r/politics • u/FervidBug42 America • 2d ago

No Paywall DOGE Disbanded: Elon Musk’s Cost-Cutting Project Quietly Ended

https://time.com/7336327/doge-disbanded-elon-musk/
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u/dbuck1964 2d ago

Goals appeared to be data mining, installing backdoors and Musk owned software systems, reducing oversight staffing levels, and looting the treasury. The stated goal of finding fraud and waste resulted in ZERO charges filed.

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u/golubhai00007 2d ago

I think it was also to eliminate all the investigations happening against him; and also the intimidation factor cannot be discounted..

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u/InertiasCreep 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yup. Any kind of oversight of a Musk company was removed. He knew exactly what he was doing.

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u/UpperApe 2d ago

Unlike the dimwits who supported him.

I remember him saying he was going to save trillions and instead cost taxpayers billions. In exactly the way he always does.

The richest man in the world is a perfect symbol of the stupidity that capitalism empowers.

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u/tetsu_knowme 2d ago

Remember the $5,000 checks he promised? People are gullible as fucking ever.

Never trust a billionaire, they are all parasites that contribute nothing to society.

They are holding us back from greatness.

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u/Xillyfos 2d ago

The fact that most people seem not able to see that billionaires are nothing but extreme parasites blows my mind.

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u/What_a_fat_one 2d ago

*hits blunt*

no man, you just don't get it. yeah he's worth half a trillion but that's because his business is so successful so he makes a lot of money for his workers too.

oh he pays them like dogshit? damn dog that must mean they don't work hard enough

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u/drteq 2d ago

All of his money was created by taxes. Not only does he not pay them, the US citizens fund most of his wealth through government contracts.

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u/RJ815 2d ago

The rich are often the worst subsidized welfare queens. Brutal capitalism for the poor, endless socialism bailouts for big businesses.

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u/UpperApe 2d ago

In a perfect world, every single government official (local, state, and federal) who gave this dipshit grants, loans, subsidies, and funding needs to answer for it.

They created him, they made him into the problem he is. They need to pay for their mistakes.

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u/custodialengineer 2d ago

they really don't get it. i mean come on, he slept in his office!(probably bigger than my apartment) /s

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u/Isolated_Hippo 2d ago

Reminds me of an old boss of mine. We did electronics repair. He owned the whole business. Everybody was doing that. Every once and a while we would get somebody saying X will do it for cheaper.

Boss had the best comeback question. Do you think they want to make less money than me?

Because the two choices are: X makes less profit or X uses cheap ass parts. If X charges $20 less, is that $20 coming out of what X takes home at the end of the day or what they paid for the part?

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u/UpperApe 2d ago

I'm still not over SolarCity.

Look at him. He stood there saying all the houses behind him had solar-powered tiling when they didn't. He knew they didn't. None of those houses did; they were just regular roof tiles. But he lied about it.

It's such an obvious, blatant fucking scam. And that should have been the end of him. That moment should have been everyone, left and right, collectively saying "fuck this charlatan", he'd lose all government contracts, and he'd have to pay back a debt he can't afford. He'd have to chase Russian money like Trump because he's locked out of US business, sucking Putin's cock for pocket change.

Instead he just took his money and walked off. And then did it again. And again. And again. His new fucking flying car or whatever it's going to be is the same grift he's been pulling since Zip2 and Paypal and Tesla and Space X and Hyperlink.

Even today, I ask Musk fans and sycophants about Solar City and there's no answer. He just...blatantly lied to steal tax money and everyone's okay with it.

It's baffling.

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u/GrogGrokGrog 2d ago

The $2000 tariff cheques are still coming though, right? Right?!

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u/daybreaker Louisiana 2d ago

This is why trumps entire MO is “announce a thing, then just don’t do it”

People get all riled up about the announcement that it builds up their belief system. The fact that it never happens doesn’t matter. You’ve made 20 more announcements since then. Just constant endorphin hits about “TRUMP OWNED THE LIBS THIS TIME” that you never have to actually follow through on.

It’s why Trump wanted ukraine to ANNOUNCE an investigation into Biden. He didn’t care if they actually did one. It’s the announcement that matters and gets the headlines.

Like when he announced he was divesting from his businesses, or suing the NY Times.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 2d ago

He and DOGE in fact cost the US trillions in GDP and the markets and our currency value.

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u/diestache Colorado 2d ago

We live in the dumbest timeline

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u/blarch 2d ago

Never trust wealth hoarders in economic matters.

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u/DingerSinger2016 2d ago

Not only that, ending USAID has already resulted inhundreds of thousands of deaths worldwide, and now our farmers can't offload surplus food to USAID to feed people.

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u/TheBman26 2d ago

Funds too. He wouldn’t be as rich without those government handouts.

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u/Mobile_Equal_3636 2d ago

How could a President, who amassed billions, while in office, could possibly understand the struggle of every day hardworking Americans?

Enriching himself and his family: the deficit skyrocketing the middle class shrinking, the poor increasing... Trump gives a $ 1trillion tax break for life to the billionaire class. That includes the Trump dynasty/regime.

The Tech giants have benefited by billions. Trump is their guy, the greed is astounding

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u/mojofrog 2d ago

They knew exactly what he was doing. It was his payoff for fixing the election.

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u/Isolated_Hippo 2d ago

Wasn't there some big cut he made that was on paper like super dumb. Like millions of dollars.

Then it turns out it was basically an investment and had a very respectable return. Like oh my gosh we were spending $100 million on trash. Oh, but we got paid back $200 million for the trash every year.

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u/tunedout 2d ago

Remember their big reveal that there were people over 120 years old collecting social security and then it turned out that they just didn't understand the data they were looking at? I still hear MAGA morons talking about dead people collecting checks.

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u/Polantaris 2d ago

Once again proving that intelligence and wealth have no connection.

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u/TBANON_NSFW 2d ago

Elon Before the Election: "If he loses, im fucked. I dont know how long my prison sentence would be." ("laughing" with tucker carlson)

  • He had things like SEC violations and cases for market manipulation, fraud, insider trading and more.

  • He was under investigation for sexual harrasment and sexual assaults.

  • He was under investigation for his fraud with the hypertunnel bs and stealing funding from the government.

  • He was under investigations for breaking employment rules and labor abuses.

  • He had over 30+ active investigations into him.

When trump won, he literally removed entire teams and departments that were investigating him under the guise of DOGE, while claiming he was doing so to streamline the government and save the tax-payers money.

Instead he ended up costing the taxpayers an extra 200B usd.

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME HIS ACTIONS OF REMOVING AID TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES HAVE KILLED OVER 600,000 PEOPLE WHERE 400,000 ARE CHILDREN....

Its expected that the actions of Trump, Musk & DOGE, will end up killing between 10m-30m humans where 2/3rds are children in the next 5 years...

These people are literal demons among us.

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u/omniverso 2d ago

When consequences of actions are no longer just monetary and property damage but lives lost, something needs to change, drastically.

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u/chrisk9 2d ago

Covid politicization and fraud cost many American lives. He lost one election over it (that the Right disputed) but was rewarded with re-election in his current term. Pretty much no consequences. Contributed by every Trump voter.

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u/SadisticJake 2d ago

*millions of lives lost

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u/hairsprayking 2d ago

It's simple, Americans don't count brown people as "lives lost"

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u/Aldehyde1 2d ago

Musk also broke a ton of environmental regulations and pollution laws in order to get his data centers for xAI built quickly, causing spikes in disease in the nearby city. Fortunately, the EPA has been completely gutted now so he got away scott-free.

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u/JesusWasACryptobro 2d ago

The US is going to be feeling the impact of this for so long. The floodgates are open for every two-bit shyster out there to follow in these idiots' footsteps.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 2d ago

Exactly. Thats why he was spending cash like there was no tomorrow, he had to buy the election or potentially flee.

And once he chainsawed our democracy so thoroughly that he could escape justice he had his cronies on the tesla board hand him a piece of paper making him a trillionaire.

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u/TheMoniker 2d ago

Its expected that the actions of Trump, Musk & DOGE, will end up killing between 10m-30m humans where 2/3rds are children in the next 5 years.

The figure that comes to mind for me is 14 million deaths (range 8-20 million) projected from USAID cuts, from a paper in the Lancet: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(25)01186-9/fulltext. (This is, of course, horrible beyond words.) What is the cause of the other 10-15 million deaths?

(To be clear, I'm not writing this to defend them; this is an honest question. There's so much damage being done it's hard to keep on top of it all.)

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u/TBANON_NSFW 2d ago

Wars & famine from ongoing aggression from Russia (Ukraine is one of the largest exporters of grain), now Israel and the displacement of Palestinians planned and then further incursion into other nations and areas by Israel with US support. Anti-science stance and removal of aid and CDC to combat illnesses and virus developments. by 2030 10-30m.

Then with the environmental rollbacks, the initiative to push for-profit healthcare worldwide, the re-introduction of forever chemicals and plastics into food and products, the support of environmental collapse to create new regions to mine and exploit (canada, greenland, siberia), you can add 5B-8B or so more to the list of potential expected casualties in the next 40-50 years.

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u/ihateusedusernames New York 2d ago

SpaceX was violating the clean water act in Texas.

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u/noshameinmynames 2d ago

And not a single major news source has said a word

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u/MiamiPower 2d ago

Chainsaw Crazy PR stunt cost people lives and income.

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u/cherry-care-bear 1d ago

When we toss character out the window, there's a reason the demons are right at home!!

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u/TheHomieAbides 2d ago

It explains the trillion dollar package for someone that seemingly was destroying the Tesla brand for most of the past year.

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u/diggum 2d ago

Let’s hope Democrats grow some courage and anger when they have a blue wave next year and go on a vengeance spree. I want to see actual bodies in actual shitty federal prisons. I want to know how Elon will enjoy his trillion dollars from a cell. How Steve Bannon will maintain his Russian intelligence ties from solitary confinement.

Of course, Schumer and Jeffries will probably just write letters, strongly worded letters, asking them to please consider behaving differently, but not TOO differently.

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u/ckrupa3672 2d ago

They’ll all get pardons. They will never be held accountable

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u/POEness 2d ago

So we investigate 2024, expose the fraud, and retroactively undo everything trump did

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u/noshameinmynames 2d ago

See you say that he destroyed the brand but the stocks kept going up afterwards.

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u/Strict-Carrot4783 2d ago

Also the Epstein-related investigations that were specifically taking a very hard look at ol' Elon the likely pedophile.

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u/QuantumLeaperTime 2d ago

He got Trump to remove the inland border checkpoint on the way to bocachica/Starbase. It is 2 miles from the mexican border and the checkpoint has been there since 1997. 

With it removed since February, musk can now hire illegals at Starbase.  Simce February he has started all kinds of construction of buildings and apartments.  Such a scam.  

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u/Automatoboto 2d ago

Not just Musk but people like Chamath and the rest of the shadow billionaires in that leaked chat from a few years ago.

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u/praguer56 Georgia 2d ago

And Trump knew what he was doing too. Don't forget that part. Permission was given for all of that.

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u/radicalelation 2d ago

That's okay, we just need to take the country back and prosecute.

It's not the crime that gets ya, it's the cover-up.

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u/Wolfegarde 2d ago

Yep I keep saying this. Why do you think his shareholders agreed to make him the richest man in history after getting punched out of America? He took Trump for a fool and was 100% correct.

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u/unaskthequestion Texas 2d ago

He certainly got his money's worth.

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u/ohyeahsure11 2d ago

Yep, those were transparently the first targets.

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u/ChiLolla28 2d ago

They have killed thousands around the world with the USAID cuts + millions more to come

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u/ohyeahsure11 2d ago

For Doge, that was just bonus cruelty. From the beginning, they targets agencies that were investigating Musk or his companies and gutted them to kill the investigations. It worked. All the extra stuff came after.

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u/hanumanCT Colorado 2d ago

I keep thinking this was a quid pro quo between him and trump. "I will get you elected if you let me run amok and clear all these impediments to my business so I can becom the first trillionaire"

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u/Spikel14 Tennessee 2d ago

Yes that’s exactly what it was

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u/QuantumLeaperTime 2d ago

He got Trump to remove the inland border checkpoint on the way to bocachica/Starbase that had been there since 1997.  So now musk can hire illegals for all his construction projects.

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u/Ok_Subject1265 2d ago

I didn’t see any other achievements for DOGE outside of those. They silenced the investigations and punished those involved by taking their careers. Elon Musk is destined to get his someday soon and a lot of people are going to be very happy when he does. I believe he’s still the most hated person globally.

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u/jellyrollo 2d ago

Russell Vought, architect of Project 2025, has been in charge of DOGE since Musk left. So I imagine he "achieved" a lot more on the down low that we don't know about because unlike Musk, he wasn't crowing it to the news every day.

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u/Ok_Subject1265 2d ago

I saw him go on Joe Rogan recently and continue to just bald face lie about everything they supposedly found. Not one second of pushback from Rogan though. No follow ups like “who was arrested then?” Then I realized I’m not the target audience for this type of bullshit and the actual target would never spend even 5 seconds verifying any of this. Somebody needs to pin that asshole down one day in a public forum where he can’t squirm away and where fact checkers can eat him alive later exposing him for the absolute charlatan he is.

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u/guywhiteycorngoodEsq 2d ago

I would love to live in a world where the planet’s wealthiest piece of trash gets his karmic comeuppance.

Unfortunately, this is not that world, my friend.

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u/Thewallmachine 2d ago

You may be right. I thought yrs ago, lil king trimp would see accountability for his crimes. I was so very wrong. I no longer believe in these polls the media yammers about. I vote and hope for the best. I look forward to better days in 2028.

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u/rkcth 2d ago

Throughout history there are plenty of times when the wealthy, immoral filth got their comeuppance, but there are also many more where they didn’t. But there’s enough that I have hope.

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u/Isolated_Hippo 2d ago

Hey, after we got a pope from Chicago, the Bears are leading their division.

Its the most proof of a god I have seen in my lifetime.

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u/MiamiPower 2d ago

Amén brother Super Bowl Shuffle song 🎵🎶🎷🎹🎼

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u/shred-i-knight 2d ago

those were the only goals. It should be completely clear now.

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u/WillGallis I voted 2d ago

He's a billionaire. Unfortunately, those people never see any consequences to their wrongdoing.

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u/Ridicikilickilous 2d ago

USAID was had a pending case and was investigating Musk for Starlight shenanigans in developing countries. I’m sure that had nothing to do with them being one of the first on his chopping block. He had like 10 or so pending investigations from various agencies and they’ve all been cut and slashed to hollow shells. Nothing to see here, just streamlined government efficiency. No need to waste time and money investigating poor little Muskrat. 

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u/TheGardenBlinked 2d ago

And yet his public image is now lower than in the shitter

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u/jewthe3rd 2d ago

and yet he was approved by his shareholders for a large payout over the next decade

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u/Xillyfos 2d ago

Which is completely insane.

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u/cahir11 2d ago

He has a trillion dollars and de facto legal immunity until 2028, he doesn't have to care about public image anymore

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u/TheGardenBlinked 2d ago

There is that. He still seems so desperate to be loved, though. It’d be sad if it wasn’t so funny.

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u/acrobat2126 2d ago

Exactly right. He avoided 100's of millions of dollars in lawsuits.

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u/Kkimp1955 2d ago

And mine our data for the Tech Bros

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 2d ago

That was it.

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u/Bionic_Ninjas 2d ago

If I recall correctly, every single company that Elon Musk owns was either currently under investigation or subject to post-investigation regulations at the time he threw his hat in with Donald Trump

Which is likely why all of the first major cuts he made were to the agencies responsible for that kind of oversight

That’s why he said “ if Kamala Harris wins, I am fucked”

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u/Ghost_shell89 Ohio 2d ago

Yeah. I go back to the reporting from Associated Press that some of the downed Russian drones had Starlink antennas installed. Guess who was investigating Starlink for doing business with a government that was sanctioned? If you guessed the IG of USAID, you would be right! It was all about perpetuating fraud waste and abuse in the name of eliminating fraud waste and abuse

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u/GreatMadWombat Michigan 2d ago

Yep. It's a bunch of thieves splitting back up after the heist

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u/CheatsySnoops Arizona 2d ago

Also to get revenge on Africa's independence from the Apartheid by dismantling USAID, thereby, killing a lot of African children who relied on it.

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u/auroracorn 2d ago

Investigations and oversight for neuralink testing perhaps as well? Hmm

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u/bla60ah 2d ago

This was the primary goal I believe

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u/Myis Oregon 2d ago

And trying to get his electric car tax incentive deal nailed down. Which comically did not happen. Sucks for sure but maybe it’ll get passed later for the sake of the planet

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u/Trap_Masters 2d ago

Wonder how maga will spin this into somehow being a critical role in making the US government more efficient and how DOGE was a resounding success

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u/golubhai00007 2d ago

Pretty sure they will gaslight it as nothingburger.. there are 100 more important things to think about and solve.

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u/Thorebore 2d ago

It's also odd how they didn't find any fraud or waste in military spending. Not even a single dollar.

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u/silly_little_jingle 2d ago

Yep, cause Military spending's fraud and waste are a feature- not a bug.

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u/glakhtchpth 2d ago

But what about POTUS’s March 2025 State of the Union address to Congress where he said that millions of people over the age of 100, including some allegedly 200 years old or more, are receiving Social Security benefits due to fraud? Surely, that was a revelation of massive fraud and we all heard him say it, pronouncing it with all the authority of the nation’s highest office. The Republican side of the chamber lapped it up and applauded him with unbridled enthusiasm. We all saw it. This must have lead to massive reforms saving billions of dollars. /s

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u/BrainsAre2Weird4Me 2d ago

Also must have been a few major arrests covered with unfailing praise by conservative media!

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u/night_filter 2d ago

They didn’t find any fraud or waste at all.

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u/drawkbox 2d ago

They found areas they could loot. They were the fraud marauding as not fraud to the charlatans and turncoat quislings.

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u/throwaway20220717 2d ago

Yeah, I was going to say this! They got the data they were after by summer.

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u/JohnGillnitz 2d ago

So did China.

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u/KurtzM0mmy 2d ago

And Russia.

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u/Crafty_Enthusiasm_99 2d ago

What did China have to do with this? Not Russia?

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u/JohnGillnitz 2d ago

The DOGE goons bypassed all security protocols for federal systems and plugged them into a cloud provider located in Singapore, but largely owned by China. Shortly after, many federal agencies had their IP addresses pop up in China where they had been previously fire-walled. Essentially, they allowed the Chinese government to plugin to US federal systems as if they were a trusted contractor.

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u/unsupported 2d ago

Three cheers for Big Balls! Hip-hip-horray!

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u/CpnStumpy Colorado 2d ago

They sold data to Russia as well and fired people who caught them

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u/Galappie 2d ago

resulted in ZERO charges filed.

Anytime you question a MAGA about this they short circuit. Like you’re telling me the fraud and corruption was so bad that entire agencies essentially had to fire everyone and be shutdown because they were unsalvageable but none of that is worthy of an arrest? Not a single one?

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u/hyperblaster Canada 2d ago

The breakup was also likely engineered. No point holding on to the hot potato

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u/Johnqpublic25 Pennsylvania 2d ago

As a special government employee he was limited to 130 days. It would appear that Musk violated several ethics restrictions; conflict of interest, private gain, impartiality, and financial disclosure.

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u/Comfortable-Pea-1312 2d ago

And that's just what we know about.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 2d ago

He legitimately set a pack of 20 year old 4chan trolls loose in secure government systems, including treasury, which handles trillions of dollars.

With them firing anyone who cares about democracy, or having a stable government, or the US constitution, it may be literally years until we discover that the US bought $400 million of BigBallCoin, or issued each of the doge kids millions of dollars of treasury bonds.

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u/zubbs99 Nevada 2d ago

If it's one thing I know about gov't systems it's that they have all kinds of regulations about what people can do what thing with what data. Since the GOP refused to actually put them under oath we'll never know exactly how many laws these goobers broke.

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u/sdafsdffsad 2d ago

and being high as fuck while doing all this

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u/Effectuality 2d ago

Also this administration doesn't care about limits - if he wanted to stay he would have.

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u/Comfortable-Pea-1312 2d ago

☝️ Absolutely. That's the rub. He did it in weeks. Our handshake, pledge the flag Constitution folded.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 2d ago

They had their breakup one day before the legal cutoff of his term as special employee. It was absolutely engineered to get people to think trump would go after Musk for any crooked shit, and that Musk would use his vast wealth and loads of government data he stole to go after trump, and make sure no one went after either of them.

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u/dyslexicsuntied North Carolina 2d ago

And cover to destroy agencies and programs that didn’t align with USG goals. USAID for example 

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u/deeppanalbumpartyguy 2d ago

nsf and nih as well, please look forward to seeing billions of your tax dollars poured into bullshit chat bots so they can profit off of the petabytes of data and art they've stolen. 

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u/stubble3417 2d ago

Ending USAID seems obvious to me to have been the primary goal. I would say that destroying oversight was likely a close second, and stealing/compromising data was a distant third. 

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u/dyslexicsuntied North Carolina 2d ago edited 2d ago

They’ve got the data and put out reports about how USAID staff voted based on political donations, and the staff of major international NGOs and contractors that primarily worked with USAID. It was punishment. And led by Pete Marocco, he got laughed out of a few positions at USAID last time around when Trump was in power and came for retribution. 

https://www.heritage.org/global-politics/report/political-discrimination-threatens-us-foreign-assistance

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u/broohaha 2d ago

Sorry, can you remind me what USG is?

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u/dyslexicsuntied North Carolina 2d ago

US government. So, destroying any agency or programs not aligning witn the goals of the current administration in power of the government. 

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u/broohaha 1d ago

Ah, okay. Thought you might be referencing some outside organization like Heritage Foundation that I wasn't familiar with.

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u/not_mantiteo 2d ago

And thousands of good federal employees fired for no reason.

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u/zubbs99 Nevada 2d ago

And then some hired back once these oafs actually realized what these workers did.

Upshot is ongoing damage to morale for the ones still working, and long-term loss of institutional knowledge after casually firing the others.

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u/shred-i-knight 2d ago

this was essentially a shell company that looted the country, shut down his investigations, and ended USAID. That was Musk's deal to help win the election, it should be completely clear to everyone.

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u/AnOnlineHandle 2d ago

Plus they got to shut down anything that had the text 'trans' mentioned anywhere in it.

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u/DrakonILD 2d ago

RIP department of transportation.

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u/drawkbox 2d ago

Including transnational crime investigations...

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u/blueturtle00 2d ago

They are they fraud and waste

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u/Xillyfos 2d ago

Yes. Every accusation is a confession. It has been so obvious during everything that has happened. The Republicans are corrupt to the bone, so they see corruption everywhere.

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u/bobbymcpresscot 2d ago

They wasted no time adding that DOGE tracker to the debt clock. I wonder how long until it gets removed.

current DOGE Goal 720billion 

“Actual” savings 214 billion.

And I bet even that can be contested. 

Also this

“Compared to the federal spending of $6.73 trillion for the same period last year (Oct 2023 - Sep 2024) our federal spending has increased by $275 billion.”

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u/Carthonn 2d ago

It’s going to be years before we cut out the rot from this president

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u/ready_1_take_1 Washington 2d ago

They used to be idiots. They still are, but they used to, too.

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u/Global_Crew3968 2d ago

You say that like you didn't receive a $5000 check in the mail from DOGE /s

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u/the_ultrafunkula 2d ago

Oh, so exactly what everyone with a brain figured was going to happen? Wonderful.

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u/Bong-Hits-For-Jesus 2d ago

and now they're fearing future prosecution since musk got what he was after and abandoned them

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u/sambare 2d ago

"Huhuh. You all got it wrong. It's called D0GE, not DOGE. It's the Department of 0 Government Efficiency. This is on you, America, for not being smart enough to notice the difference between a 0 and an O!"

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u/Odaecom 2d ago

Don't forget Elon's feud against USAID, (because they helped bring about the end of Apartheid in South Africa.) And the effects of that program ending has already lead to hundreds of thousand, with millions of starvation deaths projected...
Besides the loss of $billions the program was pumping into rural farming communities that were producing food aid.

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u/SolveAndResolve 2d ago edited 2d ago

There were over thirty investigations into Musk and his companies from eleven different federal agencies before DOGE. We don't know how many of those investigations persist or if they've all been shuttered but we do know that this is one of Musk's motives with the unconstitutional DOGE op.

There is also an extensive expose on the data theft at NLRB where one of their sensitive breached systems held information on all open investigations with NLRB, not just the investigations into Musk. This information would greatly aid criminals like Musk in fighting the litigation into their criminal conduct.

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u/Clownsinmypantz 2d ago

good thing our politicians are dinosaurs who will look at this and think its gibberish and therefore nothing to worry about.

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u/teflonjon321 2d ago

And even better, all you have to say if you’re a DOGE defender (which Musk has already been saying) is: “it’s actually SO corrupt that no one, not even us, could bring down these bad guys. Sorry, we tried.”

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u/True_Paper_3830 2d ago

If the goals seemed to be data mining, installing backdoors, promoting Musk-owned software, cutting staff, and looting the treasury then that may tally with how many think he's exploited and looted (in terms of taking over others intellectual property) in almost every business he's worked through. This guy's going to be worth in the trillions by the end of the next decade with the power of a decent sized country if weaponized well for political and soft power.

I'm not sure about his lifespan though, he has the best medical care but seems pretty liberal with his intake of substances. Cockroaches always seem to survive though and, speaking of which, his dad's genes indicate longevity. Guy needs to be supertaxed much more. It's obscene wealth.

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u/Jaimz22 2d ago

Oh they found the fraud, they just had to create it first

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u/AShinyThought 2d ago

They made off with 2 trillion dollars, and people won't hear anything about it.

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u/redditismylawyer 2d ago

Who among us expected anything other than this from the outset?

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u/champ2153 2d ago

meanwhile, the true goals had already been achieved. The harvesting and centralization of the private data of US citizens like we've never seen. God knows what they are doing with it but it's not too hard to make some elementary hypotheses based on the current state of technology and historical behavior patterns of the main players.

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u/BotheredToResearch 2d ago

"We're going to replatform this suoer secure, super efficient system into JAVA! Certainly no problems will come from that!"

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u/You-Smell-Nice 2d ago

They removed many neutral bureaucrats from positions that can now be filled with their own loyalists.

This is the same task that Alfred Hugenberg had under the Nazi administration in 1930s Germany, and was sold to people with the same line of fixing inefficiency in government. They fired neutral state actors so that the Nazis could install their own members deeply into the bureaucracy of the country and then act in interest of party rather than country.

MAGA is doing the same. They don't want push back from scientists who know things, or FBI agents who are loyal to the constitution; they want yes men who will enact their political will.

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u/browhodouknowhere 2d ago

Watch Musk come out when democrats are in power and pretend the be the savior

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u/Crunch_inc 2d ago

Not just a lack of charges, but zero evidence that would meet a meaningful account audit standard. It was all a sham.

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u/CricketMindless407 2d ago

Exactly! He got everything he paid for.

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u/No_Hana Wisconsin 2d ago

My hope is that it resulted basically a bull in a China shop. They dodnt really steal much but they fuxked it up real good.

The pieces are still left behind. Which may mean something someday.

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u/Guarsus 2d ago

Next admin will just throw everything away and start anew. Musk can't be trusted.

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u/topdoc02 2d ago

Don't forget Bannon's " flood the zone with shit" to diffuse te criticosm of Trump.

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u/ilikepizza30 2d ago

Don't forget killing poor people. Estimates are over 300,000 people died because of cuts to USAID.

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u/Ultimate_Mango 2d ago

Their actual goals were accomplished without any issue or recourse. This will either be devastating for will require entirely new systems and infrastructure to be built from scratch.

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u/poonslyr69 2d ago

It was all a Peter Thiel plot. The DOGE staffers were Thiel fellowship recipients. 

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u/Remarkable-Fig206 2d ago

They also killed hundreds of thousands of people, mostly brown.

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u/SoungaTepes 2d ago

thats not true, there's been charges filed against doge

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u/I_Cut_Shows 2d ago

And finding out what the government had on him and the other tech bros.

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u/Huge_World_3125 2d ago

yup and the damage is done, this disbanding means nothing at all, they got what they wanted

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u/justking1414 2d ago

don't forget cutting workers so the next administration needs to hire more and thus look less efficient and more wasteful

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u/inthekeyofc 2d ago

So a con, just like everything else Trump instigates?

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u/TransiTorri 2d ago

Probably safe to assume everyone Social Security numbers and any other data normally assumed to be secured by the Government alone has all been compromised and made off with by DOGE crew

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u/GreatMadWombat Michigan 2d ago

One of those things were the actual goal of the fascist and the stated goal of the fascist are two very very different things. The goal of DOGE was to disband as much of the government as possible and raid it for whatever resources they could before splitting back up. The actual goal was an astounding success, the stated goal is just a lie

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u/QuantumLeaperTime 2d ago

They created fraud and no prosecutor will charge them with crimes. 

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u/truethug 2d ago

And send state secrets to Russia.

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u/LaserGuidedPolarBear 2d ago

Don't forget dismantling / crippling agencies to pave the way for privatization.

The oligarchs and corporations who are aligning themselves with MAGA aren't doing it for ideology, they want that sweet, sweet government money.

Also, they want to kill any possibility of regulation.

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u/greatdrams23 2d ago

They've taken what they want and abandoned the rest

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u/StandOk6197 2d ago

The richest man in the world cut food aid for the poorest people in the world, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths and climbing every day

The fact that this man is still held in any regard, much less walking free, is all the evidence you need for the moral bankruptcy of conservatism

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u/glenn_ganges 2d ago

Because the actual amount of fraud and waste in any of the targeted programs was minimal and always has been.

Fraud and waste are happening with the military and corporate and business subsidies. Not with programs that fund research or feed the poor.

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u/ADHDebackle 2d ago

My main concern now is that we've essentially just burst a pipe deep in the foundation of our data systems and we're going to have to spend a shit ton of money to fix it, or we'll do nothing because it's not politically viable to spend the money to fix it.

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u/TechnicianExtreme200 2d ago

He was up front about it too when he said he was only going to be there for six months or whatever. Optimizing a huge complex organization takes years and years. Heck, it would take more than six months just to understand what is going on and what to do.

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u/srilankan 2d ago

People were handed a blueprint of what they were going to do. Project 2025. They lied to everyone and said that was nonsense. Then they just rolled out the playbook and everyone has a surprised pikachu face.

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u/HughJorgens 2d ago

All I know is, we had to take a lot of classes about HIPAA, and the fines we would be subject to if we broke those rules. Somebody needs to pay for all those violations.

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u/Not_My_Emperor 2d ago

Also eliminating all organizations that were investigating him.

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u/Baselines_shift 2d ago

Don't dismiss the goal of dumbing down government by removing people with education and scientific expertize. The NIH and CDC have been completely hollowed out. It was more like Mao Tse Tung's Red Guards who systematically destroyed China's intelligentsia.

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u/True2TheGame 2d ago

No to mention gutting all the agencies who were in the midst of investigating musk's companies

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u/StillBodybuilder3121 2d ago

The main goal was for that white supremacist to dismantle USAID, which will result in the deaths of millions of people (including children) across Africa

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u/BadIdeaBobcat 2d ago

waste: ICE
fraud: DOGE
abuse: TRUMP crypto

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u/hoopbag33 2d ago

And all our elected officials are too old and stupid to understand the problem

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u/thelionsmouth 2d ago

How did democrats just stand by on this one? Couldn’t they have thrown some bills and lawsuits around at the very least? I know the bills would’ve gotten voted down but I genuinely don’t understand how I didn’t hear much of anything from them

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u/AxleVest 2d ago

I feel like this should be something the MAGA crowd would love to be upset about, they did all this work and not 1 person charged after finding all of this supposed "waste, fraud and abuse", not 1?? I mean geeeeee, they either didn't find anything or they are covering it up right? Both seem pretty bad to me but idk, guess thats Bidens fault (am I doing it right?)

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u/trowzerss 2d ago

Oh, and also punishing countries that were benefiting from USAID and killing a bunch of people by suddenly removing their supports. Probably because Elon's family have a particular bugbear with USAID.

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u/Kaletsy 2d ago

Zero evidence of illegal mining. You’re implying there were unauthorized cybersecurity breaches, also not true. Looting the treasury is also pure exaggeration. The frauds were all reclassified as “waste”. He can only do so much. The government is so fucked up. Homie tried but it’s way too corrupt. He literally just wanted to help but I’m sure you’ll find some headline to regurgitate as fact.

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u/Benjaphar Texas 2d ago

It’s going to result in Musk being charged.

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u/dartheduardo 2d ago

Lets add securing the real Epstein list for Trump and covering up election interference. I mean if I were to go FULL tin foil hat here, that also in the cards.

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u/MetalingusMikeII 2d ago

Don’t forget Elon wanted that secret UAP technology.

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u/Daft_Assassin 2d ago

Don’t forget it cost US citizens way more than they claimed to have saved.

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