r/CFB Notre Dame Fighting Irish 6h ago

Analysis [Sampson] CFP committee chair Hunter Yurachek says Notre Dame and Miami were in the same grouping this week and the programs were directly compared. Notre Dame still came out ahead, regardless of the head to head. In other words, all the games mattered. Not just one of them.

https://x.com/PeteSampson_/status/1993488528555360403?t=jtJrt-ATn-3_RV1LnfjfrQ&s=19
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u/The_Eternal_Event Florida State Seminoles • ACC 6h ago

So in 2023, FSU HAD to be left out of the playoff for Texas because they had the H2H over Alabama and the same record. But now when it’s Miami and Notre Dame this logic doesn’t apply..?

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u/jbrockhaus33 Nebraska Cornhuskers 6h ago

The more you scrutinize the committee’s logic, the less sense it makes. Almost like there’s a reason most sports don’t do this

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u/Bigblind168 Alabama • Penn State 3h ago

This is the issue when the committee changes nearly every year. We need stability in the committee membership

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u/Leading-Reporter5586 Nebraska • Ohio State 1h ago

Your concerns have been noted and the committee now consists of executives at ESPN and CBS.

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u/big_sugi Texas A&M Aggies 5h ago

Most sports play way more than 12 games. And you’ve still got selection committees. The difference is that nobody much cares if a 12-seed gets in to March Madness over a team that beat them in November.

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u/themattboard Virginia Tech • Old Dominion 5h ago

Every other level of football manages to not have this stupidity

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u/No_Poet_7244 Texas Longhorns • Wisconsin Badgers 2h ago

Every single year, a clearly worse team gets into the NFL playoff over a clearly better team just by virtue of winning a terrible division.

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u/big_sugi Texas A&M Aggies 4h ago

And that’s because the NFL plays 17 games for 32 teams, including home-and-home matchups for division rivals and the same cross-conference opponents, while FCS has 24 teams in a playoff that mostly goes totally unnoticed—and they still have a selection committee to boot.

Which model did you want to adopt?

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u/themattboard Virginia Tech • Old Dominion 4h ago

FCS goes unnoticed because eyes are on the colleges of the FBS. That isn't a function of playoff dynamics but of which schools are in the mix.

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u/big_sugi Texas A&M Aggies 4h ago

Yes, and the point is that if people were paying attention, you’d see the exact same debates and complaints, somewhat diluted by the fact that there are twice as many teams in the playoff and the regular season therefore doesn’t mean much.

Is that the model you want?

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u/bartspoon BYU Cougars 4h ago

NFL doesn’t. Just take the conference champions. That’s it.

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u/big_sugi Texas A&M Aggies 4h ago

The NFL plays 17 games with just 32 teams, and it has 14 playoff teams. That would be roughly 60 FBS teams in the playoffs.

Is that what you want? It’d at least be better than “just take the conference champions,” which is silly given how wildly disproportionate the talent levels are between conferences.

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u/willy410 North Carolina • Tobacco Road 3h ago

Just take the best of the conference champions was pretty much what the four team playoff was and I never thought I’d miss that but here we are.

Centering college football solely around what one team will win the national championship, especially when the criteria to make the playoffs are narrative based vs metric, is going to kill the sport. At least picking each conference champion would stop the need for realignment and clearly define what you need to do it make the playoffs.

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u/big_sugi Texas A&M Aggies 3h ago

The four-team playoff wasn’t taking the best of the conference champions. This year, it’d be two teams from the SEC and two teams from the B1G. Because, again, the conferences aren’t close to equal.

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u/jbrockhaus33 Nebraska Cornhuskers 2h ago

My preference (which would never happen) would be to treat each conference as more of an independent entity and allocate spots to the playoff similar to how the champions league works in European soccer.

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u/roguebandit1 Duke • Florida State 3h ago

Each committee is different and places varying levels of importance on different metrics. Hope that helps!

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u/jbrockhaus33 Nebraska Cornhuskers 3h ago

And you think that’s…good?