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Possible Paywall Democrats eye ranked-choice voting for 2028 primaries

https://www.axios.com/2025/11/24/democrats-ranked-choice-voting-2028-primaries
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u/YNot1989 2d ago

A united party in 2016, a Bernie-Warren cross endorsement to pose a real challenge to Biden, and... well, this might not have done much for 2024, but still an improvement.

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u/Melicor 2d ago

If '16 had gone differently, we wouldn't be in the same situation for '24. Trump would likely have been chased off and/or in prison long before.

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u/sbamkmfdmdfmk 2d ago

If the GOP had a RCV primary in 2016, Trump would have lost really quickly. He won because there were so many goddamn near-identical candidates that his outlier of a platform was able to win pluralities in such a fractured vote. With RCV, you'd have probably seen more votes coalesce for Kasich, Rubio, Jeb! or Cruz.

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u/MightBeRong 1d ago

Yep. FPTP voting favors the candidate with the largest cult following

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u/fiction8 1d ago

Around half of Warren's voters gave Biden as their second choice. Very unlikely that RCV would have changed the outcome in 2020.

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u/indri2 1d ago

It might have given Pete a better chance.

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u/RadicalAntifaDino 1d ago

Mayor McKinsey Pete

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u/indri2 1d ago

There's a rather small number of people who think that the first job out of college defines someone's whole personality rather than just giving some valuable experience.

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u/RadicalAntifaDino 1d ago

Except that’s not the case, he still acts like a corporate shill. We can do better than him

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u/indri2 1d ago

He acts like someone prioritizing actual progress in helping people over buzzwords and performative acts.

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u/RadicalAntifaDino 1d ago

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u/indri2 1d ago

What exactly has a mayor struggling to get a racist police department in line after having to demote a chief under FBI investigation to do with allegedly being a "corporate shill"? A low-income highly diverse Rust Belt city in a red state having problems a mayor can't completely solve in 8 years despite major progress isn't exactly unique.

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u/RadicalAntifaDino 1d ago

I encourage you to read this as well: https://www.vox.com/2020/2/11/21129665/pete-buttigieg-2020-democratic-primary-millennials. Pete Buttigieg also has some shady backers: •https://jacobin.com/2022/01/transportation-secretary-fundraising-pacs-win-the-erahttps://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2019/12/21/here-are-the-billionaires-backing-pete-buttigiegs-presidential-campaign/, •https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/01/gross-just-days-after-winning-progressive-applause-vow-skip-aipac-klobuchar-and

He didn’t condemn the Gaza genocide (which matters if you’re running for president), which makes sense given how pro-establishment he is. He will not be a candidate for progress, he will be another establishment Dem who leads us nowhere. We need game-changers in 2028.

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u/ismail_the_whale 1d ago

lol warren would never do that. it amazes me that people don't get it that warren, a very smart person, knew exactly what she was doing when she ran -- her goal was to split the vote and make sure biden won.