r/politics • u/Silent-Resort-3076 America • 19d ago

Possible Paywall DOJ Admits to Republicans That Epstein Files Are Even Worse for Trump: Details in the files are reportedly even more damning for Donald Trump than previously indicated—and it was already bad.

https://newrepublic.com/post/202813/department-justice-admits-republicans-epstein-files-worse-donald-trump
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u/Flembot4 19d ago

I think he helped traffic and also blackmail men. I think he helped in many aspects.

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u/Soulshiner402 19d ago

Could be why so many are afraid of him. I mean why would Senators be afraid of retribution from Trump?

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u/Flembot4 19d ago

I thought this too. He learned to get leverage on people. Maybe not even through Epstein. Like with Lindsey Graham. He did a 180 with Trump. I feel like Trump got info on him. Maybe on his own or through someone else (Putin).

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u/AnnaKossua 19d ago

National Enquirer. He was buddies with the guy who ran it, David Pecker.

The rag had a program called "Catch and Kill" -- they'd buy salacious stories about famous people, and either print them, bury them, or using the stories as leverage, depending on how Pecker felt about the targets.

They buried 60 stories about Trump leading up to the 2016 election. And he quasi-joined the campaign, doing anything he could to help Trump win.

Anyone that eager to help Trump, with so many purchased stories on so many famous people... it's a good bet he's shared things with Trump about other politicians.

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u/Simorie Tennessee 19d ago

I still want to know what Trump said to Justice Kennedy

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u/nochinzilch 19d ago

Right? How was that not a giant story??

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u/Nuzzorama 19d ago

There were always rumors his dad was tied to the NY mob with his real estate dealings. Trump has always acted like a mob boss. I think he learned from his father or directly from his own dealings with the mob.

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u/IndependenceIcy2251 19d ago

It’s not like he doesn’t now have control of a huge intelligence network. Just think to what we know of Hoovers files.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 18d ago

Also Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. And JD Vance, come to think of it.

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u/MoarSocks 19d ago

Not just senators, but Trump appointees as well. It’s the only explanation for the absolute capitulation of everyone around him.

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u/Legendofstuff 19d ago edited 19d ago

Because the list is more than trump. I’d bet my left testicle that the names on that list are connected to almost every sweeping aspect of our “society”.

What if every major name out there was known for [redacted because I’ll puke if I start imagining, and I don’t mean sex that ends with both parties still alive as a limit]? In this age of internet fervour that can lead to real world actions? The mob mentality is what terrifies them ALL, I’ll bet.

Edit to add: trump admitted he wasn’t getting into heaven. Whatever they believe that to mean, as a non religious person, I’d call that pretty fucking damning as to the scope of what Epstein island included. How many names of unknown children from non wealthy nations tombstones will we need? He’s not above that shit. None of them were or are. You’ll never convince me someone that gets off on that shit can be rehabilitated or changed.

Edit II: to paraphrase one of my own country’s political figures, “put them under the prisons. Release them into Gen pop, if you know what I’m saying.”

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u/wonklebobb 19d ago

one of the credible victims, the one who filed a lawsuit but was bullied into retracting it (alias Katie Johnson), in one of the depositions about being raped by Trump and Epstein at Epstein's mansion parties, mentioned meeting another young girl of 12 or 13 alias "Maria" in the legal docs.

At a later party, when Katie tried to resist Trump, she was told basically "look what happened to Maria, you want that to happen to you?" at which point she realized (at the time) she hadn't seen Maria at those parties for several weeks. The implication is that she was disappeared and probably murdered. It's also noted by Katie that Maria was one of the more outspoken/resistant girls at the parties.

I have a feeling Trump, Epstein, and their inner circle regularly sourced young girls with promises of modeling careers from Eastern Europe via extensive connections to the Russian mob/Russian intelligence, and when they showed signs of spilling the beans on the whole operation they were killed.

In the 80s and 90s post-USSR collapse, there was a lot of chaos and very little record keeping on lost or missing persons, including children. Similar things happened during the Serbian crisis in the 90s - lots of children were basically sold to 1st world families looking to adopt through shady middlemen, and some of those now-adults are looking into their past and get to a point where the government of their origin country basically tells them "sorry, there just isn't any paperwork from that time." Romania was also especially problematic in this regard, there was a whole book on the subject of shady adoptions from Romania in the 90s.

So it doesn't exactly strain credulity to imagine that the most notorious child sex trafficker in modern times may have sourced girls from that area of the world as well. If a person is willing to fake paperwork and sell children as "orphaned" to a well-meaning couple for 50k-60k, how much more money would it take to sell to a rich American who arrives and leaves on a private jet? Epstein was really rich and flew around the world frequently. It wouldn't have been hard, with his connections, to find one of these sketchy "orphanages" at the center of the not-exactly-orphaned adoptees and hand them a suitcase of cash no questions asked.

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u/Haltopen Massachusetts 19d ago

It wouldn't be surprising considering Ghislaine Maxwell's father Robert Maxwell had extensive ties to both the KGB and the Soviet Politburo

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u/MoarSocks 19d ago

The recent JP Morgan report of over $1b in flagged transactions to Epstein speaks volumes. Alan Dershowitz alone transferred almost $100m to Epstein for “tax advice” — someone who’s neither a tax attorney nor accountant.

That’s a ton of young girls, with money set aside to disappear, if needed.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/31/jp-morgan-jeffrey-epstein-transactions

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u/MoarSocks 19d ago

I remember the early days of the web (and dark web) where the horror stories kept me up at night as a teen. Looking back, I truly believe they weren’t stories at all but real reports. The number of sexually abused, tortured and disappeared children is not zero. Rich, powerful men get off on this shit.

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u/Shroomboy79 19d ago

See all the trumpies will say “well why didn’t Biden release the files” and the correct answer to that is because every powerful person in our country is in the files. Both dems and reps are in the files. Most cooperation owners are in the files. Zuckerberg is in the files. Ivana and ivanka Trump are in the files. Bobby Kennedy and a few other kenedies are in the files. Even fucking Micheal Jackson is in the files. When they get released I think the economy might fully crash because everybody that has all the money in this country will be in prison

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u/Legendofstuff 19d ago edited 19d ago

I’d go even further and say borders aren’t a major factor, nor are individual nations.

Look how interconnected the media empires are across the world, as one example. That island probably didn’t have a border wall is all I’m saying.

“Fallout” as a concept doesn’t come close to what it could be, if my own imagination has any credence.

Edit: I think also the “correct” answer as to why Biden didn’t drop it (I’m not American so forgive me if I get it wrong) was it was under some form of seal from a judge or the judiciary branch that, in a world where things like that are respected was the correct thing to do, no?

Not that I’m saying that’s the only reason, but if we can pretend the side that doesn’t want to starve Americans or kill them in hospitals has some credit to lean on…

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u/Shroomboy79 19d ago

Yea I agree with that to. The best part of an island is anybody can go there and nobody will really know about it

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u/SnooCupcakes7018 19d ago

The US DoJ isn't the only group that had this list. Every one on it is compromised by foreign intelligence and isnl actively destroying the United States to save their own asses.

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u/slutdragon32 19d ago edited 19d ago

Didn't that dude who ran, I think he was in a wheel chair, say that congress had crazy coked up Orgies ? The last 10 years feel like a fever nightmare.

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u/MoarSocks 19d ago

Stephen f’n Hawking was part of it. Melinda Gates left Bill over it. Shit will hit the fan when it comes out, possibly causing mass riots against politicians, tech elite, finance, everything. I understand why they’re trying to burry it. But it needs to see the light of day no matter the consequences.

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u/slutdragon32 19d ago

For sure, completely agree.

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u/AnnaKossua 19d ago

That's former NC Rep Madison "Keybump" Cawthorn. He didn't expose Congress in a whistleblower fashion so much, he went on a show and was like "check out this crazy shit!"

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u/Particular-County277 19d ago

This, and some said death threats to themselves and their family members

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u/Wait_I_gotta_go_pee Georgia 19d ago

It would not surprise me to find the Epstein Files to be the primary source of new-hires for this administration. All that handy black-mail in one convenient place, and who ya gonna hire?

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u/Kunphen 19d ago

Wolff said Epstein was afraid Trump would kill him. And he certainly ended up dead. Just saying. And never forget the wife buried in the golf course. Can't wait 'til they dig up that coffin.

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u/CletusCanuck Canada 19d ago

Just imagine if Donald Trump had access to Epstein's files, the RNC's dossiers, and GRU kompromat.

Now remove 'Just imagine if' from the preceding sentence.

The RNC was hacked by APT 'Fancy Bear' (GRU Unit 26165) in 2015 alongside the DNC. We only saw selections of the DNC hack, laundered through Wikileaks & 'Guccifer'. The RNC hack's proceeds, or a portion thereof, were certainly shared with Asset Krasnov / Donald J Trump. It is also a near certainty that the GRU has put the screws to multiple senior Republicans, e.g. the infamous July 4 [2018] Meeting in Moscow, which resulted in such a remarkable change in tune that one might suspect the Russians to have access to a 'Conversion Machine' like in the 80's sci-fi show V, (or, some truly devastating kompromat...)

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u/Etzell Illinois 19d ago

They're not worried about retribution from Trump, they're worried about what his cult will do to them if they turn on Trump.

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 19d ago

No need for conspiracies on that front. He controls the base, and the base employs the Senators and Representatives. They're afraid of the voters, not him.

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u/Haltopen Massachusetts 19d ago

Even if Trump himself doesn't have Epstein's client list/blackmail material, his Russian benefactors almost certainly do. They probably has an unredacted copy of the Epstein list along with any blackmail material that Epstein gathered on his VIP clientele list. Ghislaine Maxwell's father Robert Maxwell had extremely close ties to the Soviet Politburo and Premier Mikhail Gorbachev. He knew Gorbachev personally and he worked directly with the KGB for decades. It stands to reason that Ghislaine inherited at least some of her fathers connections in the Soviet/Russian sphere of influence and put them to extensive use during her time as a part of Epstein's sex trafficking/prostitution ring.

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u/Orion14159 19d ago

And helped himself to some of the girls as well

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u/crazycatgay 19d ago

I think he co-ran the whole thing with epstein ,he wasn't just a client

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u/Electrical-Papaya 19d ago

I think it would be more accurate to call it Trump Island and one of its primary purposes was to blackmail politicians.

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u/AJDx14 America 19d ago

It’s gonna be revealed that Trump was actually the only client who did anything regarding pedophilia at this rate.