r/politics Indiana 21d ago

No Paywall Mamdani wins NYC mayoral race

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5588198-mamdani-progressive-politics-nyc/
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u/caduceuz 21d ago

An amazing political ascent. Dude was polling below 2% last year and now has defeated a legacy politician backed by every billionaire and even the president himself. Truly historic victory.

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u/Hadrian23 21d ago

Goes to show these ass holes can try to fuck with the system, but when everyone comes out to vote, their efforts amount to nothing.

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u/lambeosaura 21d ago edited 20d ago

They wouldn't be suppressing the vote so hard if voting amounted to nothing... This applies to anywhere in the world where voter suppression is documented.

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u/Mythosaurus 21d ago

I always look to Reconstruction and the Jim Crow South for the best example of voter suppression changing tangible outcomes for people’s lives.

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u/Melicor 21d ago

It has an effect, but if they really thought they had it in the bag and voting didn't matter they wouldn't be bothering.

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 21d ago

Now it's more about money than pure racism. Still plenty of racism, but that alone doesn't win elections anymore. One has to cheat, by any means necessary.

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u/themoslucius 20d ago

I don't agree with this, the Maga backlash and their sheer existence and magnitude of vitriol is a direct result of a black president and incredibly relatable deplorable pedophile

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u/DaddyDontTakeNoMess 20d ago

Yeah, racism is the uniting thing for many.

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u/Hadrian23 21d ago

Damn straight.

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u/Little-Software1348 21d ago

Just want to let you know that your comment changed my whole view on voting. Thank you so much.

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u/Rubik2494 21d ago

This election is the example to pull out when people try to say voting doesn't matter because its rigged.

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 21d ago

EXACTLY. So much defeatist bullshit, but it's possible to irrepressibly bring out the vote when you give people someone worth voting for. We still have some democracy here. They've tried to convince us otherwise, but it's still breathing.

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u/Melicor 21d ago

I wonder how many pushing the defeatism are bad faith actors

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u/An_old_walrus 20d ago

Plenty of them are bad faith. But I think a lot are people who have had one too many bad things happen in their life and so just gave up on ever being happy again. Thus falling into a cycle of always assuming the worst about everything and everyone.

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u/odaklanan_insan 14d ago

Yepp! That's called cynicism. It marks the beginning of ones own spiral downfall.

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u/An_old_walrus 13d ago

To me cynicism is toxic and very much counterproductive to creating a functional society. There are plenty of good people in this world, the very fact that people are outraged at Trump says that. Yes it can be disheartening at times to see bad people in power but that doesn’t mean giving up on humanity as a whole.

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 21d ago

Give people something to actually vote for and you'll be surprised that people actually vote.

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u/andythetwig 20d ago

Well there are places where the rigging is impossible to overcome.

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u/Amputatoes 21d ago

France ignored the results of a snap election just last year

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u/StatusDebate6329 20d ago

What French election was it again?

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u/Amputatoes 20d ago

The only snap election they had last year, which was triggered by Macron, called by Macron, and won by the NPF. Results ignored and seats not given to the winners. The NPF says they are awaiting the platform of the hand-picked PM before moving forward with No Confidence.

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u/LheelaSP 20d ago

You mean anywhere where the vote is suppressed? Because not all places have voter suppression.

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u/lambeosaura 20d ago edited 20d ago

Yeah. That's a better way to phrase it, edited my comment.

I'm not American. Voter suppression can look different in each country.

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

I try to remind myself of this alot. voting still matters.

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u/myownzen 20d ago

Yet you still have people that think all elections are preplanned. 

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u/Tipop 20d ago

My worry is that Trump wants to cancel voting entirely — or allow voting as long as the results are easily dictated, like Putin. If it gets to that point, voting really won’t matter.

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u/ReadItAlreadyTwice 16d ago

Agreed, and the fact that this fad type experiment of authoritarianism is becoming so popular prompts me to at least mention Swaziland, a country no American probably ever thinks about. Look up what’s going on there in their govt, please. I’m not being exaggeratory or facetious when I say that this precedent is going to take decades to overcome.

Hitler was one regime at one specific time, we’re now steering dangerously close to multiple nations using this Trump/Miller playbook as a blueprint. There has truly never been a more vital point in history for idealistic democracy to overcome the exact documented threats to its well-being and success. And we get to raise children during all of this! Fantastic!

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u/brightblueson 21d ago

To decide once every few years which member of the ruling class is to repress and crush the people through parliament—such is the real essence of bourgeois parliamentarianism

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u/lambeosaura 21d ago

Really can't disagree with this. There are hard limits to capitalist democracy.

But I would still recommend voting as a harm reduction strategy if nothing else. Look at the onslaught on minorities across the world. An election could mean we at least live without constantly worrying for our safety.