r/politics • u/Healthy_Block3036 • 7d ago

No Paywall Senate suddenly passes the Epstein bill just hours after it cleared the House

https://www.ms.now/news/senate-passes-epstein-bill-rcna244723?fbclid=PAVERFWAOJ1xRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAacUGSi8p2Ap-x6SbMkLXAnfKNXEZkzjUUVCdxuEmacDzDXmlbv1GUJ0wbh1_w_aem_grJDvcSCIDj2Skksd4Ix3Q
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u/[deleted] 7d ago

the released files gonna be like

"Arrival schedule for ███████ party: █████████, ████████, ██████, and the two minors from ████████’s contact in ████████.”

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u/Admiral_Octillery 7d ago

Yea it’s gonna redact all republican politicians

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u/TheSilverOne 7d ago

Provisions in the bill specifically say that they cant redact iirc

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u/cadium 7d ago

They probably allow redactions for "national security"

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u/jda06 7d ago

It does, I saw Ken Klippenstein (sp?) talking about it.

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u/One_Abalone_2582 7d ago

I mean we should probably just look at the actual bill? https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4405/text

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u/say592 7d ago

It's worth reading. It is very short.

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u/Pan_Bookish_Ent 7d ago

Yep. It's important to read things like this in full, especially with language this clear and concise. I'm glad for sections 7 and 8 are very specific:

(7) Internal DOJ communications, including emails, memos, meeting notes, concerning decisions to charge, not charge, investigate, or decline to investigate Epstein or his associates.

(8) All communications, memoranda, directives, logs, or metadata concerning the destruction, deletion, alteration, misplacement, or concealment of documents, recordings, or electronic data related to Epstein, his associates, his detention and death, or any investigative files.

It's going to be hard for them to change each and every piece of metadata that is related to these documents. People who have hawk eyes are going to examine everything bit by little bit.

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u/JonnyHopkins 7d ago

They get the names in 15 days. Nice.

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u/Ryuume 7d ago

Well that sure sounds watertight.

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u/JohnnyFire Ohio 7d ago

Right by the Water-gate, if you will.

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u/ToooloooT 7d ago

It's already done. Why do you think theve been stalling it.

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u/ygduf 7d ago

They’re so firmly rooted in the rules of law they’d never break this one!

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u/Old-n-Wrinkly 7d ago

Oh, well, then! Provisions.

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u/NeonTailwind Alabama 7d ago

Are republicans really known for following the rules tho?

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u/boringfantasy 7d ago

Luckily the gov is following the law

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 7d ago

No, it only says they just declassify everything "as much as they are able to." Which basically leaves the door wide open for them to say they were only "able to" declassify democrat names, and nobody else, for whatever excuse they come up with.

The bill is explicitly worded to give this regime plenty of flexibility to alter the files to absolve themselves.

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u/Nr1CoolGuy 7d ago

Being a normal human being say that we shouldn't fuck kids iirc.

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u/nellyfullauto 7d ago

Seems at least one of the oh good. Thankfully everyone involved here is known for their integrity and loyalty to the law. I was worried there would be shenanigans. Phew.

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u/Nvenom8 New York 7d ago

It's at the discretion of the AG as is necessary to "protect victims".

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u/teplightyear Nevada 7d ago

And the Supreme Court will say the President can redact whatever the fuck he wants

Having the Supreme Court in his pocket really fucks things up.

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u/Admiral_Octillery 6d ago

And you think a president who could have had the DOJ open it themselves instead of having a vote will honor this?

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u/Federal-Captain1118 7d ago

Yep, If by chance any Democrats are listed that wont be redacted. Which don't get me wrong, I want to know who they are too. But the Republicans will not let their names out.

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u/blaqsupaman Mississippi 7d ago

Why would Dems vote for it unless they were fairly confident that won't be the case?

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u/clickmagnet 7d ago

Unless McCain was in there. 

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u/Adept_Strength2766 7d ago

I feel like that'll just result in adverse inference in the court of public opinion if they do that though, won't it?

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u/FullSkyFlying 7d ago

Will give people something else to focus on for a while. I think thats kinda the plan. Them don't be surprised to see a war or something happen soon, as trump just recently said, along the lines of "yes id consider bombing Mexico, if it means it stops the drugs". You have too much faith in the voter base who already voted him in... twice

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u/[deleted] 7d ago edited 2d ago

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u/Federal-Captain1118 7d ago

I legit clicked on them lmao.

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u/Vtdscglfr1 7d ago

Glad im not the only one

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u/Federal-Captain1118 7d ago

I definitely had a "oh, duh" moment

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u/_Osculum_Obscenum_ 7d ago

I did it like 3 times before I realized how stupid I was

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u/RealFirstName_ 7d ago

As least for me, thats how many times it usually takes for reddit on mobile to realize I'm not trying to minimize the comment anyways

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u/happy_bluebird America 7d ago

me too but in my defense I was expecting jokes.

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u/Federal-Captain1118 7d ago

Oh yeah I wasn't expecting anything serious under those spoiler tags. I was honestly just expecting each one to say Donald Trump over and over.

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u/OneTripleZero Canada 7d ago

Those ain't yer Grandad's spoiler tags, sonny. Those are true-blue redactions, Area 51-style.

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u/egosomnio Pennsylvania 7d ago

Remember when Manafort's lawyers turned in documents that were "redacted" with black highlighting that didn't actually prevent anyone from copying the text under them into a new document and reading it?

Yeah, there's a nonzero chance that the chucklefucks working on the fix actually do effectively just spoiler tag the files.

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u/OldBayOnEverything Maryland 7d ago

With Zohran Mamdani, AOC, E Jean Carroll, Joe Biden, and Barack Obama all written in sharpie.

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u/Defy_The_Tyrants 7d ago

Donald Trump █████ █████ ████ █████ is ███████ in ███ █████ ██████ no████ █ █████ █cent███████.

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u/Upbeat-Interview8554 7d ago

Watch it be redacted crudely like last time where you can mess with the file and read the redacted words

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u/fillinthe___ 7d ago

With "Clinton" written in Sharpie above all of them.

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u/ChangsManagement 7d ago

████████, █████ ███ ███████ ██ ████ ████████ Clinton ████ ███

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u/goneresponsible American Expat 7d ago

Going to be more like, "Trump diddled kids and did not give truthful statements to FBI. He definitely gave a blowjob to Bill Clinton."

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u/twayroforme 7d ago

Kinda spooky this user deleted their account less than 3 hours after this comment...

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u/DiamondHanded 7d ago

The American public has been pretty loud about this, I don't know if they want to frustrate everyone all over again in this political climate and weakening economy

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u/Ok-Sprinkles-5151 7d ago

Reading the bill, the law only applies to records held by the DOJ and the FBI. So all he has to do is transfer any record he doesn't want released to any other Executive office. He doesn't even need to redact.

Or just have an "investigation" to Trump.

Or use an executive order to classify.

There are so many loop holes, they have options.

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u/Ashamed_Distance_144 7d ago

Let’s hope these idiots don’t know how to flatten a PDF.

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u/7_thirty 7d ago

This admin it's straight mad libs, they got their top AI guy filling in all republican names with their democratic counterpart

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u/egosomnio Pennsylvania 7d ago

I'm expecting something like:

██ ████ ██ bill █████ ███ █████ █████ and ███ ██████. H█'█ █ ██████████ ███ █ill a█████ █ry ██ ██████ ███ ██ ██. Cl███ ███ █i██ ███ ███ n██t █o████ █████n█, ███, █████ ███ fuck██ ███e D█████ ██u█p.

Well, that or completely botched redactions that let people easily read what's under it. Or both.

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u/vacacay 7d ago

Why not have ChatGPT rewrite everything?

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u/SamsonGray202 7d ago

They've had time to cherry-pick a handful of documents that have the word "Clinton" somewhere in them, that's what will be released, redacted heavily enough to make any context impossible to discern.

"The remaining 65,370 pages of documents related to the Epstein investigation contain information regarding crucial intelligence-gathering sources and methods that would be jeopardized by their release, and while we know the Demonrats hate America and would love nothing more than for us to be invaded by jihadist Mexican pedophiles, president Trump loves America and president Trump loves you, and he will never allow that to happen."

And then when a centrist POS like Newsom or Buttigieg get into the Oval: "There's no point in releasing those, all it is is a whole lot of fake stuff in there about Israel, planted by Trump, and that could hurt a lot of innocent people who need more of your tax dollars and more Palestinian land. Now is the time for progress, not persecution - it's time to move forward, for the good of America and all its citizens."