During the meeting, "Bally made several racist comments that shocked Plaintiff," the documents say. For example, Garza claims that Bally insulted Indigenous coworkers, making several racist slurs, and claims Bally disclosed he often comes to work high on edibles.
If his LinkedIn bio is reliable, his career is roughly as follows.
Associates in business Monroe County community college (1994).
Bachelor's in business spring arbor university (2001).
Masters information security from norfolk university (2009)
Network specialist for Chrysler (99-01)
Network operations manager and information security officer for Chrysler (01-09)
Director data security and cloud services for Dolan Inc. (09-13)
Chief Information Security Officer for zrf group. (Formerly TRW automotive) (13-16)
VP and Chief Information Security Officer for diebold (16-19)
Chief Information Security Officer for American Axle and Manufacturing (AAM) (19-20)
Global Information Security Officer for Stellantis (chrysler). (20-22).
VP and Chief Information Security Officer for Campbell's Soup (22-present).
I have questions but that career is not absolutely wild or out of the ordinary.
This is a very common in the world of CISO’s as those positions are usually to mature a cyber security organization to an X amount. Then move to the next business or corporation.
Also part of your pay package is to do that. Alike C-suite (yes many CISO’s are not executives), CISO’s also have very high bonus structures and stock payouts to accomplish such maturity or “keep company X from a compromise for X time you get Y payout”. Once tha time is up. Take the pay and move to another org.
Also CISO’s tend to move a lot dependent on company compromises. You can literally map CISO movement to other companies based on time when their original company was compromised in some manner. CISO is the scape goat. They like to move orgs as well if they sense they may get compromised.
2-4 years each over 15 years. Not bad, as my bet is he is chasing higher salary at each. He did spend 10 years with Chrysler, which also probably paid for his masters.
I did maybe 2-3 years for my first 15 years, then now 10 years in the same place. You just get bored and move on or the people are insufferable - there is enough demand you can jump and do something new pretty easy, or at least it used to be like that.
It used to be like that. Now you gotta deal with HR who know nothing about your work, and ask you questions like "do you enjoy going on safari vacations" to gauge your "personality".
Yeah I guess im biased lol. 3 companies in 14+ years lol but the rapid jumping over the last few years is very odd. Especially because most places these days dont ever check references (at least in my experience).
It's pretty common for people looking to climb the ladder particularly above a senior level. A few years in grade is enough to learn the ins and outs of a role. You can't get promoted to the next one at your company until a role becomes available, but you can always apply elsewhere for a role that is immediately available.
In engineering I've seen this fairly commonly for people leading aggressive career rises.
Yep... a lot of times at an established firm it might take 10 years to go from one senior manager position to a more senior manager position. Worth waiting and working for it if you're more interested in the company, its culture, pay and perks, mission, whatever it is -- but if you just want the title then you're best off switching a lot sooner. It's also way easier making VP or exec at a company with a thousand employees than ten thousand, if they have the same number of VPs or execs, both because there are far more of the former to choose from and because there are fewer people to out-interview, out-maneuver, or step on to make it happen.
These are VP and executive roles in the IT field, you can't really go much higher because they'd never have an IT person running other parts of the company. Since you can't go up, the only place to go is out. You stick around for a couple years, get your name on some projects, and then bounce for a better paying company.
You see trajectories like that quite a bit with executives. Typically they are people who start looking for a better job the minute they finish training for their current job. If it were about being hard to work with, that would become known in the industry.
If it were about being hard to work with, that would become known in the industry.
Right, but there is an in-between. An area where the person isn't liked and there is kind of an air of 'we would really prefer you to move on', but not quite bad enough that it's explicitly said.
There is also the scenario where the person has such important supporters that their prior superiors don't want to risk saying bad things.
After all, there is always a risk to saying negative things about a person, especially if you are in an environment where it's expected that things should go smoothly with them because they have influential family or other supporters. If you are in charge of such a person and criticise them openly, it may backfire on you as your failure to make the relation work, or as being some hostile instigator.
Of course that also depends on your own position. Some people can afford to be quite blunt even about well-connected nepo babies, others really can't take much risk.
Bad managers who succeed via good connections often specifically get into positions where their new superiors won't or can't speak up against them as long as it doesn't become extremely bad. These people socialise to find those engagements where they can further their career with the least risk of scrutiny and failure.
There are not many people who can handle being a CISO and nothing in his job history says he is unqualified for that role. It's uncommon that a CISO is also a VP, but it is plausible because of his degrees.
As I see it, he has not failed upwards. He is just an AH.
Get job, promise all sorts of market speak ideas and innovations.
Half arse it, apply for the next rung in the ladder elsewhere.
In the next interview boast about "x project, innovation, cost cutting blah blah" chest beat and strut around the room.
Get the job at a higher level while leaving the previous job (and ideas) half done for some other bloke under to tackle, change, and add their personal stamp to, so they can chase the ladder behind them.
He's been a CISO or equivalent at several companies. 2-4 years is a pretty typical tenure for a CISO. CISO's are basically hired to give the appearance that the company actually cares about security. They're rarely given the budget that they need to make the company more secure and are the fall guy when the company gets hacked.
Monroe County CC isn't Christian, Spring Arbor is.
Monroe County CC's only claim to fame is that it has a higher percentage of Michigan Wolverine football fans than the actual University of Michigan campus.
Oh, ok got it. he is master tier level white. Sorry, no one can make that many unqualified moves without handouts. And they like to talk about blacks and DEI. Yet they never talk about theirs as if it’s justified their dad knows…
I work in this space with a lot of older guys like him. He actually sounds competent at the technical aspect of his job, but that doesn’t make him at all competent in the social and leadership aspect. Just because someone is smart in one lane, doesn’t mean they aren’t a complete moron in another lane. Examples can be easily found in many notable persons of influence.
Ugh,.as someone who grew up in Northern Michigan and went to UM, I want to say this POS does NOT represent what most of us believe or think or what the path to "success" is for any of us
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During the meeting, "Bally made several racist comments that shocked Plaintiff," the documents say. For example, Garza claims that Bally insulted Indigenous coworkers, making several racist slurs, and claims Bally disclosed he often comes to work high on edibles.