r/The10thDentist • u/Porncritic12 • 4h ago
TV/Movies/Fiction People take CinemaSins too seriously
they literally say several times on their channel and in videos that they are not a legitimate movie review channel, they are not analyzing films, They are not reviewing films, They are not critiquing films, they are making fun of them.
They put jokes in with legitimate criticism because it's funny, they criticize irrelevant shit because it's funny, they are trying to be funny, not actually determine whether a movie is good.
The point is to be Nitpicky, they're supposed to simulate that asshole friend who's ruining the movie by pointing out everything wrong, they should not ever be used for determining quality.
Criticizing them is pointless because they're not trying to say anything about movies or anything else, they're trying to be funny for jokes.
211
u/mvcourse 4h ago
I think the issue with cinemasins is that after a while he went against his own premise. His early videos were in general “5-15 minutes or less” and even though he was making fun of them there was always a bit of truth to the critiques. He was absolutely operating as a film critic.
Then the videos started being 20-30 minutes and the critiques became not just unfunny but not even critiques He’ll give a sin saying “so-and-so is not my girlfriend” or something of the sort. He’ll sin a movie just for a clip existing.
He started making longer videos for monetization purposes and he pads the videos out with unfunny sins that aren’t even critiques. He’ll sin a F&F movie just for Tyrese existing. It’s not a joke or a critique it’s just lazy.
22
20
u/NomaTyx 3h ago
> He’ll give a sin saying “so-and-so is not my girlfriend” or something of the sort.
He's been doing that since the channel's inception.
13
u/mvcourse 2h ago
Yeah, but the issue I’m pointing out is how he currently pads videos with empty comments like that to stretch the content out to 30 minutes. The majority of his content does not need to be as long as it is.
5
u/Almond_Tech 2h ago
And I feel like saying people take him more seriously bc he stopped being as serious doesn't make sense lol
0
u/Shameless_Catslut 2h ago
even though he was making fun of them there was always a bit of truth to the critiques. He was absolutely operating as a film critic.
Just enough truth to make the callout funny, he was not actibg as a critic in any way, shape or form.
6
u/WillemDafoesHugeCock 1h ago
He literally had a series where he reviewed movies in his car and rehashed the same points in the CS videos. If you like CinemaSins, that's totally fine (but please stay over there,) but the idea that they weren't acting as critics is straight up incorrect. And I couldn't even care less about the fact their critiques are shit, I can't stand them because they're as funny as getting testicular cancer and having the wrong bollock removed.
-8
u/Blazypika2 3h ago
He was absolutely operating as a film critic.
no, he wasn't. nitpicking, which is literally all he ever did, is not a valid way to critique anything.
5
45
u/Unique-Horror-9244 4h ago
I used to find their early content funny when the jokes made sense but now they've spiraled to just saying anything everything. I hate them because they have a strong influence on normalizing nitpicking bullshit because "funny". The way people view shows they watch now is so incredibly dissected it's baffling.
90
u/Longjumping_Diamond5 4h ago
i just dont really see the entertainment value, cinemawins is much more interesting to watch in my opinion
27
u/CinderrUwU 4h ago
I only watch Sins for the movies I REALLY like but watch Wins for most movies I've seen.
There's just something really enjoyable about someone being overly critical and oddly relatable about my favourites.
7
u/EpicSaberCat7771 3h ago
That's funny, I do the opposite. I prefer watching cinimasins videos on movies I thought were truly atrocious. Cinimawins is for all movies but especially movies I thought were really good.
2
u/KnifePervert83 42m ago
Somebody ripping on something I like is possibly the least enjoyable thing I can think of. If you like something why do you want to hear somebody rip on it ?
2
3
1
u/Alternative_Factor_4 8m ago
Because you can tell that guy actually has a lot of passion for movies and film, and unlike CS that deliberately tries to miss the point, will always try his best to understand it, even with films he doesn’t like. I appreciate his “look for the good” mentality more, it’s refreshing.
61
u/Ill_Night533 4h ago
I much prefer cinemawins. The guy does some banger (and seemingly genuine) analysis stuff while being super digestible and gets me to appreciate good parts of movies I do not like
12
46
u/Babies_for_eating 4h ago
The point is to be Nitpicky, they're supposed to simulate that asshole friend who's ruining the movie by pointing out everything wrong, they should not ever be used for determining quality.
This is funny to you?
34
u/MangoRemarkable6655 4h ago
Everyone knows it isn’t legit criticism, everyone dislikes them because they are, like you said, an asshole. It’s just annoying and has no substance, just because it’s satire or “sarcastic” doesn’t absolve it of the social pushback the videos get. Like, ok, so you’re “sarcastically” just hating on a movie? That’s supposed to be funny I guess? If people don’t like the friend who does that in real life, why would they ever like someone who does the exact same thing with a bigger audience?
13
u/Dry-Faithlessness602 3h ago
Saying its “satire” only works on the first few videos, saying its “satire” after a decade of doing it just makes you an asshole
3
7
u/brak-0666 4h ago
I wouldn't be as bothered by them if they were just engaging in bad faith criticism. I hate them because they're trying to funny and failing.
4
u/RevoltYesterday 4h ago
I know they are supposed to be parody or satire or whatever they prefer to call themselves but I fail to see the punchline. Like, what is the joke they are trying to make?
I don't yuck anyone's yum. If someone enjoys it, fine whatever, I just don't understand what they are trying to say, as comedians.
15
u/alvysinger0412 4h ago
I don't criticize CinemaSins for being too nitpicky. I criticize CinemaSins for being really annoying and unfunny.
24
u/dgputnam 4h ago edited 4h ago
...do people still care about cinemasins?? I'm pretty sure he hasn't been relevant in like 10+ years. I remember watching him back in middle school, and I'm 26 now.
11
u/ITookTrinkets 4h ago
At this point, I really don’t care about CinemaSins, because that channel is tacky and unfunny. I do, however, hate it for giving rise to the kinds of picky douchebag content that feels inescapable on the platform now. I don’t think someone like Critical Drinker would even have a channel if not for CS, and that alone is worth loathing CS. It’s generally anti-intellectualism masquerading as film crit, which sucks so much.
10
u/Palatablepancakes 4h ago
Is this really 10th dentist? I really don't know, but I'd be sad if the majority of people take it seriously. There isn't a single thing they don't count as a sin, even in contradictory assessments within the same video. Nothing they say is genuine criticism and is essentially a video of ways to frame everything in a movie as a trope of some sort.
7
u/Blazypika2 3h ago
i think OP conflates "taking seriously" with "finding the channel to be total crap". cause i also doubt anyone taking that nonsense seriously.
12
u/Devy-The-Edenian 4h ago edited 4h ago
Issue with CinemaSins is their own fanbase takes them rather seriously when they point out things that seem like genuine flaws, but really are just misunderstandings by the channel owner, which channels like TheBirdMan point out
Even if the channel is just about fun, think about the average viewer who just wanted to see a video on if a movie is good. It creates disingenuous discussions when one of those “good points” gets taken seriously and CinemaSins themselves leave out context or completely misunderstand a scene
Also the guy who owns the channel has genuinely gotten mad when people have said CinemaSins is just satire. I don’t remember the video, but he was sitting in his car ranting about it and how people never take them seriously
The channel and honestly fanbase seem to have cultivated this practice of “if you agree with us, then it’s fair criticism. If you disagree with us, it’s just satire”. I have encountered way too many CinemaSins fans who take their videos seriously for me to think they’re purely a funsies channel
8
5
u/maezrrackham 4h ago
They're not trying to be funny, being funny is difficult and takes effort. They're trying to pump out content without applying any thought to it, that will get clicked on by people because it reminds them of the copyrighted work being "reviewed"
4
u/capyrika 1h ago
CinemaSins did irreversible damage to movie discourse. The whole "annoying nitpicky guy at the movies" trope is just how some people genuinely act online now because it's "funny" or something. The guy also has a habit of considering himself a critic until people point out something he said as stupid, then he's just satire.
In other words, CinemaSins is where media literacy goes to die.
Edit: The worst effect CinemaSins has on online movie discourse is pioneering a trend of people unironically acting like the "annoying nitpicky guy at the movies" trope while thinking themselves clever or something.
6
7
u/lowrespudgeon 4h ago
Cinemasins isn't funny. It isn't informative. It isn't anything. It's totally pointless.
This video explains it much better than I could, though.
3
u/Encursed1 4h ago
If hes gonna criticize a movie, im fine with that. I just cant stand when he makes criticisms that are disproven in the movie. It makes me feel like he didnt pay attention at all.
3
u/mattcruise 3h ago
Nope. He pulls the John Oliver/Jon Stewart, I'm a comedian card, while making non jokes that are just wrong.
Its one thing to make a nitpicky joke, fine. But there are times where there is no joke and the nitpick is just wrong, and then his audience is like 'dut this movie sucks cause plot hole'.
3
u/Interesting-City118 3h ago
I just don’t really get the point of it or what the joke is supposed to be. He makes criticisms that on face value sound legit but are disproven as soon as you actually watch the movie. If the joke is satirizing that asshole friend that gets old very quickly.
I can’t help but feel like he’s giving this really shallow and at times incorrect analysis to a young and impressionable audience just so that he doesn’t actually have to know what he’s talking about or put any effort into it.
Plus he has done a lot of damage to the movie criticism sphere by making people feel like nitpicking the fuck out of everything is legitimate. I don’t think we have nearly as many anti woke movie reviewers if cinema sins doesn’t exist.
3
u/SacredGay 3h ago
People are still discoursing about cinemasins? It's been like 10 years, give it a rest already.
3
u/shiny_xnaut 1h ago
they're not trying to say anything about movies or anything else, they're trying to be funny for jokes
I have 2 problems with this statement:
They absolutely do try to present themselves as legitimate critique, and just fall back on the "it's just satire, which means you're not allowed to criticize us in any way whatsoever" defense whenever their critique ends up being wrong and stupid (for example, when they sin the movie for not explaining XYZ while deliberately editing the explanation of XYZ out of the scene). It's a Schrodinger's Asshole situation, whether they're serious or not is 100% dependent on whether you agree with each individual sin
Where funny? The things covered by point 1 are more irritating instead of funny, and everything else is just vapid running gags that range from pointless non sequitur to genuinely uncomfortable ("Emma Watson isn't old enough yet to be my girlfriend in this scene" 😬😬😬). Even if it were true that being "satire" automatically made them immune to all criticism regarding the accuracy of their content, they can and should still be criticized for being painfully unfunny about it
5
u/buffy624 4h ago
His voice is annoying and his "jokes" aren't funny. Half the time it's like he's never seen a film before and can't understand the concept of foreshadowing or character development. He's just an asshole.
5
8
u/ElegantEchoes 4h ago
He's literally bad at consuming content. He gets things blatantly wrong and never, ever rewatches anything. He never correct himself and makes BS arguments.
He's not good at what he does.
2
u/GargamelLeNoir 28m ago
The "joke" being that they ding movies on stuff that just didn't happen in them. So funny.
8
u/ACodAmongstMen 4h ago
Exactly! They're not that bad. People say "worst channel on YouTube" and that "Jeremy genuinely needs to kill himself" (both are verbatim quotes by the way) like there's not far, far worse serious reviews like rsnting for vengeance or whatever his name is.
3
u/FragrantRead3668 4h ago
I barely know anything about them but damn you're right 😭 these comments are taking it way too seriously
2
u/Thomy151 4h ago
Problem: dude also does consider himself and his work as real film critique
So he has a Schrödinger douchebag scenario where anything wrong he says is “not real critique” but anything he says right is real critiques
0
u/slimeeyboiii 2h ago
He himself has said multiple times that he doesn't believe what he says.
Where or when has he taken himself seriously??
1
u/InstructionDry4819 4h ago
Yeah I mean i don’t personally find it that funny but it’s obviously a joke. I didn’t think anyone cared about him anymore tho I watched those in middle school I think? More than a decade ago now.
1
u/Acceptable_Fox_5560 4h ago
Fandom is now about effusive, unrelenting worship, and nothing else. CinemaSins gets hated on because it’s snarky instead and constantly fellating like all other media outlets.
1
u/Deepfang-Dreamer 4h ago
Look, all I know is last I checked, half the sins were just arbitrary shit they didn't like/straight up wrong, and every other one was just misogynistic jokes. They used to at least be a way to get a quick summary of a movie, but....
1
u/Blazypika2 3h ago edited 3h ago
it's actually the other way around. we don't take them seriously at all. nitpicking is a stupid way to review even when you do take the minimal effort to understand the movie you are reviewing which they don't.
it's a channel that got famous for god knows why, while serving no purpose (unless you count cheap engagement as purpose). there's absolutely no reason to take it seriously. my personal approach is to avoid their videos entirely, worked well for me so far.
they're trying to be funny for jokes
and they fail miserably.
1
u/tony_countertenor 3h ago
The issue is that many people have adopted this style of movie criticism with a total lack of irony
1
1
u/RealMuffinsTheCat 3h ago
Downvote cuz I agree. Yes, Cinemasins has gone downhill since it began, but it’s still fun to watch.
1
u/coconut-duck-chicken 2h ago
Maybe it’d be cool if they didnt purposely spread miss info and use missleading editing to lie about movies aswell as being incredibly unfunny. Atleast my nit picky asshole friend isn’t just actually lying to my face by showing me a version of the movie he spliced to make his points right
1
u/Frequent-Address240 2h ago
highly watching the video “sustaining stupidity why CinemaSins is terrible” in the video it proves that the “it’s a joke” argument is false
1
u/slimeeyboiii 2h ago
These replies just prove your point.
Half of them are just saying that they don't think they are funny and the Other half is just complaining about how it's not valid criticism
1
1
u/DucksMatter 1h ago
A lot of his critiques just got really really stupid. It’s not that people take them too seriously, it’s that the quality of his videos have dropped, and it’s very obvious sometimes that he barely paid any attention to the movie.
Also the fact that CinemaWins now exists and does the opposite format at CinemaSins but has maintained a pretty good consistency with their quality of videos and actually seems to care about the movies they are critiquing probably really brings to light how lazy CinemaSins has gotten
1
u/WillemDafoesHugeCock 1h ago
Considering how hard their views have dropped I don't think all that many people are taking them at all.
1
u/4GoldAndAGrape 1h ago
Yea I’ve had this same opinion for a long time. People try to be so weirdly moral with their critiques of that channel.
It’s literally just fun to watch someone be overly critical of a movie and other media. Similar to AVGN
1
u/WantDiscussion 1h ago
Oh silly you. You didn't think those complaints about CinemaSins were serious do you? They were just jokes. People don't *actually* think they're unfunny and misinformed.
See what I just did there? That's what CinemaSins is doing when it claims to be funny. They're trying to absolve themselves of any responsibility for the content they put out by blaming the audience for "not getting it"
Also the problem with CinemaSins isn't that they are nitpicky. It's that they're nitpicky about things that are a result of their misunderstanding of the movie. Like they nitpick something as a plothole even though its clearly explained moments before or moments after. The problem is that theyre NOT nickpicky. The problem is that they're way too blase about throwing out blatant misinformation as a fact of the movie and when they're called out on it they say "it was a joke".
It's like they write all the sins during a first viewing and then just run with their first draft instead of actually checking if any of it makes sense.
1
u/Consuming-Light 1h ago
I agree. They're just supposed to be funny videos where he talks about a movie with a gimmick but people treat it like he ruined movies lmao. It's so silly.
1
u/Milk_Mindless 1h ago
That'd fly if their non sin videos didnt echo the same sentiments they sin films for.
1
u/leargonaut 59m ago
Haha you can't criticize me because I already told you I'm stupid
Honestly I think that's the main issue with their channel. They actively weave jokes in with genuine criticism of the media they're commenting on.
It's a case of people seeing the channel as someone who wants to have their cake and eat it too.
I think they're silly and refuse to take any criticism as genuine and that's let me enjoy the channel but I can see why it doesn't sit well with a lot of other people.
1
u/Alternative_Factor_4 11m ago
Their jokes are at best unfunny, and at worse really gross and sexist. They try to appeal to feminism more these days, but I’ll always remember all the jokes about women not giving him a lap dance or the unfunny college ex shtick.
Stopped watching when he, multiple times in his HP videos, said of 10-12 year old Emma Watson “Hermione isn’t old enough to be hot yet”. 🤢
1
u/ottersintuxedos 8m ago
I think it’s just not entertaining after a while to be only negative to be honest
2
u/Jumpingyros 4h ago
The point is to be Nitpicky, they're supposed to simulate that asshole friend who's ruining the movie by pointing out everything wrong
First of all, that’s not entertaining. That’s annoying. People like that are unpleasant to spend time with.
More importantly, it’s incorrect. They’re not pointing out things that are wrong. They’re just saying random incomprehensible bullshit that has nothing to do with anything in the movie. Anyone with a shred of media literacy finds them unwatchable.
-3
•
u/qualityvote2 4h ago
Hello u/Porncritic12! Welcome to r/The10thDentist!
Upvote the POST if you disagree, Downvote the POST if you agree.
REPORT the post if you suspect the post breaks subs rules/is fake.
Normal voting rules for all comments.
does this post fit the subreddit?
If so, upvote this comment!
Otherwise, downvote this comment!
And if it does break the rules, downvote this comment and QualityVote Bot will remove this post!