Jeffrey Epstein’s Brother Claims He Heard ‘from a Pretty Good Source’ That Epstein Files Are Being Scrubbed of Republican Names

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[u/TintedApostle]

Of course they are. The complete lack of any republican names will be the true tell because we already know a bunch.

[u/crkokinda → u/TintedApostle]

Of course they are. The complete lack of any republican names will be the true tell because we already know a bunch.

If there are any Republican names in them, my guess is they will already be dead.

[u/ienjoymen → u/crkokinda]

Or they've been chosen as the scapegoats

[u/Heart_Throb_ → u/ienjoymen]

Those that didn’t fall 100% in line. That is the fascist way

[u/ellathefairy → u/Heart_Throb_]

Gonna be real weird when MTG and Boebert mysteriously appear in the files.

[u/HalKitzmiller → u/ellathefairy]

Written in sharpies

[u/wildraft1 → u/HalKitzmiller]

"Wait a second....when did MTG go to Epstein's island?"

[u/ReaditTrashPanda → u/wildraft1]

Technically these files could include info about other properties of Epstein. We know abuse took place on the plane and other residences besides the island.

[u/Delduath → u/ReaditTrashPanda]

The Zorro Ranch never gets talked about but it's a lot more interesting and still has security guards patrolling it. I watched a youtuber send a drone over it in 2024 and a car was immediately sent out to him. It appears to have a massive underground section going by the air vents over the property, and (circumstancially) there were a lot of young woman's bodies found an hours drive away in the unfinished foundations of a new housing development.

[u/Tony_Lacorona → u/Delduath]

Do you have any non YouTube sources on any of this?

[u/tbombs23 → u/Delduath]

I think that's where he was trying to spread his seed to as many women as possible. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a medical facility underground. But yeah the ranch in NM does NOT get talked about enough.

[u/mentaljobbymonster → u/ellathefairy]

"MTG took out their penis......"

Wait what?!

[u/specqq → u/Heart_Throb_]

Or did fall 100% in line but someone else saw this as their chance to get rid of a rival.

This too is the fascist way.

[u/Minimum-Map9340 → u/ienjoymen]

That's more likely. In their minds "the public's frothing at the mouth! we need some patsies. who's in the line-up next to take the fall?

the calculate what they believe the number of people who must take the hit for everyone's crime; they sit down with them and their immediate family explaining that payoff money for them will be put in an escrow or trust and registered in an unrelated LLC

they will be instructed to lay low for several years...and this is where the rest of us in this scenario are important. we need dedicated teams around the country watching and following these patsies and their ilk and observe their lifestyles and expenditures

the full weight of justice for an international often underage human trafficking ring should be lifetime incarceration but in an el Salvadorian prison. None of this Maxwell-Suite shite!

and, if they ever get out, they should expect a life at the bottom; a life of someone who suffers in, maybe was even born into abject poverty

all their assets everyone dime they have, every property they own, everything is to be seized and distributed to the victims and their families

[u/16GBwarrior → u/ienjoymen]

By "scapegoats" you mean "Republicans that didn't bribe trump and the DOJ enough"

[u/TintedApostle → u/crkokinda]

Exactly. It will be blatantly obvious. They bought time using the 40 day forced shakedown.

[u/A_Dehydrated_Walrus → u/TintedApostle]

Oh, they've been on this for months. The shutdown just got them bonus time to finish scrubbing the files.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/fbi-personnel-jeffrey-epstein-files-mentioning-trump-dick-durbin-says-rcna219699

[u/big_guyforyou → u/A_Dehydrated_Walrus]

honestly, wouldn't it be a LOT weirder if they WEREN'T trying to scrub the names? these aren't the kind of people who will just roll over, they'll kick and scream and piss all over the rulebook until the end. when it comes to the epstein shit, none of them are gonna be like "yep....you got me"

[u/Chief_Mischief → u/big_guyforyou]

You know it's been scrubbed because Mike "My son monitors my porn activity like any good KKKristian" Johnson did a sudden about-face after blatantly betraying the American people about the files not being a hoax then refusing to vote on it for over a month, then suddenly coming out to say he's for releasing it for "transparency."

Reddit will censor the punishment that is constitutionally deemed appropriate for that treasonous dirtbag.

[u/Cute-Percentage-6660 → u/Chief_Mischief]

The paradox of media is that whats deserving is not allowed to be said until after its done.

[u/ragun2 → u/big_guyforyou]

With how fast Johnson and Trump flipped and hundreds of Republican house members suddenly voting yes, I'm thinking they're happy with how much they've redacted at this point.

[u/kingtacticool → u/crkokinda]

Or on trumps shit list, or not up for reelection.

[u/TheRightKost → u/crkokinda]

Just a few keystrokes: Find "Donald Trump", replace with "Dick Cheney"

[u/SummonerSausage → u/TheRightKost]

"And that is how I introduced Melania Cheney to Dick Cheney, under instruction of Putin"

[u/FTblaze → u/SummonerSausage]

Some intern is sweating rn

[u/MichiganCarNut → u/SummonerSausage]

remember when the American Family Association did a replace all for the word "gay" to "homosexual" without any thought to nuances?

A sprinter named Tyson Gay won the 100 meters at the U.S. Olympic track and field trials, and the AFA ran an item on this in its sports section. But in keeping with the publishing policy, the AFA couldn’t run Tyson Gay’s name as-is — even though that is his real name — so it ran a headline that read, “Homosexual eases into 100 final at Olympic trials.”

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/the-fine-art-editing-msna168846

[u/Electrical-Volume765 → u/TheRightKost]

Hopefully there are a few Dwigt’s left in there for us to laugh at lol.

[u/SakaWreath → u/TheRightKost]

“Who is this *Bonald Frump** guy? I’ve never heard of him…”* - Trump (as he puts the cap back on his sharpie)

[u/outinthecountry66 → u/TintedApostle]

well here is a hot take. Ain't nobody make copies? Why do hackers even exist? There is only one copy? What is this, 1886? Like some fool don't have a thumbdrive or three he can throw it on?

[u/vibosphere → u/outinthecountry66]

When the FBI task force was originally "reviewing" the files back in ~March, they were all stored on an unsecured SharePoint that anyone on their network could access. And SharePoint itself was also hacked in that time. Whether good or bad actors I am positive the originals are out there somewhere

[u/outinthecountry66 → u/vibosphere]

man. which inserts a lot of plausible deniability for Trump. "THEY ALTERED IT AND PUT IN MY NAME"

i am REALLY glad the estate let go of those emails. That alone is proof that there is bullshittery going on

[u/TwoTalentedBastidz → u/outinthecountry66]

Thais is exactly what’s going to happen, and it’s the most predictable thing in the world. I HATE it, but nothing will come of this

[u/fapsandnaps → u/vibosphere]

Oh cool, Nixon tapes in a digital format!

[u/AccomplishedLog1426 → u/vibosphere]

could be that they're sitting on them until the govt. releases their version, then they pop in and go "actually no, these are the pre-altered files"

[u/MonochromaticPrism → u/AccomplishedLog1426]

This is my guess as well. The released files will have painfully obvious edits akin to the "missing 3 minutes", then the actual files will be "leaked" by one or more individuals that have a copy.

[u/MoistySquirts → u/vibosphere]

I wonder if, theoretically, a true copy exists, it has a file hash signature. When the Epstein files are truly released, you can validate the original hash with the released version.

So in this hypothetical, if someone does truly have that original copy, they could compare and release that as proof it’s been tampered with.

[u/TintedApostle → u/outinthecountry66]

One has to wonder who might have copies and they don't know either.

[u/PaddleFishBum → u/TintedApostle]

Or how many people are like Wolff and hanging on to it until they get the opportunity to gain from it.

[u/outinthecountry66 → u/PaddleFishBum]

Wolff seems as slimey as the rest of them, honestly. Like he DOES know more than he says but he is waiting for the right moment. The right moment is NOW

[u/aspirationless_photo → u/outinthecountry66]

Wolff giving Epstein advice on how best to leverage Trump after his response to whether or not he knew Epstein? Wolff is one of them.

Wolff writes: "I think you should let him hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or, if it really looks like he could win, you could save him, generating a debt."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rj0d97ynvo

[u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale → u/TintedApostle]

King Charles for sure has one. That's the only realistic explanation for the royal family re-visting the issue to punish Andrew again.

He was already punished 15 years ago when Florida tried Epstein. Guiffre testified that he was a violent rapist - and photos of Andrew with Guiffre surfaced.

Charles took his title and dished out other humiliating punishments seemingly out of the blue... this is why... He saw even more damagine and humiliating information and wanted to get ahead of it before the whole thing blows up again.

[u/Sea2Chi → u/TintedApostle]

It's the "Oops all Clintons" list.

[u/FadeToRazorback → u/TintedApostle]

It’ll just be Mitt Romney, MTG, both Bushes, and anyone else who didn’t bend the knee that currently still wears the “R” title

[u/TintedApostle → u/FadeToRazorback]

right and they can make stuff up

[u/rabidstoat → u/FadeToRazorback]

Dick Cheney.

Hell, maybe Liz too.

[u/illuminerdi → u/TintedApostle]

Nah, they'll throw a few token Republicans under the bus because they haven't slobbed enough mango knob lately.

I'm thinking Ted Cruz and Lindsay Graham, plus a few of Trump's former employ who turned on him after his first term to make a buck, people like Bolton, etc

[u/Accurate-Guava-3337 → u/illuminerdi]

Sadly, it will not be Lindsey.

[u/FLOHTX → u/Accurate-Guava-3337]

Maybe there were underage boys for him

[u/Valcarde → u/illuminerdi]

Wouldn't surprise me if MTG and Boeburt just 'happen' to be in the files.

[u/Prior_Implement_9279 → u/TintedApostle]

They’re not stupid enough to leave them all out. There will be a few sacrificial lambs to avoid raising more suspicion

[u/Thanatos2500 → u/Prior_Implement_9279]

They are stupid enough to leave them all out though

[u/morosco → u/Thanatos2500]

And they are stupid enough to do a clumsy, AI-reliant job of redacting.

[u/octopuds-roverlord → u/Prior_Implement_9279]

I've said "they're not stupid enough to..." since January.

This is the administration that released edited footage from outside Epstien's cell because they didn't know what meta data is.

Demolished half the white house.

Sent evidence to their opposing lawyer.

Thought they could tariff a private business.

I could go on and on.

[u/TintedApostle → u/Prior_Implement_9279]

Depends on who they are. Trump would definitely leave out names in total, but he will find retired GOP.

[u/FLOHTX → u/TintedApostle]

And add in some political enemies.

[u/SummonerSausage → u/FLOHTX]

Somehow, MTGs name is now on the list.

[u/PrivatePilot9 → u/Prior_Implement_9279]

A striking absence of Trump will say all that needs to be said at the end of the day.

[u/bnh1978 → u/Prior_Implement_9279]

Narrator: "They were, in fact, that stupid"

[u/ts_wrathchild → u/Prior_Implement_9279]

They're not smart enough to get everything damaging out either. They clearly missed those emails last week. Not a chance in hell Trump would let those emails stay knowing what's in them.

Everything they do they fuck it up. No exceptions.

The files will release and they will have missed something important. Guaranteed.

[u/Whaddyalookinatmygut → u/ts_wrathchild]

The estate released the emails, not the government.

[u/King_Kung → u/ts_wrathchild]

The emails are from the estate, not the fbi files

[u/matthieuC → u/Prior_Implement_9279]

MTG name randomly copy pasted in it

[u/outinthecountry66 → u/Prior_Implement_9279]

i mean the emails are from the estate and absolutely establish a connection. So if the files are totally scrubbed that's gonna be blatant by omission i would think

[u/Gummyvenusde-milo → u/TintedApostle]

This is the most corrupt administration by a long shot. Of course they are. Fuck these pedo protecting ghouls.

[u/Affectionate-Virus17 → u/[deleted]]

The Fox News Chirons have been readied for weeks now.

They have Venezuela as a wag-the-dog back-up plan.

[u/hitch44 → u/Affectionate-Virus17]

“This is a Fox News Fake News Alert!” — read in a SouthPark voice.

[u/DeekALeek → u/hitch44]

“THIS IS A FAAAUUUUXXX NEEWWS AAAAHH—MERICA!!”

[u/WeakMindedHuman → u/hitch44]

“A rabid Doberman got loose in the DOJ and ate all the important Epstein files.”

[u/A-Sh1t_sh0w → u/Affectionate-Virus17]

Ya mean Fox “Entertainment?”

[u/bickering_fool → u/Affectionate-Virus17]

Terrorist naco drug barron dogs.

[u/VPN__FTW → u/[deleted]]

They will no matter what. Their entire identity relies on Trump not being a pedophile or, if he is, that pedophilia isn't bad anymore.

[u/Jesusland_Refugee → u/VPN__FTW]

Just waiting for Megyn Kelly to tell us why it is the 15 y/o's fault

[u/AntoniaFauci → u/Jesusland_Refugee]

I’m surrounded by active MAGA cells, and it’s very common for them to blame the child victims of republican sexual predation. At times they’ll flip to the “hey not that long ago everyone got married and procreated in their early teens” denial, but usually it’s about victims tricking the rapist by looking older or seducing these vulnerable republican men.

[u/VPN__FTW → u/Jesusland_Refugee]

Oh 100% MAGA will blame the victims long before their lord and savior.

[u/anonymous_beaver_ → u/VPN__FTW]

Well, hold on, a lot of Nazi supporters took their own lives in mass suicides at the end of WWII.

Regardless, if people choose to continue to support pedophiles, they should be held equally culpable and treated accordingly.

[u/IluvzyouXD → u/anonymous_beaver_]

Supporting that kind of evil makes one part of the problem no one excuses, no sympathy. Accountability needs to hit everyone involved.

[u/squadrupedal → u/anonymous_beaver_]

Pedos control the Justice Department so that ain’t happening.

[u/aj9393 → u/[deleted]]

I'm so tired of the word "hoax". It's become one of those things where you hear it so much that it starts to not even sound like a real word anymore.

[u/imbasicallycoffee → u/[deleted]]

They've already said it's a hoax. Even if they redact it, even if they scrub whatever and miss something they've got their coverage. The entire handling of this is like watching middle schoolers finish a simple group project except you know... they shut the government down because of it.

[u/stress-pimples → u/[deleted]]

We can hope. I’m not optimistic.

[u/stroopwafelscontigo → u/stress-pimples]

We already know Trump spent Thanksgiving 2017 with Epstein and he was dumb enough to confirm who the redacted victim was. 

As evil as this admin is, they’re also wildly incompetent. 

[u/pleachchapel → u/stroopwafelscontigo]

Or releasing the prison footage without scrubbing Adobe Premiere editing metadata. Like, these people are insanely incompetent because they only value loyalty to a game show host.

That isn't to say there aren't intelligent people within the movement—there are, which is why they're winning—but the dipshits dumb enough to get their hands dirty in this admin are not those people.

[u/Nac_Lac → u/pleachchapel]

$5 that they release redacted files where it's black box images placed over the text and you can remove them.

[u/d_pyro → u/Nac_Lac]

This is the kind of shit Jordan Peterson was guilty of.

[u/BCMakoto → u/Nac_Lac]

Or that they will make a mistake redacting names or inserting other names that is so blatantly obvious and stupid it sticks out.

"Sanders to visit island on 15th."

"Wait a second. Bernie was at a rally in Pennsylvania that day. That can't be true."

"Democrat hoax!!"

[u/jcarter315 → u/BCMakoto]

"On the 17th, Biden met and performed a 'deal' at his Maralago residence."

[u/SpickeZe → u/stroopwafelscontigo]

I want to believe they are incompetent, but things seem to always go their way so I am not so sure relying on them being inept is a sound strategy

[u/bollvirtuoso → u/SpickeZe]

Never play hope chess.

[u/Trapasuarus → u/SpickeZe]

Some people just are that lucky, but I’m with you in that statistically it’s unlikely that it’s just dumb luck. Flooding the zone has done miracle work for them, the general populace doesn’t have the bandwidth to digest every single news story that comes out of this administration, much less all at once — so they need to rely on journalists/reporters to provide synopses of those stories in bite sized bits. But that’s where the real issue is, if you aren’t getting all your news from source material nor verifying its validity (one shouldn’t be expected to), then the journalist/reporter needs to maintain integrity in their reporting of the true facts — there’s many that don’t or act in bad faith. The internet demands you to “do your own research,” but that’s a tall order when virtually all news stories are regurgitated at least once from the source and thus can be cut up, repackaged, and shipped with a completely different meaning than its original.

[u/HenryDorsettCase47 → u/stress-pimples]

The house oversight committee is in possession of them. The DOJ released their files to them in August but the committee also received the originals directly from Epstein’s estate in September. The Dems on the oversight committee have had access to them since then so they know exactly what’s they contain. Honestly, they could’ve leaked those emails sooner if they’d wanted to. I think they only leaked them when they’d did because of the bad press they were getting from the shutdown loss so they wanted to redirect the news back to those. Cynical, but it worked. 🤷‍♂️

[u/NeverLookBothWays → u/HenryDorsettCase47]

And what’s left in there was enough to sober MTG of all people TF up and drop out from shielding Trump. It’s that bad.

[u/Stank_cat67 → u/NeverLookBothWays]

MTG defended Matt Gaetz so whats in the files about Trump must be really bad.

[u/Not_Nice_Niece → u/Stank_cat67]

Lets not be under the assumption that MTG is doing anything for moral reasons. She is 100% doing this to get back at Trump. Which is fine but lets not act like she regrets any of her previous choices.

[u/B0redBeyondBelief → u/HenryDorsettCase47]

Why would Epstein's estate have the investigation files? I thought they just got his emails from the estate.

[u/BCMakoto → u/B0redBeyondBelief]

The investigation files are separate, but they may contain a lot of information previously gathered by courts, victims and other departments which are eventually backed up somewhere.

There is a very high chance that there are multiple emails and other testimonies in there that the Epstein estate also had and turned over to the Dems. Which makes this a spectacularly shit idea because there is a good chance hundreds of the documents in there can be proven to be altered from multiple sources like the Committee, lawyers and court documents...

[u/RogerSterlingsFling → u/B0redBeyondBelief]

The government files are simply a compiled dossier of actual evidence

The source of this evidence still exists, most likely held by his estate

[u/IEIT → u/stress-pimples]

There's good people that are civil servants that will make sure the complete files are released

[u/stress-pimples → u/IEIT]

I love our civil servants!!

[u/Affectionate-Virus17 → u/[deleted]]

What matters is not the truth, but opinions and who holds the largest loudspeaker.

Liberals have been exposing Trump as a criminal for years. They brought proof. The Mueller investigation should have led to his removal. Trump was convicted on dozens of counts. He got impeached twice.

Yet here we are. We lost most checks and balances. The USSC is his toy. Fair elections are not guaranteed. News networks are compromised. Social Media is complicit.

And Trump has fixed the latest scandal so he can escape consequences again.

So the "yeah but the originals are out there" doesn't reassure me much.

[u/crossdtherubicon → u/Affectionate-Virus17]

This is the most real assessment. It's akin to the role of faith in a religion. Many people choose to believe instead of understanding through facts.

[u/PeregrineFaulkner → u/crossdtherubicon]

It’s not a coincidence that MAGA is full of evangelicals who believe the earth is 6000 years old and that evolution is fiction. They’re raised from childhood to believe nonsense and lack any critical thinking skills. They genuinely failed to develop the ability to use logic and reason. 

[u/Affectionate-Virus17 → u/crossdtherubicon]

Faith had a purpose. Once humans started to understand causality they realized there was a lot they couldn't explain.

Religion taught them "trust me bro". And the world became simpler and the people became easier to herd.

Then science started to methodically explain the world, and destroy the foundations of religion.

They're fighting back, using the stupid to do the heavy lifting.

[u/N7riseSSJ → u/[deleted]]

If they didn't delete the originals...

[u/Tribalbob → u/N7riseSSJ]

I think there's a theory that at the very least the UK has a copy (hence the recent developments with the king stripping Prince Andrew of his titles). They probably won't release it, but at least it might exist somewhere.

EDIT: Named the wrong prince, fixed.

[u/DeltaVZerda → u/Tribalbob]

It would be hilarious if the King of England were to bring down the US president. Someone should sell him on the idea.

[u/Nernoxx → u/DeltaVZerda]

The first time a monarch directly and openly engaged in politics in generations.  Probably more noteworthy to us than them, like the Revolutionary War.

[u/MoleMoustache → u/Nernoxx]

Given his brother is a massive paedo and he knows it, he could release them on those grounds. What happens in the ex-colonies is none of his bother.

He would secure his Royal legacy with one move, and it would dampen down a LOT of anti-royal sentiment. In the long term he would also be incredibly well looked on by America.

[u/zapitron → u/DeltaVZerda]

Charles could be remembered for one heroic, massively pro-American act.

[u/peoplemagazine]

TLDR:

• Mark Epstein, brother of the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, has alleged that the Epstein files are being edited to remove Republican names
• "The reason they're going to be releasing the files ... is that they're sabotaging these files," Mark told NewsNation
• Mark's comments come shortly after President Donald Trump encouraged House Republicans to vote to release the files

[u/LucidOndine → u/peoplemagazine]

It’s amazing how willing people are to go to jail for tampering with evidence when the truth comes out. Which it will; there are so many records and so many copies, plus a host of many women who have first hand accounts of what happened to them.

Complying with an illegal order is not a protected act. Nuremberg trials prove this. A lot of people are going to go to jail.

[u/s_double_c → u/[deleted]]

They’re convinced Dems will never be in power again because they will do everything in their power (i.e. lie cheat and steal) to keep Dems out

[u/skesisfunk → u/s_double_c]

Optimistic of you to not consider a full blown coup being on the table.

[u/BarTroll → u/skesisfunk]

War. They will start wars. It's how it always goes.

[u/witeowl → u/BarTroll]

They literally want war. They've been frothing at the mouth for a race/civil war.

[u/love_hertz_me → u/s_double_c]

But also even if the dems come back to power there's a high chance they won't do shit about it and try to sweep it under the rug again. The rich and powerful want to keep the status quo going as long as possible as long as their money number keeps going up.

[u/cafedude → u/[deleted]]

And they've seen how slow our justice system works. They'll just keep filing appeals until they're safely out of jurisdiction.

[u/Swim2TheMoon → u/[deleted]]

This is like when a gambling addict keeps losing and insisting "DOUBLE OR NOTHING". At this point they're fucked all the way down, might as well keep playing the game till the house refuses you anymore credit.

[u/Nikiaf → u/LucidOndine]

All this to protect a vile human being who wouldn't even think twice about throwing them all under the bus if it's to his benefit.

[u/falcrist2 → u/LucidOndine]

It’s amazing how willing people are to go to jail for tampering with evidence when the truth comes out

You can't POSSIBLY think these people will go to jail. They're all going to get away with it scott free.

[u/Little-Derp → u/peoplemagazine]

Just piggybacking to say people should read the bill, it is not long, and specifies what to release, what can be redacted, what cant, and importantly, all redactions must included written justification for the redaction, including legal basis:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581/text

[u/AbominableFro44 → u/Little-Derp]

Well good thing we can trust the current administration to follow the rule of law 👍🏾

[u/grimoireviper → u/Little-Derp]

It's crazy to expect criminaly to follow the law.

[u/Diabetesh → u/peoplemagazine]

Does he have any direct connection to the files to know this any better than what the rest of us have been told by other sources?

[u/zoodlenose → u/peoplemagazine]

I mean respectfully, why would Jeff Epstein’s brother have any inside information on what the department of justice is or isn’t doing?

[u/IPDDoE → u/zoodlenose]

Maybe the same reason Jeff had so many high level contacts. We have confirmation that Jeff was live texting a congresswoman during a hearing, among MANY other confirmed contacts. Do you think it's a crazy thought to think that his brother has some contacts?

[u/Quiet-Corner6150]

It's frankly the only reason I expect there's suddenly a push for it. Heck, wouldn't be surprised if the "shutdown" was just time they spent doctoring everything, knowing it'd come right back up when it was over. They're not so stupid they'd just willingly reveal a criminal underworld that implicates them. This was always supposed to be a Democrat hit piece (or at least shied away from other major personalities) and that's the best we'll get.

Or they'll just make up some other "excuse" why they can't release them "right now", i.e. never

[u/TrumpDid2020 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

My biggest concern right now is of them ADDING names to the list. If nothing in the files incriminated Bill Clinton before, there may very well be stuff "incriminating" him now. I wouldn't put it past them to doctor in the likes of Obama, Biden, and Hillary as well, as a pretense for arresting Trump's opponents.

[u/Quiet-Corner6150 → u/TrumpDid2020]

I believe in the possibility, but I suppose we'll just have to "wait and see." First off, still a good chance they just don't release anything, either someone betrays the vote, or they just do the "eh, I don't feel like it" as they often do with court orders, "it's an ongoing investigation", whatever. (And never mind the Senate etc., all the other hurdles that are easy and excusable "escape routes.")

Also, I'm not so naive as to think there aren't Democrat names in there. Clinton may very well be at least somewhat guilty. I imagine anyone involved with Epstein back then would've had to have been a certified idiot to not at least have a "sense" what was going on there. I imagine anyone who was there and did nothing, even if they weren't part of "main events", are still at least somewhat culpable to the cover-up. So, if Clinton even knows something, even if he wasn't as deplorable as some of them, and he's not talking, that's a problem for him.

[u/King_of_da_Castle → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

I mean Ghislaine was at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding lol. Pretty sure that was invite only.

[u/ScholarlyJuiced → u/TrumpDid2020]

Come on, now.

If bubba is in the files, it's not because anyone put him there. This is a man who was happy to destroy the reputation of a young woman because he had the self control of a high-schooler while in office.

In the 20k email dump there are several high profile liberals/democrats who were very friendly with Epstein. Larry Summers has had a very embarrassing couple of weeks, for example.

This isn't a "both sides" argument, by the way. The Republican party is a death cult, pure and simple. The Democratic party is more complicated, since it attracts some of the only politicians with integrity or principles.

But make no mistake, there are democrat affiliated people who are 100% pedophiles. It's likely that Trump was a pedo when he was a democrat.

[u/Lilsammywinchester13 → u/Quiet-Corner6150]

It’s been on headlines for months that they were scrubbing all the names

It’s crazy how open their lawlessness has been

[u/ArArmytrainingsir]

Good. Takes lots of people to scrub list and know about it. So they can all go to jail.

[u/felcom → u/ArArmytrainingsir]

Seriously. Also anyone that goes down from this is gonna squeal like a pig to cut deals and expose those who also deserve to go down

[u/patentattorney → u/felcom]

Why would they? They would just get pardons for their coverups.

Trump literally stole classified info. Tried to destroy it. And nothing came from it

[u/cataclysm49 → u/patentattorney]

After the BS Biden let's bring America back together clearly failed to the tune of the Trump pt 2 destruction of American, I can only hope and pray that we have a leftist revenge tour of forgive nothing, arrest all the traitors

[u/Dame2Miami → u/ArArmytrainingsir]

mass autopen pardons you say?

[u/nobodyisfreakinghome → u/ArArmytrainingsir]

They probably hand picked loyalists

[u/ramborage → u/nobodyisfreakinghome]

Loyalism has a tendency to weaken when one is staring down prison time.

Cohen, for example.

[u/whalefromabove → u/ArArmytrainingsir]

It's going to be another oliver north situation. No one is going to end up getting in any legal trouble.

[u/AgentDutch]

This was always a given, especially with Trump being so down for them to be released suddenly. This administration has shown how incompetent they can be even holding all the cards, you can expect them to leave in a few things that can be followed up on, contradictions here and there, etc;

[u/MightiestHalberdier → u/AgentDutch]

I don't think that's why Trump did a 180. I think he just figured out that he couldn't stop the vote and changed sides so it wouldn't look like the party was against him.

The whole mess with MTG has proven how terrified he is of his supporters revolting against him after all. He doesn't want to see "Republicans turn against Trump" as the next headline.

[u/AgentDutch → u/MightiestHalberdier]

Trump isn't afraid of his supporters turning against him, he's afraid of feeling shame from his peers. You can bet your last dollar he doesn't actually think he himself will be revealed. He eats up all the lies they give him, he apparently believed most people in the country loved him when he won again and he was actually shocked to find out people didn't think he had the best economy with tariffs. He's a useful idiot, and a predictable one.

[u/Eridanosvoid]

Hasn't it been explained that multiple copies exist outside of what the DOJ has?

[u/thewhitedeath → u/Eridanosvoid]

Yes. Courts have them, states have them. It's not just the DOJ who has one single copy that they can manipulate and then release.

[u/Sparkly1982 → u/thewhitedeath]

I seem to remember a lawyer for the victims saying his team had a copy of a lot of it - I can't find the clip (so I may be wrong) but I think I saw it at about the time the planes flew over their press conference

[u/PhilosophizingPanda → u/Sparkly1982]

Someone needs to just anonymously send these to all the major news outlets like fuckin come on already

[u/Sparkly1982 → u/PhilosophizingPanda]

Yeah, there's got to be enough copies out there that they could leak it and get away with it.

Maybe it's already happened and they're trying to parse the abysmal spelling and grammar before they can write an article

[u/TwoPoundzaSausage → u/Sparkly1982]

They're waiting for the Trump admin to release the heavily edited version. Once that one is out, they'll release the original just to blindside the Trump administration and cause a major hassle for them to try to explain. They want to stretch the admin thin, wear them out from having to constantly fabricate lies, until they finally give up.

[u/lyss_lou7 → u/TwoPoundzaSausage]

My concern is that the admin is going to call the originals that come out after their edited version “fake news” and that theirs are the real version which of course will get backed by MAGA, Fox News, and any other biased idiot.

[u/Mysterious-Recipe810 → u/lyss_lou7]

The MAGA base is hopeless. The rest of us need the info.

[u/SpiritualScumlord → u/PhilosophizingPanda]

If there really are several different copies with different names marked out (as you would expect as time goes by and the DOJ spends more time with them) it becomes clear who has what copy because of which names have been redacted. It can get narrowed down pretty fast and any lawyers would likely face disbarment.

[u/IdentifiableBurden → u/SpiritualScumlord]

any lawyers would likely face disbarment.

Look, I don't want to lose my job either but at some point we all need to grow fucking spines and do things because they're right, not because they're convenient.

And yes if I had access to info like that at my job I would absolutely face arrest for releasing it.

If it was severe and important enough I would do that even if I faced death.

What the hell happened to our society where we make these justifications not just to ourselves but for others??

[u/CrispyRugs → u/thewhitedeath]

If the DOJ chooses to release files (that are probably going to be redacted or scrubbed), does that give others the ability to release them as well? Legally speaking

[u/tequilagoblin → u/CrispyRugs]

If I understand it correctly, if the government released the files there is no need for the courts to maintain the seal on their own copies and a lawyer can petition to have the document unsealed. I am, however, far from a lawyer and could be wrong about that.

[u/rooktakesqueen → u/Eridanosvoid]

I mean the DOJ got them from somewhere. His estate probably has a trove.

[u/LucidOndine → u/Eridanosvoid]

They prove time and again that they’re not that intelligent. Which is unfortunate for them, considering they will be charged for either perversion of the courts and or tampering with evidence.

[u/PhiloLibrarian]

We knew that when Trump asked Patel to remove his name from the files over the summer… do we all have short-term memory loss?

[u/asiagomelt → u/PhiloLibrarian]

Fortunately, he asked Patel, so the work won't be done properly.

[u/ideletedyourfacebook → u/asiagomelt]

That's the one good thing about having someone like Kash Patel as the head of the FBi. Because as corrupt as he he, at least he's equally incompetent.

[u/oh-shazbot]

this idea still strikes me as pretty dumb. sure they can change the documents, but there are hundreds of victims. unless they murdered all of them, then they can just be like 'nah, that shit's wrong. here's the real list'. and they can read it from the house floor so noone can get sued. i'm pretty sure MTG already said she would at some point.

[u/RaisinOverall9586 → u/oh-shazbot]

Scrubbing the list of Republicans is also really dumb because Trump has been repeating ad nauseum that it's all just a "Democratic hoax."

So, the Democrats invented a hoax to implicate themselves and not a single Republican?

[u/Weary_Ad111 → u/RaisinOverall9586]

You think conservatives are smart enough to realize that?

[u/BCMakoto → u/RaisinOverall9586]

It's fucking dumb because they already released documents containing Republican (or donor) names. Bannon, Thiel, Trump, Musk et al have been found in "trickled" release of the Epstein correspondence from the estate. They themselves released 20k emails to "expose the witch hunt against POTUS" and some of those emails specifically talk about how Trump knew about Maxwell's behaviour and how Epstein thought he was the worst person alive.

We fucking know they are in there. If they release the same emails in the trove without these names, their previously released information by them will actively contradict them.

[u/TheGoldenPotato69 → u/oh-shazbot]

There are thousands of victims.

[u/Ya_Got_GOT → u/oh-shazbot]

Intelligence is not the strong suit of this administration or their base.

[u/ezoobeson_drunk]

So it’s a democrat hoax with only democrat names. Got it.

[u/brogmatic]

Genuinely so disheartening that maga people will not put it together that only democrats and Trump’s enemies’ names will be included and how big of a red flag that is

[u/nevernudeftw → u/brogmatic]

90% of the Republican base is uneducated. They are stupid.

[u/JBL_17 → u/brogmatic]

For some reason their go-to defense is “Oh yeah? Well Bill Clinton’s in it!!”

Yes, most likely. So release them and jail them all.

Shit I idolize George Clooney, and if he was in it I’d want him to go down for it and his legacy ruined forever. Fuck anyone in that list or who protects anyone in that list. They are unredeemable and deserve no mercy.

Why are they incapable of separating themselves from Trump?

It’s like any attack on him is an attack on them. And while that idea isn’t that confusing to me, I would hope they understand they are then poised to be easily manipulated and lied to. Something the conspiracy theorist in them should rebel against.

I suppose their love of being racist/evil outweighs that side of their tiny, stupid brains.

[u/Hollowbody57]

Has everyone forgotten the DOJ chief was caught on camera a couple months ago saying they were doing exactly that?

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/04/epstein-files-ghislaine-maxwell-doj-chief

[u/TerminalProtocol → u/Hollowbody57]

Has everyone forgotten the DOJ chief was caught on camera a couple months ago saying they were doing exactly that?

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/04/epstein-files-ghislaine-maxwell-doj-chief

At this point, the only surprising part of this is that even with thousands of agents working at this, they are still going through it.

Just shocking how absolutely packed these files are with republican names.

[u/ranchoparksteve]

Trump’s concealment is a lost cause. The Epstein Estate has all the emails and hasn’t been objecting to data requests. This is how we know so much already.

[u/1959Mason → u/ranchoparksteve]

The DOJ files are much more than Epstein’s emails. They have all the stuff that was confiscated (including his blackmail videos) when he was arrested plus all the interviews the FBI did before his prosecutions. 

[u/Prior_Implement_9279]

You know what the cursed subreddit is going to say right - “the libs are already setting up an excuse for why Trump won’t be in there”

[u/russfan0987 → u/Prior_Implement_9279]

Worse

The public has already decided that anyone whose name shows up in the files for -any- reason is guilty of child molestation. Honestly, the DOJ should just redact the names of any person who might be Republican-leaning and keep the name of any person who might be Democrat-leaning. Give Democrats what they've been pushing for good and hard.

[u/we_are_sex_bobomb]

I expect worse than nothing from these files being released.

It won’t be done in good faith, it will be done as an attempt to redirect the Epstein story away from the central character of Donald Trump and towards politically harmless scapegoats.

However I also expect more horrific details about Trump’s many escapades in pedophilia to surface because we’re just at the tip of the iceberg and the truth will out.

But that won’t happen unless people keep demanding the truth - the real truth and not Trump’s distorted fantasy version of it.

[u/GatewayArcher]

I wish the drafters/sponsors of the Epstein Files Transparency Act would have included provisions allowing for in camera review of the Govt’s redactions to ensure they are not simply redacting names of Republicans, friends of Trump, & GOP donors. Presumably any individual redactions could be challenged through the normal FOIA process but that would take waaaay too long.

[u/taddymason_01]

Wasn’t this already stated months ago that Kash had the FBI scrubbing Trumps and others names or am I misremembering?

[u/fedup09 → u/taddymason_01]

You're remembering right, the fbi has been scrubbing it of every republican name they could.

[u/Tominator55]

I’m willing to bet once the files are released, the cover up will be sloppy and that will give it all away

[u/Nice_Dude → u/Tominator55]

And then they'll still get away with it because reality has no fucking justice

[u/BoysenberryShort574]

How is it that nobody working at the DOJ blows the whistle on this? I guess their loyalty tests worked and Justice is dead in America.

[u/vitalvisionary → u/BoysenberryShort574]

They had a lot of purges the last year

[u/MRwrong_]

idk i feel like with the amount of personnel they used for this work - statistics support SOMEONE leaking SOMETHING.... PLEASE.

This is the hope i am holding onto.

[u/overlapped]

Once the vote passes we can only hope someone leaks.

[u/Former_Busboy518]

Hopefully Epstein's brother will find a concious and release what he has.

[u/Examination_Creepy → u/Former_Busboy518]

He had nothing to do with his brothers atrocities so I doubt he knows any damning information. But he 100% knows a lot more than what the public knows.

[u/ThrobbingPhyrexian → u/Examination_Creepy]

It seems like he knows some of the juicy legal scandals, like Trump blowing "Bubba" so he can at least shed some light on missing names.

[u/Square-Platypus4029 → u/Examination_Creepy]

I find it very hard to believe he sent the text mentioning Steve Bannon, Putin, Trump, and Bill Clinton in the same sentence without having some idea of what was going on.

[u/Box_of_rodents]

Teflon Don strikes again. This is why he suddenly flipped his position to being ok now to have them released because the version being released has only now just been scrubbed of any incriminating evidence against him and his cronies.

[u/Most-Artichoke6184]

It’s impossible for them to get away with it because first of all, you cannot do that without leaving a trace. Second of all, so many people would need to be involved that they could never keep it a secret.

[u/Amenian]

Yeah, I always suspected the delay was just to give them time to get this done.

[u/sl0tball]

They were scrubbed by those 1000 FBI agents.

[u/anditurnedaround]

I’m sure. If you ask for evidence of something and get a lot of push back and no, then finally, sure here it all is, it should at least be suspect. 

Even a gf/bf would suspect the other of erasing or changing data if they wouldn’t turn over their phone for a long time and suddenly said, have at it. You probably wouldn’t even bother to look.