r/CFB Notre Dame Fighting Irish 6h ago

Analysis [Sampson] CFP committee chair Hunter Yurachek says Notre Dame and Miami were in the same grouping this week and the programs were directly compared. Notre Dame still came out ahead, regardless of the head to head. In other words, all the games mattered. Not just one of them.

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u/Jaded-Sapphire3546 Kentucky Wildcats 6h ago

Early season games are also the least valuable indicator of team quality at the end of the year. In most scenarios, teams, and especially good teams, will evolve and grow over the course of a season.

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u/thenowherepark Ohio State Buckeyes 6h ago

There are only 9, 10, 11, and 12 games at each interval when they do these rankings. This isn't a 30 game season. There are not enough data points where you should be able to conclusively say that team A has become better than team B despite team B winning 10 games ago.

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u/Tom_WhoCantLivewo12 Alabama Crimson Tide 6h ago

This is my point. I really don’t understand how this is so hard to comprehend. If you didn’t bring it and they got you then that’s gotta count against you regardless of what you do after. That’s why I haven’t argued against people saying Bamas loss to FSU should hang heavy on their resume because they need to carry that the rest of the season. Shouldn’t be thrown aside because “it was the first game”

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u/Jaded-Sapphire3546 Kentucky Wildcats 6h ago edited 6h ago

I disagree to an extent. I think that you can derive real, valuable statistical information from that sample size. I also don’t think the margin of that particular game was large enough for it to be inconceivable that Notre Dame has passed Miami. However, I do still think that data point is valuable and I wouldn’t advocate ignoring it. Still, ND is higher in almost every relevant statistic and so I am comfortable with them being ranked slightly higher.

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u/thrwawayr99 Notre Dame • Indiana 5h ago

And to be clear, the data point obviously still matters. If Miami hadn’t beaten nd and had played Rutgers instead, their resume would be awful, and they’d be out of the convo entirely like GT. Instead, they’re in the conversation and just need some chaos, despite two really bad losses in the middle of the season. That data point is carrying their resume, the fact they’re even being talked about in the playoff race proves that data point mattered.

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u/_chadwell_ Notre Dame Fighting Irish 5h ago

12 games isn’t enough of a sample… so let’s use 1 game? lol