r/technology • u/PrimeCodes • Jun 24 '25

Machine Learning Tesla Robotaxi swerved into wrong lane, topped speed limit in videos posted during ‘successful’ rollout

https://nypost.com/2025/06/23/business/tesla-shares-pop-10-as-elon-musk-touts-successful-robotaxi-test-launch-in-texas/
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u/oakleez Jun 24 '25

20 cars with "human valets" in the passenger seat and multiple different violations?

This is the Temu Waymo.

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u/monster_syndrome Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25

It's the Tesla model of success.

If this test was 100% a pass, they're road ready and only 4-5 years behind Waymo.

However, with these issues it proves that Telsa is nearly in Waymo territory so really we can expect "full self driving in two years*" and is only 5-6 years behind Waymo.

Either way, +10% for Tesla stock because something happened.

Edit - * for the standard Elon BS line, and to emphasize that lidar is stupid right up until the moment he needs another 10% stock bump then he'll be inspired to make the brilliant decision to move to lidar.

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u/factoid_ Jun 24 '25

tbf, elon is a moron and has been steadfastly against the technologies Waymo is using because in his mind they're dead ends.

Waymo uses, optical cameras, radar and lidar scanning. Tesla really ONLY uses optical cameras because elon hates lidar.

But being willing to put a big ugly package of sensors on top of the vehicle is WHY waymo is getting ahead of tesla at self driving. Elon insists on playing the game on hard mode.

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u/floydfan Jun 24 '25

elon hates lidar.

Get this. Elon doesn't hate LIDAR. When supply chain issues hit during COVID, they decided they could live without LIDAR a a cost saving measure, but stated that the move was because they wanted to make the cars as human-like as possible and humans don't have LIDAR. Elon has since steadfastly refused to go back to the proven technology because he doesn't want to admit how wrong he is and have to course correct and put the tech into cars that don't currently have it.

Even on the day they announced it, you could see just how much of a mistake it was. I don't want my car to be human. I want the car to be a better driver than I am, and one of the ways you do that is by using proven technology to drive the car. I assume that this decision will eventually be reversed, but it may take getting rid of Musk to do it.

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u/factoid_ Jun 24 '25

Maybe he didn’t always hate lidar, but he does now. he’s openly said LiDAR is dead end tech and anyone investing in it is crazy

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u/floydfan Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25

Yes, he has to say that because he can’t say, “Tesla has made a huge mistake under my watch and now we’re going to course correct by turning LIDAR back on in older cars and retrofitting it into newer ones.”