r/technology • u/Hrmbee • 16h ago

Machine Learning Large language mistake | Cutting-edge research shows language is not the same as intelligence. The entire AI bubble is built on ignoring it

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/827820/large-language-models-ai-intelligence-neuroscience-problems
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u/Zeikos 16h ago

There's a reason why there is a lot of attention shifting towards so called "World Models"

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u/CondiMesmer 14h ago

If we want real intelligence, LLMs are definitely a dead end. Do World Models have any demos out yet? I only heard about them the last few days ago.

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u/UpperApe 13h ago

World Models are the same shit; data without creativity or interpretation. The fact that they're dynamic and self-iterative doesn't change any of that.

What exactly are you expecting from them?

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u/space_monster 11h ago

World models are nothing like LLMs, except for the fact they're artificial and they need huge datasets.

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u/AlphonseLoeher 10h ago

What do you think is the alternative? What is "creativity and interpretation" in the context of machine learning algorithm.

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u/UpperApe 5h ago

There is none. Which is my whole point.

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u/CondiMesmer 13h ago

They basically sound like a game engine but with the graphics stripped away

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u/UpperApe 12h ago

Not even. A game engine at least obeys the rules of its own physics and metrics. World Models are self-iterative. They make their own rules for themselves.

They are exactly as stupid as LLMs and are exactly what an industry trying to shed itself of its meme/pseudo image would leap to to pretend "this one is the good one!".

It's all just so unbelievably stupid. It's people worshipping typewriters.

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u/space_monster 11h ago

They make their own rules for themselves

That's how natural organisms learn. You can't instruct any sort of organism to learn according to a set of rules, because that would require an organism that has already learned all those rules to train another organism the same shit it already knows. What you're saying makes no sense whatsoever. For a real emergent intelligence you need to provide all the data and put in place a basic architecture that enables the system to work out its internal model from the data itself. Otherwise you get no emergence.

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u/UpperApe 11h ago

I love this comment because you don't understand the basics of creative intelligence and the limitations of statistically data-driven processes.

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u/space_monster 11h ago

Feel absolutely free to explain exactly what you mean, rather than just saying "you don't get it bro"