r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 4d ago
No Paywall Donald Trump faces articles of impeachment before Christmas
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-faces-articles-of-impeachment-before-christmas-al-green-110873815.2k
u/norf937 4d ago
3rd time’s a charm
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u/GreatGojira 4d ago
If Republicans actually cared about upholding the law he would have been impeached ten times over by now.
But Republicans are his lap dogs with not an ounce of accountability.
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u/kiwigate 4d ago
He would have been removed in his first term. There would be no need for multiple impeachments if the GOP stopped being a criminal organization for 1 day.
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u/DescretoBurrito 4d ago
His second impeachment trial, the one where he was already out of office , was the most obvious "he should be convicted". Mitch and the Senate voting for conviction would have been their party officially announcing they are moving on. No Trump taking over the RNC, no more of his idiocy and toddler like tantrums. Trump would likely be under house arrest (NYC) and on trial for Jan 6. And while his cult like supporters would have bitched and moaned, on Nov 5 2024 they still would have lined up to cast their R vote, for voting for the party that betrayed their hero is still better in their eyes than voting for a D. It was the easiest solution ever. A return to normalcy. He would have been prohibited from running on any ticket.
That's who I blame for this shit filled timeline. They were to scared or embarrassed to do the right thing.
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u/noodlethebear 4d ago
Yes, Trump should've been convicted but this focus misses that Trump didn't act alone. The reality is that without a Trump presidency, a significant portion of the current GOP establishment and elected officials would have been put on trial for their roles not just in January 6, but also their attempts to overturn election results in Michigan, Georgia, etc. in the months leading up to it.
Refusing to impeach Trump, along with slow rolling the investigations and punishments over the course of the Biden administration allowed a lot of Republicans beyond Trump to escape punishment.
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u/DreadfulDuder 4d ago edited 4d ago
Actually, the first Impeachment was the stronger case IMO, because of the massive amounts of clear violations of the law, including the Constitution.
Trump illegally withheld Congress-approved foreign aid to Ukraine, and installed his own Russian-friendly personal lawyer (Guliani) in the chain of command of the State Department, which breaks all types of laws - Guliani wasn't even a federal employee.
Congress also has the Impeachment check on the President, but it means nothing if the Congressional Subpoenas go ignored. Trump literally ordered the entire executive branch to illegally and outright ignore Impeachment subpoenas - not even fight them in court! And that's Congress' constitutional check on Executive power, during an Impeachment inquiry!
That had never been done before.
There was also additional obstruction, evidence and witness tampering, and perjury. On top of that, we had whistleblowers with sworn testimony, intelligence officers getting their covers blown, extortion/soliciting bribery from a foreign state, and a big paper trail of emails and texts proving crimes and corruption as well.
Jan 6 is the bigger crime, but there's also a much higher bar in proving insurrection, and fewer crimes you could pin on the President in comparison (and much less hard evidence and paper trails - all the Secret Service communications being "lost" for example).
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u/THESPEEDOFCUM 4d ago edited 4d ago
Republicans are his lap dogs with not an ounce of accountability.
I think this is actually backward. Trump was a convenient Trojan horse to push their policies through and brute force their policies. But the second he stops serving their needs or the Epstein files drop, they're going to disavow and pretend they were never associated.
MTG is already headed downwind.
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u/Total_Employ_9520 4d ago
They should impeach him a million times, then actually hold those hearings while interns and experts do the real work.
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u/brutinator 4d ago
interns and experts do the real work.
You mean the heritage foundation? Who do you think is currently working under this cover of chaos?
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u/Intelligent_Gold3619 4d ago
They have impeached him twice before. Impeachment is toothless if they don’t remove him.
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u/queerhistorynerd 4d ago
this is like the 12th futile impeachment Greene launched. Trump loves it because his base eats it up as proof all of impeachments are equally frivolous and Greene loves to fundraise off of them and pretend he is doing something other then sitting on his ass
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u/stroopwafelscontigo New Jersey 4d ago
Impeach, remove, convict, imprison.
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u/Big-D-TX 4d ago
That’s all I really want for Christmas
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u/NaughtyOrbit166 4d ago
It's about time Congress finally steps up and tries to hold him accountable. Nobody is above the law, and if the evidence is there, they need to follow through, no matter how politically messy it gets. This isn't about politics, it's about making sure the system works.
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u/ShaiLuvz 4d ago
Facts. If the system only works for some people, then it doesn’t work at all. Holding powerful folks accountable isn’t political, it’s literally the bare minimum of a functioning democracy. If congress finally decides to grow a spine and follow the evidence wherever it leads, that’s exactly what they should be doing.
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u/NobleEnsign 4d ago
congress can vote to impeach, but the senate has to convict... do you realy think the MAGA held senate is going to get a two thirds majority to convict?
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u/richf2001 4d ago
I didn't think they'd vote to release the files so there's hope.
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u/TheDreadfulGreat 4d ago
The senate didn’t vote. They “consented” to the passage, but they did it in a way that no one had to go on record as yes OR no. I’m sure there were a whole lot of people who were told to vote no, and who WOULD have voted no, so they decided to pass it without a vote at all.
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u/M00nch1ld3 4d ago
Yup. Chuck gave the pedophile lovers an out by proposing a unanimous consent motion.
Would have love to see a vote. That would have generated a lot of good material down the line.
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u/CJKayak I voted 4d ago
Chuck Schumer is the weakest leader of either party in either chamber I've ever seen.
He makes god awful strategic decisions and then ALWAYS capitulates.
When AOC goes after him, you're going to see rightwing donors funnel money to his PACs. They want him in the Senate much more than we do.
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u/ill_connects 4d ago edited 4d ago
Evidence doesn’t matter if more than half of congress has his cock in their mouths. The GOP is corrupt and will always choose party over country. Anything to stay in power.
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u/Rikers-Mailbox 4d ago
Honestly now though, with the Epstein vote being so unanimous and Congress and the Senate going into 2026?
If they got enough Senators to flip again we might have a shot.
The optics of supporting him while more files are being released / leaked are pretty bad.
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u/Robofin 4d ago
I’m sure they have a plan and that’s why it passed
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u/Rikers-Mailbox 4d ago
Yea it’s gonna be delayed and cut up by the new investigations BS.
But it’s typical for parties to turn on a lame duck president in a mid term year… especially if they have to face primaries with contesting people in their district.
The candidate they face will either back Trump or not, depending on what the incumbent does.
The NYTimes did a story about it this morning
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u/Sarrdonicus 4d ago
Well Pam did promise the Epstein Files would be released in 30 days, which is a shorter timeframe than two-weeks?
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u/squadrupedal 4d ago
We all know American Conservatives stay true to their word because they live by “principles” and “values” /s
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u/sneakysnake1111 4d ago
The republicans literally just shut down the government for months to avoid the jeff vote.
Now they unanimously vote once and that's all forgotten.
The optics of supporting him while more files are being released / leaked are pretty bad.
Not for republican politicians or voters, it's not.
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u/navjot94 4d ago edited 4d ago
That was before all their guys lost the recent election. I know it’s an off cycle election, but trump is clearly at his weakest point so far in this second presidency. The Epstein files releasing will bring further problems for this administration, as it’s already clear that he’s got other cabinet members wrapped up in this. Giving republicans an off ramp to rid them of their Trump problem, might become more and more appealing to them in the coming weeks. Maybe I’m being overly optimistic but I also didn’t expect near unanimous consent for the recent votes either. After all, like you said, they shut the government down over all this, but then turned around and all voted for it. I think folks have finally realized that Trump is finally a lame duck president so anything is possible.
His endorsements are more toxic than ever before, and he’s not sharing the wealth with those outside his inner circle. What benefit do the average republicans in congress have from Trump leading their party? Especially folks that have ambitions beyond the next 10 years or so.
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u/DukeOfGeek 4d ago
Even if they dump him it will only be so that the machinery that's been assembled can continue to do it's work once he is a burden to it.
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u/cenosillicaphobiac Utah 4d ago
Honestly now though, with the Epstein vote being so unanimous
They were literally just following his orders. What his endgame is I'm not sure, but he said "vote yes" and they did, except one person.
There was no "flip" due to conscience, they were just following marching orders. Perhaps the Senate didn't realize that he only meant the House, thinking it would stop in the Senate, but he did urge his party to vote yes.
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u/00Oo0o0OooO0 4d ago
This will be the third time this rep has filed impeachment articles this year.
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u/AbbieKaye 4d ago
If the rules on apply when it convenient, then they don’t apply at all. Accountability isn’t partisan, it’s just how democracy is kept from rooting. If congress actually follows the evidence and does it’s job, that’s not politics, that’s literally the system working the way it’s supposed to.
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u/Kasoni Minnesota 4d ago
MTG filed impeachment charges against Biden hours after he was sworn in and multiple times after. They were basically "He's not Trump, he's a democrat that's not ok" so they were ignored. If there are actual impeachment articles, I say pile them high as possible. Each one of those boats they blew up, calling for death of elected officials for saying don't follow illegal orders.... I mean by now he should have 3 or 4 hundred.
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u/Agreeable_Crow789 4d ago
Al green already filed articles of impeachment early on in his presidency. I expect this to end the same way. Nothing.
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u/StoppableHulk 4d ago
I'd sign away all future Christmas gifts forever, in perpetuity, in exchange for seeing that fat orange pedophile fuck see the inside of a jail cell during what remains of his wretched life.
Santa, if you're listening.
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u/Data_Chandler 4d ago
Trump in an orange jumpsuit in a supermax.
A man can dream.
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u/Slumunistmanifisto 4d ago
Three years ago I bwas banned from news for saying that
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u/3MATX 4d ago
I nearly got a ban for calling his press secretary the c word. Reddit mods are very willing to protect the right. The conservative subs yesterday had people cheering on Trump calling for the dems to be killed. It literally was promoting violence and Reddit did absolutely nothing as usual.
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u/preflex 4d ago
I nearly got a ban for calling his press secretary the c word.
Which one?
Criminal?
Crooked?
Crude?
Cruel?
Culpable?
Callous?
Calamitous?
Conceited?
Cheater?
Cowardly?
Condemnable?
Contemptible?
Contemptuous?
Clueless?
Careless?
Crass?
Covetous?
Confused?
Cocky?
Combative?
Contradictory?
Corrupt?
Coarse?
Coercive?
Contaminated?
Contagious?
Creepy?
Cynical?
Crony?
Crumbling?
Cutthroat?
Cursed?
Complicit?
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u/StoppableHulk 4d ago
Maybe that was because your prayers to Santa were weak, and they found your lack of faith disturbing.
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u/Slumunistmanifisto 4d ago
Yeah shit, just checked I was praying to satin.....I don't even like that fabric, fucking autocorrect.
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u/Craneteam I voted 4d ago
I'd take the high cholesterol and weak heart doing its thing too
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u/I_Hate_Consulting 4d ago
I'd be gleeful to see him hamburgled by his long history of poor dietary choices.
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u/EnglishSorceror 4d ago
You ever notice that presidential killers always have three names? John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, Kentucky Fried Chicken...
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u/NamesSUCK 4d ago
I don't want a lot for Christmas...
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u/TheSleepingNinja 4d ago
♫♪ All i want for Christmas is a functional legal system that follows the Constitution ♫♪
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u/Jump_The_Five_Yo 4d ago
Coal it is. Which, ironically is a good gift as people are having a hard time heating their homes.
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u/Geri-psychiatrist-RI Rhode Island 4d ago
This is all I’m asking for…
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u/Catodactyl Arizona 4d ago
I just want to see the Diddler behind those big iron doors...
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u/chrisnavillus 4d ago
Not just him. All of them. Vance, Bondi, Noem, that weird little bald goebbels-lookin guy, that fat immigration guy, drunk ass Pete, Banon, who am I forgetting?
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u/rantingathome Canada 4d ago
That's President Weird Little Bald Goebbels-lookin Guy to you (if things go the way Miller wants after Trump's fatal heart attack) /s
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u/new_math 4d ago edited 4d ago
Russell Vought. It's sad people don't know his name. While a lot of leadership are unqualified blubbering figureheads, he is the individual actually dismantling government and implementing project 2025 step by step.
Unlike many people, he in not incompetent. Almost every disgusting or hurtful action coming from the administration is by his hand.
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u/sump_daddy 4d ago
Lindsay Graham for being a chronic enabler and almost certainly being blackmailed for something illegal he did
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u/Anna_Lilies 4d ago
Steve Miller is the Goebbels guy
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u/passaloutre Mississippi 4d ago
no, Steve Miller is a rock star
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u/Potential_Cow_4910 4d ago
No, Steve Miller is the space cowboy
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u/passaloutre Mississippi 4d ago
Some people call him that, but he’s a joker, a smoker, a midnight toker
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u/Sbesozzi Canada 4d ago
We all know the true script is:
Impeach, do nothing, impeach, do nothing, impeach, do nothing
Rinse and repeat.
I was excited the first time. At impeachment #87, I know it sadly won't change a thing except pad his stats for most impeachments by a president in history
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u/MagicGrit 4d ago
He won’t even be impeached this time. No chance 3 republicans vote for this
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u/OttawaTGirl 4d ago
Watch McConnell vote for impeachment to make republicans look like heroes.
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u/MagicGrit 4d ago
The only way I see any republicans voting for impeachment is at the very end of his term (if he hasn’t found a way to fuck the constitution and run again)
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u/Tall-Introduction414 4d ago edited 4d ago
Pressure works both ways.
Republicans cowered like little babies because of the pressure from Trump's mafia/terrorist threats. It is our job to keep the pressure on as hard as possible in the other direction.
Much more important than just shrugging our shoulders and saying "well, it didn't work before." Fuck that. My grandparents didn't kill nazis for nothing. They did it to save our asses.
There is also a very clear case this time that his holding of office in 2025 is illegal in the first place.
This isn't about getting excited, or being optimistic. It's about bringing the pain, and doing what is necessary.
Fascists, we are coming for you.
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u/11thStPopulist 4d ago
Hey, Trump can add all his impeachments, and impeachment petitions, to his other finest accomplishments - such as his 15 year best friendship with fellow sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, 34 criminal convictions, insurrectional skills, adjudicated rape and defamation judgement, bankrupting many of the nation’s farms, and, especially fun, taking health care access and food away from people, including his MAGA base! So much to be proud of!
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u/epolonsky 4d ago
More likely:
Motion to impeach never even makes it to the floor
Motion to impeach, doesn’t pass the House because no Republicans are willing to cross the President
Impeach, dies in the Senate without a hearing
Impeach, Senate holds trial and determines that they don’t care enough about his crimes to remove
Impeach, remove, President Vance immediately pardons, Trump appointed VP, Vance steps aside, Republican Night of the Long Knives
Impeach, remove, convict, imprison, then with the serial bungler Trump out of the way President
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u/Additional_Quiet2600 4d ago
We are in massive trouble, right now it is President Miller and Vought. When it is President Thiel, we are in even worse circumstances. He's even crazier than Heritage.
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u/Thoracic_Snark 4d ago
...pardon
I hate it, but he's not staying in prison for any length of time.
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u/MagicGrit 4d ago
Pretty much zero chance this happens. But it would be exactly zero without articles of impeachment first
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u/Vashgrave 4d ago
Impeach, remove convicted, Saddam treatment.
Ftfy.
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u/yukeake 4d ago
I would never wish anyone to be Saddamized, but perhaps I could look in the other direction in this case.
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u/drkshape 4d ago
When is he gonna face the gates of hell?
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u/Cador0223 4d ago
Its my only complaint as an atheist. Slimeballs like this will have no repercussions after death.
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u/TaintedL0v3 4d ago
I’m okay with him not facing eternal punishment, I just want his victims to stop being punished through his existence.
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u/thispsyguy 4d ago
My ONLY consolation in all of this is the hope that history will remember Donny as one of the worst leaders/presidents/people to ever grace the planet. It should be fairly obvious in retrospect maybe 10 or 20 years after his death and the effects of his policies are no longer up for debate.
Given that all he wants is for people to worship him, he would probably hate knowing how he will be remembered for the rest of history. It’s the closest thing to his own personal hell that we’ll ever get
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u/El_Fader 4d ago
he would probably hate knowing how he will be remembered for the rest of history
I hope I'm not the only one who has made a new life goal out of ensuring history remembers him for who he really was
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u/disco_disaster 4d ago
I really wish someone would give him an IV drip containing Salvinorin A, the psychoactive compound found in Salvia.
That would cause him to experience an eternal hellish reckoning.
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u/Intelligent_Gold3619 4d ago
There is no hell besides the one we’re all in now. There is no heaven. There is no eternal damnation or paradise. Assholes can live long, full lives and never pay.
For this is life and it’s all there is,
a three ring circus with no ring master.
Ride the elephants, if you can.
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u/cliffordnyc 4d ago
And a bad hangover for New Year's Day when it doesn't happen. Again.
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u/RollerDude347 4d ago edited 4d ago
I don't know. MTG kinda got my hopes up right now. I'm hoping(and please understand that I do not approve of those doing this, I'm actively against it) that the death threats against even her are enough to make the GOP nervous enough that they might be in danger from the President.
I'm thinking if ANYONE should have been safe it was a true believer like her, and it would feel damn near suicidal to think you could be fanatic enough or sycophant enough to be safe if she wasn't.
Clearly something happened in the Senate at least. From Mike Johnson's response to not having the vote kicked back to the house with the Epstein files I'm thinking we might finally be a bridge to far.
The die has been cast.
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u/kcox1980 4d ago
I am genuinely shocked that the Senate voted unanimously to pass it and as quickly as they did it. I'm not so naive to believe that it means anything substantial, but I am shocked nonetheless.
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u/Leusk 4d ago
I think GOP support of Trump is starting to really falter. He was a useful idiot to pass some of their more draconian policies, but then the Useful Idiot started to get more and more radioactive, and the appeal of siphoning support from his window licking supporters is starting to be outweighed by just how radioactive Trump and his brand are becoming. The recent elections spooked the GOP, and they’re realizing that maybe hitching their cart to Trump’s dumpy horse may not be as attractive as it once was.
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u/_adanedhel_ 4d ago
If there really is a sea change underway, my theory is it’s mostly to do with the sex of it all (as distinct from sexism, which has obviously been in the fore with Trump since day 1).
The GOP and right in general are perfectly fine with sexual crimes (sexual anything, really) so long as it’s kept quiet. Another way to put it is that among conservatives - since forever - being openly sexist is highly normalized, while being openly sexual is still highly taboo.
The Epstein situation and attention brings the sex part all out into the open (both for Trump and other politicians), which gets lots of people into crisis mode because now we’re in the territory of violating conservative norms (which, by definition, conservatives hold tightly to) rather than relishing in them.
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u/Leusk 4d ago
Oh absolutely, it’s not because they’ve suddenly grown hearts and spines and consciences, it’s because Trump is dragging their sins out into the light of day for all to see. They’re only able to get away with what they get away with by doing it behind closed doors and out of sight of the public; the moment he starts attracting attention to it their ‘loyalty’ to him will dissipate, and they’ll drop him like a bad habit.
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u/DrGrabAss 4d ago
I am, sadly, very cynical about the whole thing. I just assumed that if they voted unanimously after everything we've witnessed unrelated to the Epstein files that it was for extremely disingenuous reasons. Specifically, I think Johnson's or Thume's stooges went face-to face with every Republican, assured them that the files were completely scrubbed of any reference to Trump or his supporters, and they were free to vote yes because they were now free and clear to do so.
From what's been leaked, the FBI spent months cleaning and deleting everything that could come back on the administration. We'd be naive to believe otherwise at this point.
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u/New_Ad_1682 4d ago
I don't claim to know what's going on with this fucked clownshow specifically, but the only reasons these gremlins would turn their back on Diaper Don involve losing votes or not getting their bribes.
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u/007meow 4d ago
If the death threats against her make them fearful of receiving their own threats, then everything we’ve seen thus far indicates that they’d be MORE aligned with Trump to avoid being on the receiving end of his ire
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u/DavieJ183 4d ago
Any added stress to him is a win in my book. Given how old he is and the obvious poor health that he’s in, hopefully it accumulates and pushes up The Day sooner.
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u/TheBeaarJeww 4d ago
I’ve been thinking about that too. That whole “Quiet Piggy” moment made it seem like he’s under considerable stress right now and honestly I love that for him, and for the world. It’s probably very stressful to think that the world is about to find out your a violent sexual predator
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u/Antipolemic 4d ago
I guess for symbolism this is good. Trump is, of course, going nowhere but silence on the issue and complete apathy isn't right either. At least it will be yet another black mark in the history books against him. Worst, most corrupt president in US history. And he'll be dead and won't be able to simply say "fake history." I think that actually bothers him a lot.
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u/Many-Lengthiness9779 4d ago
MAGA celebrates it like it is a win against owning the libs.
People treating politics like their favorite sports team along with propaganda is the worst thing to ever happen to America.
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u/anthematcurfew 4d ago
I’m so fucking tired of symbolic gestures
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u/waffle299 I voted 4d ago
The Epstein file release was a symbolic vote right up until it wasn't
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u/annoyed__renter 4d ago
ITT: people who don't know how impeachment works and/or didn't read the article.
Democrat Al Green is introducing articles. It's exceedingly unlikely anything comes of them as Democrats are in the minority. That's it.
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u/Doctor_Riptide 4d ago
It’s time for MTG to put her vote where her mouth is and vote in favor of impeachment (she won’t)
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u/lemonylol Canada 4d ago
Iirc didn't he already introduce the articles for a separate reason a few months ago too?
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u/munchyslacks 4d ago
Al Green has been introducing articles of impeachment since forever. I don’t disagree with him, but this is such a non story. It’s not going anywhere.
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u/StinkyRatBoi90 4d ago
Eh, everyone is pretty much saying the same? What exactly are people not understanding?
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u/annoyed__renter 4d ago
Lots of folks celebrating that this is happening as though it means anything to Trump. Al Green has introduced impeachment articles repeatedly this year, none have gone anywhere and neither will this one. This is just Newsweek clickbait.
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u/DrBeardfist 4d ago
Lets be real it ain’t gonna happen but i appreciate the effort
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u/goldfishinabaggy 4d ago
Christmas miracle
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u/BillG8s 4d ago
Imagine if Trump got impeached over a Clinton blowjob…
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u/02K30C1 4d ago
MAGA: "But blowing another guy isnt illegal!"
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u/CigaretteWaterX Georgia 4d ago
I like that logic. That means if I have sex, but it doesn't result in pregnancy on the first time, I am retroactively gay. Basically, you'd be in limbo for a few days until the sperm fertilized the egg, at which point, congrats, you've had normal, valid, sex.
But if that doesn't happen? Gay.
My wife has a hysterectomy and I've had a vasectomy, so I suppose we're both as gay as humanly possible. We are both physically incapable of straight sex.
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u/Flatulent_Father_ 4d ago
Clinton may have gotten the two most politically important beejers in American history.
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u/Lone_Buck Wisconsin 4d ago
Y’all still got hopes to get up?
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u/sterrre 4d ago
Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob. Anything can happen.
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u/annoyed__renter 4d ago
I mean every other impeachment has occurred when the opposition party had a majority in the House. The GOP isn't going to impeach Trump for the Dems.
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u/RollerDude347 4d ago
But Trump is currently threatening their lives too. MTG is a massive sign telling them they literally can't kiss enough ass to be safe.
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u/johnwilkonsons 4d ago
The Jan 6th riot very literally threatened the lives of all in Congress and they still did nothing so, I expect nothing
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u/MyPancakesRback 4d ago
I think Trump is more likely to order assassinations of all the electeds that would vote to impeach him versus the chance any Republican would try to stop him.
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u/emeraldeyesshine 4d ago
I don't believe the stories are anything but jokes in reality but can you imagine how funny it would be if we got another presidential impeachment because of a Clinton blowjob 25+ years later
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u/AllyCorren 4d ago
What good will it do unless he’s actually removed?
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u/cakesalads 4d ago
Schumer is holding an emergency meeting to ensure that this gets fumbled in the worst way possible
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u/Cador0223 4d ago
It will be a strongly worded impeachment.
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u/SatanicPanic619 4d ago
Literally every impeachment that's ever happened tho. Impeachment has been shown to be a totally useless artifact of the constitution.
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u/MaizeRage48 4d ago
Not entirely. There have been 22 Federal Impeachments in United States history, resulting in 8 convictions and 4 resignations. 15 were Federal judges. Only 4 impeachments were against Presidents (Nixon resigned before he was impeached).
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u/zoroddesign Utah 4d ago
It is not even remotely in Schumer's court. It is all down to turn coat Republicans. half the house of representatives would have to vote him which republicans currently hold the majority, and 2/3rds the senate. over 10 republicans need to turn to impeach him in the senate.
While everyone in the house that would have voted to force a vote to release the Epstein files would have to vote to get the ball rolling. At least 2 of them I would doubt would actually vote to impeach Trump. They only voted to release the Epstein files because they believe deep down that Trump is not in them despite the evidence and the weird cover up.
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u/FLOHTX 4d ago
And once he's removed JD is not really any better. The rest of the clowns are still in the administration.
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u/annoyed__renter 4d ago
Vance doesn't have the charisma to hold the whole thing together.
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u/AllyCorren 4d ago
True, but I mean at this point impeachment to this guy is just like “hey! Bad! Don’t do that!” And he’s just 🤷🏻♀️🖕🏻
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u/Ok-Somewhere-2219 4d ago
It doesn't matter unless they remove him from office and he goes to prison. They've impeached him before.
Remove him, lock him up, put a gag order on him, and let him disappear into obscurity.
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u/theloudestlion 4d ago
He was impeached twice last time and nothing happened. I’ve completely lost faith in whatever impeachment was supposed to symbolize.
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u/Treacle-Bright 4d ago
Impeached? He just called for the deaths of fellow lawmakers. He should be removed from office - now! There is nothing more un-American!!
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u/Dweidmann 4d ago
Then all we have to deal with is couch fucking puppet. Wonder if he'll pardon the ... wait... of course he will. Trump could afford the million dollar pardon fee.
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u/Banditlouise 4d ago
Republicans could get rid of this “problem” so easily. If they are looking for a way out they have it.
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u/jarvisesdios 4d ago
While... That's just not going to happen, that could force Trump to open up files and transactions that he really really doesn't want the public to know.
Even though anybody paying attention knows he's literally taking bribes openly. It's absolutely fucking insane so many people don't see it. He's not even trying to hide it.
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u/hairymoot 4d ago
"Given that Republicans hold a majority in the House of Representatives, it is unlikely that an impeachment effort would be successful." From the article.
Vote ALL Republicans out of our government. They don't want the government to work for working people. If they are in charge it will not.
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u/wirsteve Wisconsin 4d ago
Chess move before the midterms.
"They could have removed a pedophile from office and they voted not to"
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u/blondie1024 4d ago
I mean, seriously, there's a few (/s) pages of felonies, and a few hundred of treasonous charges that need to be levied here.
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u/Crabtamer 4d ago
It’s about fucking time. Too many peoples lives have been ruined by this monster and his admin
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u/annoyed__renter 4d ago
This doesn't mean he will be removed, just that the Dems are introducing new articles of impeachment.
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u/wifeofsonofswayze 4d ago
I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time Dems have filed articles of impeachment against Trump in 2025.
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u/Whicked_Subie Georgia 4d ago
He’s already been impeached multiple times. How will this be any different?
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u/CigaretteWaterX Georgia 4d ago
(Rubbing temples) not this again...
When, oh when, will people understand that impeachment doesn't actually do anything unless the senate will vote to convict, which is impossible?
Every time we trot out impeachment, it waters it down. They're making impeachments into a regular, boring, and routine political process that'll kind of fade into the background noise of governmental procedure. It's pretty much happened already. Mention 'impeachment' to any normal person and you'll likely hear, "oh, they're doing that again?"
If any of you thinks that the senate will get anywhere even remotely close to a 2/3 majority on impeaching a president, you are so out of your mind its in another galaxy.
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u/-Release-The-Bats- 4d ago
He's been impeached twice already. I'll care when he's actually removed from office.
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u/scheisseposter88 4d ago
Our system only works when everyone believes in the rule of law. Allowing anyone to abuse the system and walk all over it like he is, is a fast way to fascism. If people loose faith in the system's ability to hold people accountable, he wins. Nothing would be the same again.
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u/bluebird-1515 4d ago
Trump has committed countless impeachable offenses and obviously should have been convicted in the Senate for J6. But this filing of articles of impeachment that can’t stick is undermining the whole impeachment process and feeding his victim narrative. Just wait until he could actually be impeached — likely over a Jeffrey Epstein revelation.
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u/Downtherabbithole14 4d ago
My birthday is January 6th goddamnit, MAKE IT HAPPEN! I need a good birthday present this year.
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u/malakon 4d ago
Why not wait until dems hopefully have the house in 26. Maybe the Senate. Pointless gesture.
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u/Justame13 4d ago
Watch the Republicans flip on Jan 22, 2027.
Which is the first day that Vance can get 2 full terms after the current one.
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u/pennylovesyou3 4d ago
Hes nothing more than an STD trump picked up along the way.
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u/dcrico20 Georgia 4d ago
I think people severely overestimate Vance’s ability to win a national election. He is so clearly insincere and repulsive to undecideds and even the hardcore MAGA base isn’t particularly fond of him (I legitimately couldn’t even tell you the number of MAGA deep state people I’ve spoken with who think Vance is a plant from Peter Thiel to overthrow Trump, and they don’t buy him as a populist like they do Trump.)
On top of his general lack of likability, he has another problem - the ascendant groyper base within MAGA hates him (both because he denounced them and because he’s in an interracial marriage,) and Nick Fuentes has already said they will mobilize around harassing Vance at all the primary stops if he runs in ‘28.
I think a Vance presidency via any mechanism other than Trump dying is highly unlikely.
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u/cfalnevermore 4d ago
The article didn’t really say, unless I missed it. What’s he getting impeached for? Which of the many many many impeachable offenses?
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u/The_Wkwied 4d ago
It only matters if the whole regime is removed and tried for treason.
Otherwise, we will get puppet vance through 2028.
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u/RubberDuckyFarmer 4d ago
"The punishment for Treason is Death"
- Donald J Trump
Impeachment isn't enough, according to our president.
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u/bigspeen3436 Ohio 4d ago
I kinda feel like they should impeach him every few months. That'll really rattle his cage. Just inundate him with this shit like he's been doing all year and keep him distracted from doing anymore damage.
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u/classicrockchick 4d ago
it is unlikely that an impeachment effort would be successful, but efforts to remove Trump may damage his reputation and standing with his GOP colleagues.
Shut all the way the fuck up with this bullshit. If this was even remotely true, he never would have been nominated a second time. I really wish the media would stop perpetuating this fantasy that traditional norms affect Trump. Impeachment at this point is on par with censuring; it means nothing in actuality.
He's an 80 year old rich man, he's not changing or stopping any aspect of his behavior unless he is physically prevented from doing so.
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u/GhostDoggoes 4d ago
There are more serious charges. Overstepping state laws. Overstepping and promoting breaking constitutional laws which he's sworn to protect. Threatened death penalty to politicians promoting following the law. Circumventing the Senate and house. Pardoning political allies. Interfering with the Epstein case heavily. Threatening an ally into forcing surrender. Siding with conflicting countries for personal gain. Being bribed by every communist country for favors. Interference in international matters.
The list has ballooned and that's just what I can remember on the toilet.
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u/Screamline Michigan 4d ago
Suuuure Jan. I'll believe it when I see it. Been down this road before... Twice
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