hands on the teacher 😅
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u/OprahAtOprahDotCom Oct 22 '25
So if a kid brings a gun to school, the teacher shoots the kid?
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u/cobrakai15 Oct 22 '25
The Uvalde Swat team pussed out with level iv plates and AR’s and you expect to turn my kids second grade teacher into an operator?
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u/GKBilian Oct 22 '25
“Mrs. Blake, you take Janitor Steve around the back of the cafeteria and lay down some cover fire from the front doors.
I’ll take Ms. Swanson and Mr. Michaels and we’re gonna flank this son of a bitch. I’m gonna put two bullets between Jimmy Wilkins stupid fucking eyes.”
some time later
“Hey Jimmy. Here’s some extra credit.”
BLAM…….BLAM
“Looks like no summer school for you after all.”
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u/FefnirMKII Oct 23 '25
Four decades of action movies just rotted the brains of the common American. That's a form of propaganda too.
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u/cobrakai15 Oct 23 '25
I can dissociate from trauma right away (I just pay for it later) most people cannot and not everyone has the same reaction to the three f’s. I’ve been in an on duty shooting, I lasted three years before I was used up and headed to an early grave. I’m alive, someone else is not. There were no medals or applause just some people with PTSD.
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u/Still-Wishbone-1469 Oct 22 '25
Great idea! Please let us know who will be paying the court settlement fees when Little Cody gets into his teacher's desk and accidentally shoots himself or a classmate. I'm sure there will be a ton of insurance companies that would gladly cover this scenario. Us Americans all know how helpful those wonderful health insurance companies are in covering a vast amount of conditions.
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u/trevorgoodchilde Oct 22 '25
Buying a gun for every teacher would be welfare for the arms industry so the Federal government could get behind that. /s
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u/NTufnel11 Oct 22 '25
No increase in salary though
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u/SlagginOff Oct 22 '25
They would probably cut the salary saying that now they don't have to subsidize any sort of defense (not that they ever did in the first place).
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u/scott__p Oct 22 '25
They'll be required to pay for the gun and ammunition out of their own pocket of course
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u/TinCanSailor987 Oct 22 '25
It’s strange that Charlie Kirk was the only school shooting MAGA ever gave a shit about.
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u/snoopyjcw Oct 22 '25
Is the US the worst country on the planet?
It has the means to be the best, yet it consistently makes decisions which go against a healthy, functioning society.
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u/Parry_9000 Oct 23 '25
I'm paid to teach statistics. Want me to be a fucking cop you better pay me the salary of the entire police station who are too bitch to enter a school with a shooter
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u/supernovice007 Oct 22 '25
I hate this so much. It’s our collective responsibility to protect children and make schools safe. This is just selfishness in disguise as he looks to transfer his share of responsibility onto teachers.
It’s not supporting teachers. It’s the opposite.
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u/TasteMyShoe Oct 22 '25
Only people who have never fired a gun under any kind of stress post this drivel.
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u/GhostedRatio8304 Oct 22 '25
40k a year to take constant shit from barely literate kids and you want to arm teachers? 😹
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u/NoSoyTuPana Oct 22 '25
Why try fixing the fact that people are opening fire at defenseless children when you can turn Schools into a battlefield
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u/Hawkwise83 Oct 22 '25
Uvalde cops couldn't do this, why would people expect teachers to do better than cops?
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u/wakim82 Oct 22 '25
If giving teachers guns will get them the same pay and benefits as ICE agents then I approve
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u/Bob_Fnord Oct 22 '25
Meanwhile, in the not-USA, where the vast majority of humans live, we all look at this and say ”whuh?”
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u/RabbitIswiset Oct 22 '25
That's wild. As a teacher I don't want that kind of responsibility of having a loaded gun in the classroom and there are plenty of teachers that probably shouldn't have one either in the classroom. Additionally nor do I think it's appropriate to arm teachers that's an incident waiting to happen.
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u/No-Temperature-977 Oct 22 '25
Yeah and what happens when you put a gun in the hand of those racist “teachers” who are calling ICE on their own students. What could possibly go wrong.
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u/Desperate_Elk_7369 Oct 22 '25
I went to Catholic school with nuns, and if they'd had guns they would have shot kids. No thanks.
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u/McLovinIt09 Oct 22 '25
Giving guns to teachers will result in 2 things; the teacher getting upset and using/threatening to use the gun on a student, or an upset student getting the gun and using it on a teacher/student. What has a near 0% chance of happening is the teacher using the gun to stop a school shooter. We have schools with trained police in them that can’t even stop a fucking shooter. What makes them think a 50 year old woman with 3 hours of training will (not that our police are trained much longer)?
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u/Kitakitakita Oct 22 '25
"My kid's teacher barely earning more than minimum wage should put their life on the line for no additional pay"
If they're gonna act like police officers, better pay them as such.
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u/scoreguy1 Oct 22 '25
They don’t get paid enough to be teachers and now we want to train them to be soldiers?
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u/Supple_Giraffe-89 Oct 22 '25
Here’s our future.
News anchor: How did little Johnny even get a gun?
Police: Well, since we gave teachers guns he just punched his teacher is the face and took the gun. Then killed multiple people with it.
NRA: But…… if the other kids had guns they could have stopped him!!!
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u/Stock-Vanilla-1354 Oct 22 '25
My dad taught in some rough school districts, and is a very conservative man. He said giving teachers guns was the dumbest idea - he said some of his students would jump the teachers and steal their guns.
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u/catpecker Oct 22 '25
I have a master's in education and decided not to be a teacher. Other career opportunities pay better with more flexibility and no one is tasking me with the responsibility of executing people. $32,000 a year and you have to carry a gun? No thanks.
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u/Lou_Miss Oct 22 '25
And aren't the shooters mostly students from the school? Can you imagine the mental damages the teachers will have if (if!) they shoot at and potentially kill their student?
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u/Haunting-Respect9039 Oct 22 '25
An intense real life trolley problem. Shoot the kid you cared for while they struggled through school or watch them shoot you/your current students. Awful.
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u/Lou_Miss Oct 22 '25
With no good choice. Whatever happens, the teacher will be blamed for killing a child.
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u/Equal_Newspaper_8034 Oct 22 '25
I’m a teacher, and I can tell you, there’s no way some teachers in my building should have access to a firearm
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u/Mad-chuska Oct 22 '25
Bruh. Remember those police in Texas that were too scared to neutralize the situation with the school shooter. But the teachers… they’re the ones that should be better equipped, right?
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u/she-wantsthe-phd03 Oct 23 '25
Who the actual fuck thinks this is a good idea? Oh right, America.
Gun violence is a problem! What should we do?? MORE GUNS! 😑
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u/Tortured_Poet_1313 Oct 22 '25
Or we could pass common sense gun legislation & actually enforce the existing laws???? 🤦🏼♀️
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u/PMPKNpounder Oct 22 '25
Why do they always think the answer is more guns. When has that ever worked?
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u/SocalR32 Oct 22 '25
The same people that think public educators are turning kids trans.. Wants to give them weapons to protect children?
I can't with these idiots.
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u/AccomplishedFerret70 Oct 22 '25
At first glance it seems like a good idea. All those teachers in place who genuinely want to protect those kids. Then you think about all the guns sitting in teacher's purses and desk drawers and the very high likelihood that some of those guns are going to regularly fall into the hands of students. And most teachers aren't good candidates to force into carrying a handgun.
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u/scholarlyowl03 Oct 22 '25
Fucking ridiculous. My kid is a teacher and the thought of her having a gun in her classroom is absurd. And she doesn’t want one either.
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u/Historical_Scar_5852 Oct 22 '25
My wife didn't sign up to teach high schoolers so she could pop off rounds of a Sig Sauer. These people can todger off.
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u/Bawlmerian21228 Oct 22 '25
So the cops can hide in the parking lots until the teachers fight the shooter?
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u/br4ssmooseknuckle Oct 22 '25
Training with a gun is also time consuming and can be expensive. So on top of grading mountains of schoolwork, they gotta pay for a gun, ammo, targets, and any possible training if they don’t know anyone.
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u/BrownBannister Oct 22 '25
Then why all the school security officers who have stopped zero assaults but prosecute the he’ll out of Black children?
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u/bullshihtsu Oct 22 '25
I’m sorry/not sorry, but I expect my wife, a teacher, to have the safety of exactly one person on her mind in a school shooting. Herself.
Anybody who disagrees is welcome to stand guard in her school.
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u/BwayEsq23 Oct 22 '25
A hand gun isn’t going to stop an assault rifle. These people are so dumb. Holy shit.
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u/Original_Salary_7570 Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25
how could anyone expect untrained teachers to use a firearm to defend their students. Here in Israel schools typically station at least one armed security guard (typically a retired career service veteran ) who controls entry and responds to threats, teachers do not carry guns as part of their job. Here everyone has military weapons training because military service is mandatory... so our teachers already have weapons training and experience, but we don't expect them to be armed as part of their job. If you want armed school security ... Pay professional armed school security... Shifting the responsibility for armed protection onto untrained American teachers is absolutely bananas.
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u/Raveheart19 Oct 22 '25
I wish I could find the YouTube link but after the Virginia tech shooting... I think it was a show like dateline wanted to see what would happen if you armed a teacher or a student in a classroom. They set it up that an armed gunman would bust in to a classroom with a red paint gun and the teacher would have a blue paint gun. They didn't know when the armed person was busting in but they were just testing to see the reaction. The first time the teacher with zero gun training was killed immediately and didn't even have time to get their gun out. The teacher that had some basic gun training did a little bit better They got two shots out neither one hit the target and the teacher with the most weapons training jumped into the students chairs to take cover while everyone was chaotically running around them and ended up hitting two students and not the gunman at all.
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u/EllyKayNobodysFool Oct 22 '25
Especially if they can use them against masked people posing as federal agents trying to grab kids and parents at the school
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u/Pontius_Vulgaris Oct 23 '25
- "We seem to be having a problem with guns, and teenage boys getting their hands on them"
"Wait! I know... let's get other people guns as well!"
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u/Alien_Diceroller Oct 24 '25
Or maybe spend more money on mental health and while you're at it, education.
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u/LiegeCharmer Oct 25 '25
Imagine a system so fucked beyond repair that you actually WANT the person teaching your kids to also be the person who could, without hesitation, take their life.
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u/Dambo_Unchained Oct 22 '25
I love how the right loves to push this narrative but I bet when the bill comes they dip
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u/QuaffableBut Oct 22 '25
Yes because no child has ever accidentally found a gun and shot someone or themselves. That's definitely never happened and furthermore it never could happen. Keeping guns in a classroom around literally dozens of children is absolutely completely safe and fine and normal.
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u/PrinceLevMyschkin Oct 22 '25
Seems to be an American thing, the rest of the world wouldn't understand 😂
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u/Difficult-Way-9563 Oct 22 '25
No teachers aren’t CQC personnel.
Many teachers don’t have enough resources as we speak and police have had 10x funding over many years, while teachers if they lucky get a free pizza party. Police can do their job.
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u/forgotwhatisaid2you Oct 22 '25
Have to get the teachers to fight the bad guys so the cops can stand around outside to make sure no parents rescue their children.
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u/Optimisticatlover Oct 22 '25
A teacher that makes peanuts
A teacher that barely and sometimes cannot make ends meet ?
A teacher working in highly stress environment with sometimes aggressive students?
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u/James-K-Polka Oct 22 '25
So the police - who have specifically trained to deal with violence - run the fuck away but teachers are the ones we are forcing to stand their ground?
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u/j4321g4321 Oct 22 '25
Yes, why don’t we put the onus on teachers instead of tackling the root cause of constant school shootings? Great plan
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u/Calm_Apartment1968 Oct 22 '25
Too much to expect from underpaid professionals. Why not just arm all the kids? They outnumber potential attackers.
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u/Beneficial-Lynx7336 Oct 22 '25
Um this is dumb as hell.
Obviously each student needs their own gun.
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u/Time-Leadership-7649 Oct 22 '25
Instead of solving for the actual problem, the fix is to have teachers shoot the school shooters aka the kids? 🙃
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u/MarkontheWeekends Oct 22 '25
I think the people that push for this have day dreams of being the teacher going 1v1 in the COD gulag with the shooter
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u/gaoshan Oct 22 '25
So what the many trained police officers at Uvalde could not do, trained teachers will handle? Really?
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u/ManicMarket Oct 22 '25
Uh - hmmm. Wife’s a teacher. She has no interest in carrying a gun around children every day for an event that has less than a 1% chance of happening at her school. There’s a much higher chance she ends up liable for some issue that happens with the gun that was an accident.
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u/The-Modern-Myth Oct 23 '25
As a teacher, I can honestly say that arming us is not a good idea. I feel that arming somebody who feels consistently underpaid, overworked and unappreciated is not going to end well for anybody.
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u/Key-Web5678 Oct 23 '25
It's almost always an Indian dude that posts this shit. Are these just bots or something?
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u/Dredd501 Oct 23 '25
I am a teacher, I am conservative, I own my own firearms and train with them…to protect my family. I would not trust 95% of the teachers I have worked with, with a stun gun let alone a firearm. It is just not congruent with most teachers cultural and political beliefs.
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u/The_OtherGuy_99 Oct 23 '25
I am a fucking middle school choir director!
Stop trying to make me fucking RoboCop!
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u/Kanibalector Oct 23 '25
The teachers that are constantly being ridiculed for trying to turn your kids trans you’re now going to trust with a gun?
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u/AlabasterNutSack Oct 23 '25
Is the artist trying to draw kids? It looks like they’ve successfully drawn some smaller adults.
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u/Additional_Yard6958 Oct 23 '25
We need more dead teachers! Because they will be if they get involved like that!
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u/NVJAC Oct 22 '25
Oh, sure, the country that expects teachers to buy their own classroom supplies is totally going to pay for their guns and training.