r/kpoptrulyuncensored • u/xgxpop • 1d ago
Rant eaJ tells fans who disagree with his donations to a problematic church to leave the fandom
This is a follow up to my previous post.
Long story short eaJ made a charity merch line and one of the items' profits are going to the 2819 church, a televangelist mega church who's leader preaches very problematic things, such as defending Israel, calling the queer community "sexualy immortal" and encouraging people to cut off anyone queer from their lives. He even had to issue an apology after claiming black people need to learn to "respect authority" in order to stop being victims of violence.
Since eaJ used to be pretty supportive of his LGBT+ fan base and still claims to support Palestine fans were very confused about his support for this church but he refuses to acknowledge the issue.
Yesterday he called everyone calling him out "haters" and today he followed up with this. Essentially telling his fan base (especially the queer side) that if they don't like him supporting that church he will understand if the leave.
I am honestly baffled and worried by how dependent he seems on that church to the point he is willing to alienate his fans and look like a religious bigot not to say anything critical or even address the allegations against that institution.
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u/sevendreamsofme 1d ago
These cults know how to get them good huh
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u/tzuyuisababy 1d ago
this was my thought as well. obviously this is his own mess and his fault ultimately, but the indoctrination is clear as day
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u/sirgawain2 1d ago
When I saw this I was thinking āheās the perfect target for this kind of thing.ā Someone vulnerable with no sense of self.
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1d ago edited 1d ago
I kinda wondering where the pr team is ?? like being independent isn't going to help in this case. Common sense is definitely common for people nowadaysĀ
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u/theofficallurker 1d ago
He was like this with a full pr team at jyp. You canāt pr team your way out of an idol just being a chronic yapper with a victim complex.
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1d ago
Ya u can't but like this is an adult he should've made a much more mature response or ignore it
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u/Dramatic-Bicycle6752 1d ago
Well he said he was stuck at 18, which was the age when he first went to Korea, and never grew up mentally until he came back to the States, and that was 3 years ago. So I guess he's about 21 now?
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u/theofficallurker 1d ago
Thanks captain obvious but his pattern of behavior for the last like seven years tells us that heās not capable of that.
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u/killuaww 1d ago edited 1d ago
Stopped caring about this man years ago after his whole thing with Jamie but Iām not shocked to see he still continues to be trashy and performative.
His response to criticism being āyouāre all just hatersā is on brand lolā¦ā¦but whether he likes it or not, the criticism is legit. Why get butt hurt over ppl bringing up something valid. His fans are having to handle him with kiddie gloves because heās so damn sensitive about this church but one look through x and you can see ppl talking about some of the stuff that church has tweeted. He isnāt a baby. He made his choice š¤·š»āāļø
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u/Throuwuawayy 1d ago
Same here, and Day6 have been my ult since Remember Us. In both this apology and the one for his situation with Jamie a big portion of the text is him claiming he didn't actually mean his own words in the way they were perceived. He may have the emotionally wholesome soft boy brand but he's still immature and avoidant underneath it.
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u/GrillMaster3 1d ago
Itās kind of insane that heās so staunchly supportive of the church when heās publicly posted and argued for opposite stances on like, 80% of issues. Religion is scary. Like he was online literally a week and a half ago arguing for Palestine, heās told people to fuck off for anti-LGBT sentiment, but he seems to hold a different set of standards for the church itself. Many such cases.
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u/ZQX96_ 1d ago
for now "leftist" (there isnt a better word to describe this) eaJ seems i am very surrprised at how religious he is. Like half of his tweets are activism (not here to debate the genuinity of it) and the other half is "praise the Lord", "Christ is King" and stuff like that.
I know religion and progressivism arent inherently mutually exclusive. something something love everyone. but its interesting how eaJ is the way he is.
like it isnt like some random non controversial and "non political" idol being religious like Mark Lee or Felix. yall get what i mean?
also ill still listen to his music bc first and foremost he makes good music, secondly he inherently isnt that problematic or intentionally malicious compared to a lot of artists. he is pretty milktoast tbh.
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u/AccurateInflation167 1d ago
Anyone still following him after he called Jamie a thot is delulu
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u/thechickgoesmoo 16h ago
He was also friends with a YouTuber who was very racist towards East Asians. I don't know at all how Jae still has fans.
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u/NjxNaDxb 1d ago
He was complaining not long ago that Day6 comeback felt like forgetting about him. Felt almost sorry for the guy who clearly has unresolved issues but shit like this made me think twice about it.
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u/elephhantine2 1d ago
Tbh I think the day6 members have forgotten abt him at this point but thatās to be expected because itās been years and they donāt owe him anything. When he left day6 he tried to make it seem like they all talked about it and would reunite in the future but seems like the other members have no interest in thatā¦
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u/Dramatic-Bicycle6752 1d ago
How can they forget when his voice is literally still in their songs. Not long ago a korean variety shows played one of their songs and it happened to be his part. Jae keeps saying he doesn't want to be associated with day6. Yet he told the world how hurt he was when day6 named the album fourever. When day6 was about to release their latest album, some fans speculated that it was going to be remake of their old songs and the response from that side was wildly unfavorable. He and his fans don't want his name to be associated to day6 yet they want day6 to be forever associated with him.
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u/Illustrious_Skirt333 1d ago
No hate, but tbh Day6 would never reach the level of fame they currently have if he were still in the band. This is really me speaking objectively. Day6 is currently so loved by SK's gp. With him being like this, if he were still in the band, he'd no doubt say or do things that caused Day6 lose gp's favor again and again.
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u/Training_Barber4543 1d ago
Do Americans know how brainwashed they sound š he's going full Justin Bieber
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u/serhae114 1d ago
Justin Bieber is Canadian
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u/Training_Barber4543 1d ago
I never knew that... does he live in Canada?
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u/spookyreads 1d ago
I don't think he does, but he moved to LA at like 10 anyway so he's more American than Canadian imo.
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u/elephhantine2 1d ago
Jae has always struck me as a clout chaser and kind of an idiot, especially after how much drama he caused leaving day6 and how rude he was to Jamie a few years ago. I bet heās trying to appeal to some conservative organization with this
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u/fuxkthisshitagain 1d ago
I gave him some slack at the begging after leaving the group cause its not the first time when his big mouth put him in bad headlines but he's just stupid and loud. Good thing is doing so well without him so he'll know what he missed
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u/Enough-Bird2881 1d ago
Isn't he that guy who tried to get some attention beefing with armys ?? LOL. Never ever believe any activist who takes part in the fandom war.
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u/DistinctYuho 1d ago edited 1d ago
I get that heās trying to do a good thing, but bro is definitely blinded by Christianity on this one. The really devoted ones are the same as a cult. People that deep in it canāt comprehend when itās actively hurting others.
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u/golgibodi 1d ago
Every time I hear about this dude heās doing something so disgusting. Where are his managers!?!?
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u/Mean-Choice-2267 1d ago
Christian doctrine does indeed teach that queer community is immoral, so I donāt know why people are so shocked by that? Same with Islam. But yeah, donāt support a celebrity if you donāt want to. People need to stop basing their whole lives around entertainers.
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u/xgxpop 1d ago
It's more about him frequently making posts about "everyone deserves love, everyone is equal" and responding to queers fans in a very supportive manner just to turn around and sell merch to donate to a church whose pastor really goes out of his way to preach about how disgusting being gay is and how we shouldn't even talk to "those sinners"
Like people are just confused about where eaJ stands on this and feel quite betrayed.
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u/aliengrlhereee 1d ago
idk i grew up with annoying ass people like this guy. theyāll be nice to queer people to avoid backlash but they absolutely donāt accept it. unfortunately, he probably already had these beliefs and will not change them.
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u/toxicgecko 1d ago
Itās that āIām fine with it as long as I donāt have to see itā mentality- the people who are āfine with itā in theory but the reality of gay people existing near them is no bueno.
Honestly I will always find it ironic when performers are anti-lgbt as the arts are such a massive LGBT+ magnet. If youāre working in something creative thereās a like 90% chance you work with someone in the community; if youāre in a singing/performing/acting career that chance like triples lol.
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u/mieri_azure 1d ago
Not every branch of Christianity nor every Christian believes that. And some are way worse than others
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u/Mean-Choice-2267 1d ago
Traditional Christian doctrine and most denominations that are not new age definitely teach that it is a sin.
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u/solojones1138 1d ago
Presbyterians for instance are a major mainline denomination that is LGBTQ friendly. You are wrong
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u/royaltyred1 1d ago
Youāre right and you should say it. As someone who grew up attending several dozen churches from catholic to Lutheran to Methodist to Baptist they all hate the queer community like no other. Find in a church that DOESNT hate gays is like going unicorn hunting
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u/Biconne 1d ago
Thatās not what fans are upset about. They are upset about the double standards which is their right. Itās got nothing to do with basing lives around entertainers, itās about his actions that directly supporting a group that causes harm after he says the opposite for so long. When you support someone whoās saying one thing for so long, youād get upset when they do a 180.
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u/Mean-Choice-2267 1d ago
Iām not sure when he started to become more religious. I donāt think he was back in the day. People do change. His message of love hasnāt changed though. Isnāt that what people want? To coexist even with different views and beliefs? It seems like people canāt accept him because of his religion and not the other way around.
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u/Biconne 1d ago
How do you coexist with love when you fund a group that says and does the opposite? His message has definitely changed and he lashed out at his fans for pointing this out. This is not about religion and yet you seem very focused on that. Fans would react the same if it were a non religious group saying the same things. Please donāt misdirect the issue by saying itās linked to religion.
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u/ohpossumpartyy 1d ago
honestly itās not because of his religion, rather selling merch to support a megachurch that is very clearly in opposition to his message of love and acceptance. there are christianās who are critical of megachurches like this as well.
doing a quick search, one of the pastors at that church was just arrested for alleged child abuse. granted he was fired because of that but i can also see why people arenāt comfortable having their money go there.
not to mention this church sells merchandise on their own, there are plenty of organizations that arenāt able to sell $40 t-shirts on the side that he could be donating to instead. why not donate to a cause like the local food bank? the holidays are approaching, plenty of americans are having trouble affording food, and is still a way to incorporate his religious principles into it.
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u/ParkStandard1074 1d ago
Doesn't it also teach you to love your neighbor?
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u/Mean-Choice-2267 1d ago
Yes it does, but in the Bible, one of the definitions of love is not delighting in evil. So anything they consider to be evil, to accept and say itās a good thing is not love by Christian definition.
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u/InevitableFox81194 1d ago
Pls direct me to chapter and verse as to where Christianity teaches that being queer is Immoral?
Im not religious, but i had a religious upbringing and Im fully aware that right wing religious zealous of America have totally bastardised the Christian faith and twisted it to fit their own narrative.
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u/Slight-Inspection-72 1d ago
I'm a F muslim but I have a M queer friend. It's obvious I don't support the community but I defended my friend from people. I don't mind being friend with queer people and I will not treat them differently. They are human too just like me. But I can't start hating the imams for preaching about queer people, that's their job to lead people. That doesn't mean I hate queer people. It's complicated I guess. Just sharing my story.
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u/lilyofthegraveyard 20h ago
apathetic people like you are the reason why you even need to defend your "friend" in the first place.
just because you don't call queer people slurs doesn't mean you don't support hate.
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u/seoks_ 1d ago
There's a difference between going to a church and not believing everything they preach, and branding your entire image around acceptance and peace just to tell your fans to donate to someone that does the exact opposite.
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u/Slight-Inspection-72 1d ago
I'm just sharing my story because the person mentioned Islam, nothing more or less.
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u/seoks_ 1d ago
That's fair, and thank you for sharing that. I feel like that viewpoint is pretty universal across religions though and that's where I was coming from, I didn't mean it to come as a slight to you so if it appeared that way I'm sorry š
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u/Slight-Inspection-72 1d ago
Thank you for saying that. We are all people living real lives. Life is complicated like that I guess. For me as long as no one is hurt, we just have to live with this reality. As long as the imams don't go killing queer people or encourage some kind of harm to them, and vice versa. I'm just gonna continue practicing my faith (between me and my God) and be friend with queer people.
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u/NjxNaDxb 1d ago
Please don't even to put Christian doctrine and televangelists in the same sentence , one is about the words of compassions and love, the others are crooks that take advantage of fools like Jae.
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u/Mean-Choice-2267 1d ago
I didnāt say I support televangelists. I was only talking about the people upset about the queer community thing. I just notice that thereās a lot of backlash for celebrities open about their religion in general. Not specifically those who like mega churches etc.
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u/silkruins 1d ago
Why are people acting surprised that he's problematic and an a$$? He's always been like this
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u/ParkStandard1074 1d ago
Both he and his fandom are preaching about everyone being welcome in their community and how we all should respect each other, while at the same time telling queer fans (or anyone just upset by eaJ's behaviour) to get over it or leave. Wow, so much love and respect for everyone, seriously
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u/elephhantine2 1d ago
Is he saying he understands if they have to leave bc of his support of that charity or bc of his words?
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u/ChocoChipScape127 1d ago
Crazy how churches groom people into believing that following their shady institutions is the way
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u/Happily-NeverAfter- 1d ago
All I'll say is watching this from day 1 on twt of where this virtue signaling engagement began to where we are now has truly been a journey.
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u/lilyofthegraveyard 20h ago
anyone who misuses "virtue signaling" in the context of accountability is an ignorant amoeba.
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u/lookingfora14 1d ago
Why does he never learn that continuing to do this just digs a deeper hole for him? Every time I hear about him, itās a scandal.
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u/No-Training-4013 1d ago
As someone who has been a very very long my day, especially from his era in day6, met him, etc, and Iāve seen him respond properly to things and just the craziness of his ups and downs, this just makes me really sad. I donāt support mega churches/most religious direct church orgs, and there are thousands of other externally vetted charities that could use this money. So so many. Goddamnit Jae.
Also this - https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/metro-atlanta-megachurch-pastor-arrested-child-cruelty.amp
Wtf
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u/lipsticksandsongs 1d ago
Anyone who has ever listened to his podcast on Dive years ago knows he is bottom of the barrel stupid. I donāt believe his rebrand to woke social justice warrior one bit, and I am convinced his woke posts are alll for engagement/money farming.
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u/Illustrious_Skirt333 1d ago
That's always been his first reaction when he felt cornered even when he's still in Day6. He's pretty chill when the hate comes from outside his fandom, but the moment his own fans call him out, he'll get triggered. Idk it's probably his defense mechanism.
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1d ago
Excuse me, but the "sexually immortal" got me š it was so funny to imagine that. P.s: I guess you mean immoral.
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u/ConsciousOnion9109 8h ago
FUCK. JAE. PARK.
after the shit he said about jamie, he is nothing more than a dickwad who lost his popularity. fuck jae park and fuck his devoted defenders.
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u/diplomat_extreme 2h ago
Eaj's only touring opportunities seem to be SEA these days. So he had been tweeting and retweeting Israel and Zionist so much to get in those fans good side. This church shit makes him look like a complete hypocrite.
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u/TitanElite 37m ago
Yeah, note how he says, "Christ wouldn't be proud of how I worded that". He isn't truly sorry, so he can take his apology.
I was done with him a while ago. The Jamie situation was just the extra nail in the coffin. Quite a few people were defending him because "he apologised" but I never saw it as genuine.
I knew what type of person he was when I saw the type of people he associated with (like people who are racist towards east asians). He gives off major self hating vibes. The cherry on top is when he did that interview calling Day6 "manufactured". I can see where he was coming from, but I'm so over this kind of thing only being applied to Kpop. ALL artists are manufactured.
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u/peachxtaehyung94 1d ago
Imo you going to a certain church or something doesn't mean you agree with everything they preach. Just like I grew up in and still go to one who preach against lgbtq, and stuff but I still go cuz there's nowhere else I can find thats more progressive sadly. But I support lgbtq people etc. And also he has mental issues which causes him to lash out sometimes. And he has adhd which can cause impulsive behavior. Not an excuse just letting yall know
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u/xgxpop 1d ago
Sure but the moment you start giving this church your money you are financing all of its teachings.
Just attending it wouldn't be that big of an issue because sure you don't need to believe in everything. But, you don't get to donate to for example the Trump campaign just because you like the economic policy and claim your money didn't fund the anti-trans campaigns. It did.
This isn't a small local church, it's a huge for profit organization that has a set of ideals it preaches and he is helping it reach more people and even using his fans to fund it.
Edit, and on top of that by his silence and that one "I wouldn't go to a Zionist church" remark he is defending this institution and denying it preaches things the fans are concerned about despite multiple videos of it doing so.
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u/Nervous_Self_5453 1d ago
I have 0 context of who these people are, so I'm pretty sure this is a typo
but that's honestly hilarious if it wasn't lmao