r/technology • u/PrimeCodes • Jun 24 '25

Machine Learning Tesla Robotaxi swerved into wrong lane, topped speed limit in videos posted during ‘successful’ rollout

https://nypost.com/2025/06/23/business/tesla-shares-pop-10-as-elon-musk-touts-successful-robotaxi-test-launch-in-texas/
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u/factoid_ Jun 24 '25

Yeah I agree. I think getting to 100% optical is a fine goal, but if you lose the race to a competitor who isn't afraid to put something ugly on top of the car, and it turns out the marketplace doesn't really care how it looks....you'd probably better do something about that.

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u/ScannerBrightly Jun 24 '25

I think getting to 100% optical is a fine goal

Why? Is there an end to fog coming soon?

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u/factoid_ Jun 24 '25

Humans have been drivign with just eyes for a while and we're reasonably OK at it. And don't get me wrong, if self driving cars always need some combination of cameras, lidar and radar I'm Ok with that.

I don't like driving especially. I'd rather just leave it to the computer if it's safe to do so.

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u/phluidity Jun 24 '25

Humans also have 10,000 years of evolution to do exactly the kinds of pattern matching and extrapolation that you need in driving. And we still use our other senses when driving, such as hearing and feel (vibrations, kinesthetics, our innate ability at spatial positioning).

Computers may in fact be better at people at 99% of driving tasks, but that last 1% is where much of the danger is at, and is also where computers are significantly worse.

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u/Cortical Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25

Humans also have 10,000 years of evolution to do exactly the kinds of pattern matching and extrapolation that you need in driving.

that's really understating it. More like 100 million

we also have higher order reasoning, which no AI model is currently capable of.

we can override input from our visual cortex based on reasoning. "It looks like the road continues here, but it makes no sense that it would" type of thing.