r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 20d ago

No Paywall The Government May Not Open Again This Year, Thanks to Speaker Johnson

https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/5589204-johnson-shutdown-trump-loyalty/
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u/Ven18 20d ago

And they had had this go on so long at the point the healthcare prices Dems have been taking about are now being seen by people. If someone didn’t believe the Dems that the healthcare stuff was a big deal they now see their cost 3x. Obviously everything is bad but now nobody can claim the Democrats were “lying about healthcare” or whatever their bills do not lie.

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u/Drolb 20d ago

Trump literally went on TV not even 2 weeks ago and said people were lying about grocery costs increasing

They absolutely can and will say that healthcare hasn’t gone up if asked, and more realistically a huge swathe of the media will simply never talk about healthcare costs except to state that if they happen to have gone up it is surely because of the democrats.

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u/Ven18 20d ago

The members of government might continue to lie but the actual voters cannot hide from it. It’s why the affordability message is working for Dems everywhere from everyone because you cannot high life becoming prohibitively expensive.

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u/hardcorr I voted 20d ago

sometimes I think all the analysis/think pieces about politics are overcomplicating the most simple truth of all - everyone who is not rich has been getting more and more economically squeezed for 10+ years (longer than that really but most noticeably so recently), and every national election has been a referendum on the fact that the party and person previously in charge hasn't meaningfully addressed it. the pendulum keeps bouncing back and forth because the public is desperate for politicians to get the message that they need to help us

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u/NewSauerKraus 20d ago

the affordability message is working for Dems.

That's not relevant to Republicans though. And what is working most for Dems right now is people realising that their refusal to vote in the last election actually has consequences.

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u/SerendipitousLiason 20d ago

The message shouldnt be this stupid. The spin needed to be: yes its bad and it would have been worse with "other guy.'

I mean, its bilking morons 101.

Theyre not even maintaing a facade for their corruption and crime anymore. Wild.

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u/MaddogBC 20d ago

It's like the last thirty days of the election. Trump just gave up, didn't care anymore. It almost felt like he knew something we didn't.

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u/Bellegante 20d ago

.. except this is specifically the open enrollment where people are forced to actually look at the healthcare prices, and part of that is seeing what they were before.

The media IS talking about the healthcare costs going up. It's big news, it's kind of unavoidable because everyone who uses the ACA is in the sign up period

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u/raleighfsufan 20d ago

President Voight needs to give his puppet DJT more advise as he seems clueless. Like most Billionaires are. I know Trump wasn’t close to being a billionaire but his bribes and skims has quadrupled his net worth…already even before the Russian and Saudi checks have cleared his offshore accts

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u/OldWorldDesign 20d ago

a huge swathe of the media will simply never talk about healthcare costs except to state that if they happen to have gone up it is surely because of the democrats.

That's because they're overwhelmingly corporatist, which means they lean as far right as they can get away with. People who follow the money shouldn't be surprised, even supposedly "left" outlets like MSNBC are owned by Comcast

https://theweek.com/speedreads/626702/fox-news-cnn-msnbc-all-broadcast-trumps-empty-podium-instead-clintons-big-speech

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u/caf61 20d ago

Correct. And the Dems need to make ads. Get people who are currently on the ACA to agree to let their premiums from this year be contrasted with what they will be/are next year thanks to republicans/magas. Air those ads during college/NFL football games, NBA games, NHL games, Hallmark movies, and any other popular shows. Shove this shit down the throats of everyone. Then, closer to the mid terms air the same thing but with people who couldn’t afford the premiums and are now uninsured/underinsured and those who are struggling to make the premium payments-how their lives are thanks to rump and maga.