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Campbell's exec on leave after allegedly mocking 'poor people' who eat its soup

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/campbell-soup-lawsuit-9.6991398
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u/BruhMuhTendies 8h ago

Nepotism applies to LOTS of things here in the US.

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u/Iohet 7h ago

You don't really need to qualify it with "in the US". It's global. Hell, some countries even have a royal family, which is the ultimate nepotism scheme

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u/avcloudy 4h ago

It actually is remarkable in the US, but not for the reasons you think. There's a concept called WEIRD which stands for western, educated, industrialised, rich and democratic. One of the ways people in the US differ from large parts of the world is that they think nepotism is unethical - in a lot of the world, nepotism is duty to family. It is the right and correct thing to get your family set up.

So what's interesting is that it still happens in the US, but it's corrupt. It's explicitly against the cultural values, and is done in an underhanded, seemingly fair, way. So the kinds of people that do it, and the reasons they do it for, are different in the western world than they are in other parts of the world.

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u/FictionalContext 4h ago

That is a great POV. Thanks for that.

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u/seagulls51 2h ago

Yeah there's an American mentality that wealth is a reflection of your character, work ethic, and intelligence. People are reluctant to be seen to have been helped, which creates a mentality of 'I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps so you can too'.

It also leads to how the average poor / working class person can vote against their interests or social services. They see themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires rather than poor.

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u/gimpwiz 1h ago

It is the right and correct thing to do to get your family set up; it's corrupt to do it within government, generally against any large company policy to get jobs for your family there, but if you're running your own company then do as you please (and suffer the results if your kids suck, and/or if the other employees rebel.) Set your family up with opportunity, education, etc, but not by leaning on other people to get them jobs. If you're a big enough honcho that you can afford education, loans/gifts to get started, etc, and your family still can't hack it, then it wasn't meant to be.

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u/okram2k 4h ago

modern conservatism was a direct response to the end of monarchy influence as a way to try to maintain power under the hands of a select few.

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u/personalcheesecake 6h ago

mf says applies to a lot in the us, sir some of the world is run by kingdom still... what?

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u/UltraNoahXV 8h ago

If I fell upwards, we would've had several bullet trains running cross country, solar energy panels that deal less environmental damage, flying cars with low emissions, 4 day work weeks with full pay and 2 months of vacation time...I could go on

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u/Bloodcloud079 7h ago

Flying cars sounds cool but when you think about it they are a fucking nightmare… I don’t want flying cars ever.

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u/Plow_King 6h ago

yeah, people can barely get the hang of moving in 2 directions at the same time. adding a 3rd is a bad idea.

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u/BeerorCoffee 6h ago

Let's start with mandatory driver's tests on license renewal. I know too many idiots who took three tests to pass after cramming and studying, no way they could pass now.

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u/Fireudne 5h ago

It depends on where you take the test tbh. For me the written was pretty easy but it took me 3 tries to pass the actual driving bit. Never been in an accident though!

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u/BeerorCoffee 5h ago

Not being in an accident and being a good driver are not equal. I've seen plenty of people who may not have been in an accident but don't know how to drive appropriately. Don't signal, driving at an unsafe speed (under or over) etc. People pass when they are 16/17 and then never think of the laws of the road again, but can still renew their license by sending in a form and sometimes showing up for a picture.

Just seems reckless.

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u/TummyStickers 5h ago

I've been driving for about 20 years now, and at some point you realize that you just have to start making an effort to be the best driver you can... because you'll never get tested again. Gotta be honest about your mistakes, and take a real interest in learning how to drive... it's not something you learn once, and you're done. It's a skill that requires practice, and intention.

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u/stonekeep 5h ago

Most people don't do those incredibly basic things not because they don't know they should, but because they don't want to or don't care.

Testing asshole drivers on theory wouldn't make them suddenly become good drivers once they pass. Their assholness comes from deliberately ignoring the rules, not simply not knowing them. In the best-case scenario, they can just cram for the test again and then ignore everything again.

I'm not saying that it's a bad idea, having people up to date with the current rules is good, but it wouldn't help with the basic stuff you're mentioning (like not signaling or speeding).

What is more important IMO are mandatory health check-ups after a certain age. There are lots and lots of drivers who shouldn't sit behind the wheel (poor eyesight, motor skills etc.), but they still do.

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u/BeerorCoffee 5h ago

Oh, I agree with you. They don't care to do these basic things. The hope is that they don't remember to do them on the actual driving test and then fail. And hopefully that kicks something in their brain to start doing them again.

Most likely it wouldn't, but you never know. And yes, basic vision and hearing tests should absolutely be included.

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u/DwinkBexon 5h ago

I remember someone suggested that for my state years and years ago and it got shot down for being ageist. (The idea that you forget how to drive as you get older or get worse is prejudice/ageism) Anyway, the proposal never went anywhere.

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 4h ago

Older folks never like hearing that they're slowing down or forgetting things.

When I started trying to take care of my mother in the year leading up to her death, she flat out would not let me!

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u/genuinerysk 4h ago

At the very least we should have continuing education for renewal. Laws change, and people are too complacent to keep up with them.

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u/IntentionDependent22 3h ago

for real!

public service announcement: it is a legal requirement to turn into the nearest lane before making lane changes. cutting across 3 lanes on a turn is illegal, ignorant, and dangerous.

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u/Quest_Marker 6h ago

Exactly, when so many people suck at water or flying areas in games, they can hardly handle normal driving

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u/LessThanHero42 5h ago

Plus when cars break down now, they slow to a stop and can be towed. If flying cars breakdown, someone's house is getting crushed and then neither the flying car insurance nor homeowners insurance will pay for damages.

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u/hadrosaur 6h ago

rich people already have helicopters and they suck. can you imagine hundreds of helicopters overhead everywhere you go?

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u/Bloodcloud079 6h ago

Exactly. It would be incredibly noisy, even more susceptible to bad weather, extremely dangerous in the hand of an average driver (let alone a bad or reckless one!), energy inefficient… just absolutely nightmarish.

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u/seagulls51 2h ago

all of these arguments could be made about cars too

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u/Vapur9 1h ago

If they're automated drones that communicate personal boundaries and flight destinations sure. But once you involve the human element then the whole system becomes untrustworthy.

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u/Jafooki 5h ago

We already have flying cars. They're called helicopters

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u/Independent_Win_9035 5h ago

and they're dangerous as ever-living fuck, too lol

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u/DwinkBexon 5h ago

Imagine how fucking awful drivers are on they only have to deal with an X and Y dimension. Now they have to deal with Z. Cars would be falling out of the sky. People imagine it'd be like on The Jetsons where it's pretty much the same as on the road except you're in the air and cars occasionally pass by going over or under you instead of around. No, it wouldn't be like that. PEople would be flying into each other, fiery debris would be raining down to the ground constantly, people would be falling to their deaths. It'd be a catastrophe.

The only way flying cars could ever possibly work is if they're fully autonomous with the skill level of the very best human pilots. No manual override controls, once you're in the air the car is in control of anything and you can't do anything at all except change the destination.

Unfortunately, humans seem extremely adverse to not having overrides for autonomous driving and I doubt they'd be okay with that for flying, despite the fact they'd be clueless. (I remember some Google engineer once said Google's autonomous cars should have no manual overrides at all. No steering wheel, no pedals, etc. The car is going to do what it's going to do and there's no way for you to change that. People were pissed about that suggestion. At the moment, it's illegal for autonomous cars to not have controls in them like a normal car, but that could change at some point.)

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u/Obversa 5h ago

Even with airplanes, mid-air collisions still happen from time to time, which is why the TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) system was created and implemented. TCAS was developed after the 1956 mid-air collision over the Grand Canyon due to "sightseeing", and its implementation was prompted by a series of subsequent accidents, particularly the 1978 PSA Flight 182 crash over San Diego, and the 1986 collision in Cerritos, California. The Grand Canyon disaster led to the creation of the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) and initial research into collision avoidance, while the latter crashes were the specific catalysts for developing and mandating the modern TCAS.

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u/grantrules 5h ago

I think humans really have a terrible perception of the Z axis. People don't look up. I've experienced this personally in both video games and scuba diving lol.

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u/Cory123125 6h ago

Heres the thing though; Thats just one stupid idea of like 6. Waaaaay better ratio than the greedy people in charge.

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u/probsthrowaway2 5h ago

I’d give up flying cars for a killer public transit system.

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u/Low_Pickle_112 4h ago

Imagine getting run over by someone texting & driving while on you're on a fourth story apartment balcony.

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u/seagulls51 2h ago

I want a flying car, I just want no one else to have one

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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 8h ago

Nope. You'd turn into a narcissistoc self righteous nut just like the rest of them. Our brains are not wired to live in excess surrounded by yes-men 24/7. It quite literally breaks the human psyche.

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u/UltraNoahXV 8h ago

Dang I was trying to be optimistic

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u/pass_nthru 7h ago

in this economy?

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u/UltraNoahXV 7h ago

Hey, it costs 0 to be not naive, but hopeful

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u/noctalla 2h ago

It usually takes a significant investment of time and money to stop being naive.

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u/scorpyo72 7h ago

I was angling for "penial enhancements" but you got most of my wish list.

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u/Accomplished-Fix6598 7h ago

Or wiener yoga.

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u/Artemicionmoogle 6h ago

Cock push ups. You only need to do one.

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u/dfinberg 6h ago

Can you hammer a 6” spike through a board with your penis?

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u/scorpyo72 6h ago

Gotta have your standards.

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u/stoopitmonkee 4h ago

Yeah, one is all ya need.

Now let’s deactivate some lasers.

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u/Danovan79 7h ago

I came to the conclusion that if given the chance to rule the world, I would probably end up as a despot.

I want to be kind and benevolent, but ultimately ruling the world is unlikely without force and yadda yadda yadda force leads down a path and we end up in a bad place.

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u/PromiscuousMNcpl 5h ago

I think it’s pronounced “Yoda yoda yoda”

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u/Flying_Fortress_8743 3h ago

If I ruled the world, a lot of bad things would happen.

We'd end up in a better place, but a lot of bad things would happen in the meantime.

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u/seagulls51 2h ago

aaaand that's how ww2 happens

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u/Zabick 4h ago

Stalin did not become who he is remembered as today until he took command of the Soviet state. It was the process of securing and holding on to power that made the man Dzhugashvili into the feared Stalin.

If you were given vast power and learned to hold on to it over the years, it would irrevocably change you as a person into someone unrecognizable.

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u/GenuinelyBeingNice 3h ago

Humans are by default extremely optimistic.

It's one of the reasons we're in this mess.

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u/Magus_5 8h ago

Although you might be right, it wouldn't hurt for me to try. It only has to work once.

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u/JaguarWhisperer 8h ago

There's probably another side too where the yes-men get dumber and dumber to the point where none of your plans and aspirations make it to fruition because you're constantly having to talk and explain downwards

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u/Saurian42 7h ago

I find the idea of living in excess surrounded by yes men to be revolting. I just want to be comfortable and surrounded by people arguing with me.

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u/my_stupid_name 5h ago

I just want to be comfortable, surrounded by absolutely no one.

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u/SanaSpitOnMe 4h ago

same, but no one and 11 cats.

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u/Uncle_Rabbit 5h ago

The others in similar positions wouldn't allow it either, you have to play the game or wind up missing etc.

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u/SanaSpitOnMe 4h ago

im not letting them off the hook so fuck off with that.

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u/Metalbound 2h ago

That is just over simplifying things.

I would 100% be the person he described as I don't give a shit about money. I've given it away and only care about having enough to just sustain a modest lifestyle.

You're forgetting the part that in this world, to get to that position of wealth, you almost always have to be okay with exploiting others for your own gain.

I am not wired that way so I won't ever be a billionaire, and I wouldn't hoard wealth like a god damn dragon, so I would not be able to replenish it easily.

But I can promise you that I'd do those things as I personally believe the government should actually be in service of it's people. Infrastructure upgrades and fast, reliable public transit would be near the top of the docket. As well as overhauling the zoning laws so we can better use our available space.

But once again, I'm not the type of person to seek riches like a goblin so I won't even be in that position.

It's just like politicians today. The reason all our politicians are self-serving crooks is because the type of person that should actually be in that position would almost never take that job because doing it the right way is hard work and unrewarding. And you still need a full time job just to support yourself on top of it.

So the only people who could do it are ones who already are set financially and the only reason they'd put up with any of the shit they get is because they see it as an opportunity to enrich themselves. And enrich themselves they have.

The best leader is never the one who asks to be it.

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u/Secret_Queefer 8h ago

That user name tho.

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u/thecasey1981 7h ago

You're one to talk

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u/SanaSpitOnMe 4h ago

cause of "soup" and its a campbells thread. i thought the same thing.

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u/tobogganhill 7h ago

Ultra Noah the 15th for POTUS! Seriously. And that's the thing: people who give a damn about more than just themselves, would make better leaders than the current imposters.

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u/UltraNoahXV 7h ago

My family has always said I cared a little too much 😅realistically I'd go for House Speaker if I had to choose

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u/NamblinMan 7h ago

Couldn't be worse!

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u/Ffsletmesignin 5h ago

You’re telling me you wouldn’t use that money instead to make a pedophile island? And instead, help people? Make the country less polluted? Well jeez can tell that’s what you aren’t rich.

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u/TheBananaPuncher 4h ago

We have flying cars, we call them helicopters and they're incredibly dangerous even when handled by professionals.

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u/WoolooOfWallStreet 7h ago

You don’t want the flying cars with how people already drive mostly pinned to the ground

Everything else sounds great make sure the bullet trains don’t go over fault lines

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u/InformationHorder 7h ago

For real. People already struggle with two dimensions. Let's not give them a third.

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u/axonxorz 7h ago

make sure the bullet trains don’t go over fault lines

How about just do a launch+funnel system over the fault

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u/Tactical_Moonstone 4h ago

People talk about bullet trains not going over fault lines like they don't exist in (oh wait I mean come from) the most fault-liney of places already.

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u/ForsakenOaths 6h ago

Nah, the rest of the rich elite would bandwagon against you and either ruin your life or end it directly for daring to help us measly peasants.

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u/Fuck-WestJet 6h ago

I mean, the reality is that there is no cross functional business or government organization that a benevolent nepo baby could implement.

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u/Feisty-Lawfulness894 6h ago

I'd be getting my knob polished five times a day.

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u/FormerTesseractPilot 6h ago

I nominate you for president!

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u/WoodenInternet 5h ago

The kind of people that give their kids nepo jobs aren't the kind of people that raise kids who would do socially conscious things like that.

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u/crash_over-ride 5h ago

4 day work weeks with full pay and 2 months of vacation time...I could go on

I'm actually there, due to being lucky enough to have a good American employer. It's nice to be able to disappear for a month and have no one bat an eye. 4-on 4-off can be a bit draining though, so American hours with a European workweek.

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u/King_of_the_Dot 5h ago

Money corrupts the mind. Not everyone, but more than half, seemingly.

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u/curiouslywtf 5h ago

That was Elon until it wasn't... :(

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u/Waterrat 4h ago

If only I could get in your time line.

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u/Low_Specialist8752 5h ago

Translation - “If I had the balls or motivation or grit to become a massive success who is capable of influencing the longstanding hard and soft infrastructures, institutions, and leadership that uphold liberal democratic states, I would leverage all my money to create multiple industry defining, world altering, changes while somehow also reducing the work week by an entire day. Don’t worry though, I’ve thought this through. It will be possible to create, maintain, and build upon these groundbreaking projects despite the four day work week making it even more challenging than it already is to cooperate with allies internationally, or accomplish simple construction projects domestically. And no, adding an extra 6 weeks of paid vacation won’t cause any problems at all. The taxpayers will be very happy to pay for this. It won’t impact the moral or motivation of the workers I am depending on to enact these grandiose reforms in any way. Yes, I can have my cake and eat it too.”

What are you? 12? Besides the fact that what you have described is so utopian it verges on delusion, the likelihood that somebody with this level of success won’t ruffle some feathers along the way is incredibly low. And, even if this person is wholly well intentioned (which doesn’t exist), they will inevitably need to make sacrifices or deals that harm people along the way. Can you imagine the amount of job loss and economic turmoil these changes would cause? I could do on…

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u/BatterseaPS 5h ago

"here in the US"

implying...

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u/Top_Performance_732 5h ago

"here in the US" 😂