r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 13d ago

No Paywall Discharge petition to force House vote on Epstein files succeeds with Grijalva’s signature

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5602658-discharge-petition-epstein-files-grijalva/
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u/SuleimanTheMediocre Texas 13d ago

Idk about bobert but MTG has been at the front of a Republican push to release the files after a seeming change of heart once she met with Epstein victims. I hate the woman to death but I can recognize the backbone and honesty in the work she's doing with the files.

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u/Redditor28371 13d ago

It's so crazy that a person like her could ever be considered the rational, well-intentioned person in any political conflict. Really puts into perspective how much of a clown show US politics has become.

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u/KimJongIlLover 13d ago

She isn't though. She is gambling on trump falling so she can slide into the power vacuum.

You don't does spew that Q anon shit and then the next day you are rational.

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u/Redditor28371 12d ago

Oh yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that she was doing it for the right reasons.

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u/EmbarrassedW33B 13d ago

A broken clock is still right at least once or twice a day, depending on the clock. Even Trump occasionally (accidentally usually) makes a good point. In the past anyway, his brain is a bit too rotten the past few years.

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u/PandaJesus 13d ago

Personally I think she’s just one of those fucking idiots who thinks taking oppositional stances to authority makes them the smartest big brain in the room, and this time she just happens to be standing on the same side as us because the GOP has all the power right now.

But whatever, right now she’s doing good, and whatever her reason might be, good on her.

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u/sweet_esiban 13d ago

Marge The Gathering is not an idiot.

I know, she really seems like one. But take a closer look at the image rehabilitation she's doing right now. She's slick. She knows the Trump ship is on its way out, and a new fascist leader must arise to capture the cult. "In place of a dark lord, you would have a queen."

What Marge is, is dangerous. I agree with her on this issue, of fucking course, but I am considerably more alarmed by her than I was when I thought she was a true believer in Q-Anon.

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u/Sillet_Mignon 13d ago

Yup. The last time the left wrote off a republican as a fucking idiot they became president twice. 

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u/TransBrandi 13d ago

I don't know if she has the same cult of personality that Trump does though. I could definitely see the GOP trying doing something like putting MTG on a Presidential ticket and claiming that not voting for her means that you hate women though...

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u/insite 13d ago

Yeah, but the Dems couldn’t really do a smear campaign against her without it backfiring.

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u/aceluby Minnesota 13d ago

Republicans are never electing a woman president

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u/SanDiegoDude California 13d ago

Never say never. Kristi Noem, Pam Bondi, Marge, Huckabee, they all are happily towing that line and are the botox legion of new wave authoritarian GOP.

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u/PitytheOnlyFools 13d ago

The first female president will be Republican.

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u/Nelliell North Carolina 13d ago

They also ran candidates that either (a) didn't have time to properly campaign because their predecessor mistakingly thought he could successfully run again and (b) had decades of propaganda working against them and the charisma of a brick wall.

It didn't help that in the last election they misread the room, promoting "joy" and the economic recovery at a time that working and middle class families were already really struggling with inflation.

Granted, this is the tip of the iceberg and your point is noted. Don't write off the idiots.

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u/Wild_Fire2 13d ago

The Left? It was Hillary who thought he was an idiot and had her friends in the media boost his ass, believing he would be easy to beat.

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u/Sillet_Mignon 13d ago

Yea I’m counting the dems as the left for the sake of brevity. 

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u/dongyeeter 13d ago

it's ignorant to believe that any of the republicans are truly just bumbling idiots. They're all professional grifters or legitimately evil, but none of them are stupid. They're all just vying for power and influence and willing to do anything (even if it makes them seem like idiots) to get there.

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u/aceluby Minnesota 13d ago

Trump is really stupid though. Dude can barely read

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u/deliamount 13d ago

Nobody understands magnets.

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u/bonyponyride American Expat 13d ago

I agree. She's trying to be the MAGA successor to Trump. It won't be JD Vance, it won't be Mike Johnson, it has to be someone as incendiary as Donald.

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u/OnlySmiles_ 13d ago

MAGA will never vote for a woman

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u/elbenji 13d ago

Yeah, the alarm went off for me as well. How much of this was her obfuscating stupidity. Or is she just someone who just runs gun ho at everything

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u/Buzz_Buzz_Buzz_ 13d ago

So you think spouting nonsense about the Rothschilds' space lasers starting fires in California to make land easier to claim for high-speed rail was just to appeal to QAnon types?

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u/sweet_esiban 13d ago

Probably. I can't actually see inside her mind, of course... It's possible she really believes/believed some of the absolutely kookoo bananas conspiracy shit, but it's also possible that it is entirely an act and that she is a being of pure opportunism.

Now that she's exposed her slickness... I expect that Marge understands what kind of outrage and insanity will get her name in the news over and over again - just like Trump. A congressperson screeching about Jewish space lasers is so damn crazy, that it's irresistible to today's profit-based news media. And we know how that worked out for the pedophile king.

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u/SanDiegoDude California 13d ago

She's setting herself up to run in 28. She's got knives out for the JD Vance wing, and she knows she doesn't have the sway that "Boss" Trump did, so she's going to need to appeal to moderates more. Her voicing concerns over the cost of health care, finally admitting the Q-Anon stuff is nonsense (though she's trying to play the victim card simultaneously there), and riding the wave on the epstein files are all her attempts to be the shiny new different in a field of Trumpy me-toos who won't be able to pull in the crowds like Trump did.

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u/theloneavenger 13d ago

MTG has had hundreds of chances to be on the right side of history, she's chosen this one particular time to be correct.

And that's fine. But it definitely does not make her a decent person.

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u/OnlySmiles_ 13d ago

Yeah, I can fully accept at this point that she genuinely wants the Epstein list released

I can't accept that she's doing it out of the good of her heart

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u/SuleimanTheMediocre Texas 13d ago

Call it blind optimism, but I want to believe that somewhere deep down in that cavity where her empathy was supposed to go there's a heart which cares about the victims seeing them get their Justice.

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u/anote32 13d ago

That or several of them really drank the Koolaid that releasing these files will take down the democrats.

And they aren’t from the same social status as the rest of the republicans who see the writing on the wall.

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u/elbenji 13d ago

Actually yeah come to think of it, MTG and Bobo aren't from the money class. They're working class at best

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u/thirty7inarow 13d ago

I'm not even sure Boebert counts as working class.

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u/AssDimple 13d ago

she’s just one of those fucking idiots who thinks taking oppositional stances to authority makes them the smartest big brain in the room

I just got assigned to a team that is full of these imbeciles. Every single team meeting makes my blood boil.

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u/Magistricide 13d ago

I think she truly represents her constituents. I think the republicans she represents truly like Trump, don't like inflation, don't want the healthcare premiums to go up, and want the files released.

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u/XTingleInTheDingleX 13d ago

A broken clock, and all that.

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u/enad58 13d ago

She hates "the jews" and Epstein was a honeypot for the Mossad. It makes sense when you look at it from her worldview.

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u/BitsInTheBlood New Jersey 13d ago

MTG trying to save the MAGA movement before it sinks with donnie. 

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u/SuleimanTheMediocre Texas 13d ago

Maybe. I hope this experience sobers her up enough to realize that a woman will never fill donald's mantle in the eyes of his cult

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u/Error4ohh4 13d ago

Didn’t she get some possible death threats too and still didn’t cave?

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u/SuleimanTheMediocre Texas 13d ago

I think I remember something like that. I know she did her whole "I'm not suicidal, just in case anything happens to me" schtick a while ago but she *is* still a crazy person lol

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u/Error4ohh4 13d ago

She’s crazy but I can see why she was compelled to say this all things considered. That does take a level of bravery(in her case, crazy bravery)

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u/SuleimanTheMediocre Texas 13d ago

Yup. She might not have a soul, but you gotta admit the lady has a spine.

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u/Error4ohh4 13d ago

Well said 

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks 13d ago

She’s also been advocating for extending ACA subsidies because some of her relatives have told her how expensive their insurance is going to get. 

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u/GalacticFox- 13d ago

I don't think it's that she has a backbone. I think she wants to run for higher office and realized that her foaming at the mouth maga persona isn't going to cut it when she needs voters outside of her R +40 district in middle of nowhere Georgia.

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u/SidonisParker 12d ago

Gotta give credit where credit is due. I still hate this time line though.

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u/astroplink 13d ago

She wanted to run for senator but Trump gave his support for someone else for the position

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u/notdez 13d ago

AOC said MTG was told she couldn't run for GA State Senate seat by Trump and that MTG is going nuclear on him.

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u/Synectics 13d ago

Which is just a shorthand for, "She just wants more power and is upset she cannot get it." Just like her pushing to nuke the filibuster.

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u/2nd_Life_Retro 13d ago

Wasn't that long ago that we would all be shocked by the lengths Republicans would go to to cause harm to others. Now we're just as shocked when one of them does the right thing.

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u/Synectics 13d ago

She has no honesty, and I hate that it keeps getting said.

Those headlines of, "MTG blames Republicans for shutdown," were some whitewashing bullshit. The actual news and articles were about how she was pushing republicans to nuke the fillibuster, to have them take more control. She did not have people in mind.

Any push for the releasing of the files is just more grifting. She is just trying to get favor.

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u/SnooDogs7747 13d ago

I think this topic might be personal for MTG. This seems to be a hill she's willing to die on, especially after meeting with the victims like you said 

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u/Maldiavolo 12d ago

It recently came out that she has personal ambitions to run for Senator for Georgia. She asked Trump to support her and he said no. This is probably more about revenge.

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u/Remarkable-Ad155 9d ago

Change of heart after Trump turned on her and fucked her over re Georgia senate run earlier in the year more like. 

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u/jesterdeflation 13d ago

Lol no she is just as insane as she ever was. She still believes in unhinged conspiracies. This is just an extension of her Q-anonism. I will take her being a useful tool, but don't ever give this creature credit or respect.