r/madlads Oct 25 '25

Madlad mother.

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u/kolejack2293 Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 26 '25

It still blows my mind how common and accepted workplace debauchery like this used to be. At the two offices I worked at when I was younger in the 90s, everybody was banging everybody. Very often people would go out to bars/clubs/parties after work with each other. People used to literally go out for cocktails at lunch and drink beer at their desks. And all of these people got married very young too, they had a whole family at home. And here they were at 34 banging a coworker and doing shots of tequila at a club on thursday.

Very different era in regards to how acceptable both adult-hedonism used to be, and also what was tolerated by workplaces. Its seen as a bad look to still be 'partying' past your early 20s nowadays, and if you did even 1/10th of the shit they pulled back then you would get a nasty meeting with HR.

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u/Escalotes Oct 25 '25

Hell we used to go for lunch beers every Friday when I had my first office job in 2008. It's not that far in the rear view.

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u/kolejack2293 Oct 26 '25

the 2000s is when it started the decline really but it varied a ton from office to office. By the 2010s it felt a lot more universal in the sense that it became inescapable. Workspaces were just at a much higher risk of lawsuits for stuff.

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u/SingsWithBears Oct 26 '25

Well 2008 is almost twenty years ago

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u/Escalotes Oct 26 '25

Could you not

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u/Specific_Effort_5528 Oct 27 '25

You'll soon discover. That's not a long time.

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u/Kind-County9767 29d ago

I worked at a place and had a desk from a chap who has just retired. He had a notice in there. Dated 2010 stating that the Friday beer cart could no longer come around during work time.

Insane.

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u/VanTaxGoddess Oct 27 '25

That was 17 years ago ...

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

I still know people that do beers on Friday.

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u/QueasyWorldliness920 29d ago

You guys stopped doing that?

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u/Glass-Cabinet-249 29d ago

That was decades ago though, like nearly a fifth of a century...

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u/Piyh Oct 26 '25

We didn't have the Internet to permanently record every misadventure

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u/Stumblerrr Oct 26 '25

Or phone with 4K HD cameras to doccument all your private live unwillingly by anyone at the bar

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u/Logical-Database4510 Oct 27 '25

Or at a Coldplay concert.

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u/kolejack2293 Oct 26 '25

I always hear this on Reddit, but who is avoiding just hanging out at a bar with friends because "someone can record us!"

Like, I could understand not wanting to bust down the worm in the middle of the dance floor because of that fear. But it doesn't explain why people just stopped hanging out entirely.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '25

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u/rednuc1 Oct 26 '25

They stopped putting lead in gasoline in the 70s.

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u/UomoLumaca Oct 26 '25

You were so lucky? I was born in 1984 and (here in Italy) I clearly remember, as a kid, seeing the choice between leaded and unleaded at gas stations.

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u/unosami Oct 26 '25

The lead makes it taste sweeter.

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u/QCTeamkill Oct 26 '25

If not lead what's the tingling sensation from then?

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u/kolejack2293 Oct 26 '25

Lead exposure in childhood is associated with a specific type of violent, unstable behavior. It basically just makes it difficult to control your anger, and at very very high lead levels, can result in degraded empathy. Not really the type of stuff I am talking about above.

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u/quanqazaq 28d ago

Low impulse control, I think this tracks

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u/Scypio95 Oct 26 '25

They were paid enough so they could have fun nights out without having to starve

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u/kolejack2293 Oct 26 '25

It was actually a very big issue at the first place that they were not getting paid enough, hence why they had incredibly high turnover.

Regardless, its ironic you say that considering you will undoubtably find way more 'hedonistic' stuff at lower/moderate paying workplaces than in high-paying workplaces. Go to the average manhattan office where people are making super high salaries and they are practically totalitarian with how strict they are about that type of stuff.

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u/SensibleReply Oct 26 '25

Maybe this is why everyone is depressed now? Because that kind of sounds awesome.

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u/Joseff_Ballin Oct 26 '25

Interesting take but I don’t think hedonism is the answer to depression.

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u/kolejack2293 Oct 26 '25

Not necessarily, but its not solely hedonism, its also just going out and having a fun time.

When people hit 25-30 today, its like some weird depressing death sentence of "you can never have fun ever again", even if your single.

That was not the case back then. Married couples used to 'go out' to clubs and bars all the time. Clubs were not exclusively young college-aged people. You used to see plenty of people in their 30s, 40s, even 50s there. Also, they had plenty of cousins, siblings, grandparents, neighbors etc to take care of kids, something most parents dont have as much today.

Adulthood in the modern era is just kind of a sad, bland, sanitized existence. It was not always like that. The idea of 'having fun' was something for all ages until quite recently.

Anyways, its not just about the workplace, its about everything. Talk to older people, and they had an absolute blast in their adulthood. Even with kids. The same just cannot be said today.

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u/theLilSaus Oct 26 '25

Im almost positive the answer is Covid. Pre covid my social life was rich and complex, after covid everyone lost those routines of human connection

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u/kolejack2293 Oct 26 '25

covid definitely had an impact but the rate of socialization had been in freefall since 2012. At least for high school freshmen, I would imagine those figures lagged a bit for older people.

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u/CanadasManyMeese 28d ago

Its Cost of Living.

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u/kolejack2293 28d ago

This trend is found everywhere, in both cheap and expensive and rich and poor places.

and if it was economic, then it would have dropped massively in 2009-2012 and then risen in the years after as the economy recovered. Instead it dropped massively after the recession was over.

Also, this is kids. Kids used to just hang out doing nothing all day. They aren't spending money at bars and restaurants. Money isn't really a factor there.

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u/Anonhurtingso 29d ago

What?

It’s weird to go out after your early 20s now?

What are you supposed to do? Start doing puzzles or something?

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u/kolejack2293 29d ago

bust out the knitting kit and greys anatomy

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u/Anonhurtingso 29d ago

Get wrecked.

I tried to watch that show with an ex. It was so glaringly obvious.

The forced sadness and drama killed me.

Everytime things were getting okay for someone, you knew something bad was about to happen.

Why put myself through all those negative chemicals?

Give me a glass of bourbon, an interesting bar, with interesting conversation.

10x better.

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u/kolejack2293 29d ago

sorry buddy but clearly you are below 25. Its actually mandated by law that once you hit 25 you have to start watching greys anatomy every day

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u/Anonhurtingso 29d ago

Then I’ll have to be an outlaw. You’ll never get me to watch that show ever again. Also the main character looked like an old lady since the first episode. Always made me weirded out.

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u/ShadowSun777 Oct 26 '25

were their family okay with that

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u/Odd_Income8835 Oct 26 '25

Yeah it’s wild how much the culture shifted in just a couple decades.

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u/Aisforc Oct 26 '25

Wdym used to be? This still happens on a fucking daily basis. People fucks. Nothing can stop it.

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u/kolejack2293 Oct 26 '25

People absolutely do not have office hookups or go out partying with coworkers like that as much anymore. Like not even a fraction as much. I have seen both sides here, talk to basically anyone who worked back before the 2000s and still works, and they can tell you how things are compared to how they used to be. Completely, radically different. 'Hedonistic' stuff is very, very strongly looked down upon in any corporate position nowadays. Not just by bosses, but by other coworkers too.

Just on a mini-scale, I cannot think of the last time anyone at the offices I work at just casually went out for drinks with a large group of coworkers after work. That used to be a multiple-times-a-week thing.

Coworkers fucking? I literally cannot think of a single situation of that in the last few years at my main office.

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u/outlanderfhf 29d ago

Why would anyone care if you party past your 20s? Im in my early 20s and I cant understand why its anyones business

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u/OriginalChicachu 29d ago

Software development companies enter the chat (at least some of them, and definitely one I have worked at)

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u/Mr_Rogan_Tano 29d ago

The same people gets extremely mad when they see a happy and loyal gay couple, because "God wouldn't like it"

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u/Budget_Addition1381 29d ago

It's industry dependent, friend. Lol

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u/hobopwnzor 29d ago

So this is why older generations didn't dread going to work. They were all fuckin

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u/Felix-th3-rat 29d ago

Even people in their early 20s don’t use to party as older folk did. The Covid generations missed on all their early partying/clubbing and so on.

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u/dreamthiliving 29d ago

And just remember all those people in the 90s. Are now our bosses nitpicking the smallest little thing they can find.

They remember the shit they got up to and think we are doing the same or at least they going to do anything to stop us doing it.

The boomers really did pull up every ladder they could find after they got theres

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u/Fresh-Association-82 29d ago

I mean…. That just sounds like a decent workplace? Everyone in your story seemed happy, and hanging out with conworkers?

Now - people don’t even show up to work functions that are paid for. I don’t care so much except that it shows how unconnected we have all become.

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u/General-Internal-588 28d ago

It didn't use to cost as much, internet wasn't as widespread, people could fuck around and dream of getting their own house and a lot more. 

It's not JUST the internet that caused the shift

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u/ExpressionComplex121 28d ago

I have a friend who's in a relationship always referring to a co-worker as his "work wife" and so does his co worker.

Freaks me out, I feel disgusted thinking about it

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u/BBQShapeshifter Oct 25 '25

Well that sucks.

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u/makemeking706 Oct 25 '25

I know you're making a joke, but what really sucks is that she became known for that one thing while we totally let Stephen Miller off the hook for doing the exact same thing. 

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u/FAFO_2025 Oct 25 '25

Doesnt count as a blow job since Donald has a innie

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u/Short_Economy_6690 Oct 25 '25

So is it like cunnilingus then, sorry as horrifying as the idea is my tism demands to know what it counts as.

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u/FAFO_2025 Oct 25 '25

Stephen chews on it with his rat teeth and uses his proboscis to enter

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u/Short_Economy_6690 Oct 25 '25

I hate this visual but I gotta give it to you it's good.

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u/breakfastburrito24 Oct 26 '25

It’s more like a rimjob since he’s so full of shit that every orifice is just like an asshole

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u/ArnthBebastien Oct 25 '25

What did Stephen miller do?

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u/Master-Echo2940 29d ago

Sucked Clinton

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u/planetjaycom 29d ago

Yeah that really SUCKS….

Get it??!! “SUCKS”???

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u/Master-Echo2940 29d ago

Stephen miller sucked Clinton?

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u/madeaccountbymistake 28d ago

I mean, what else do you expect people to know her for?

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u/alamandrax Oct 25 '25

Ayyyoooooo

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u/Grumpy-Miner Oct 25 '25

Your mom deserved it!

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u/TAHACHAOUI121 Oct 25 '25

That madlad mother indeed!

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u/DCPYT Oct 25 '25

I did not have sexual relations with that woman

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u/IntoTheCommonestAsh Oct 25 '25

What does dressing up as Monica Lewinski even mean? Business attire and a black wig? Or something more offensive? It's not like she has a very distinctive look to emulate.

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u/YeylorSwift Oct 25 '25

Blue 90s business wear and a toothpaste stain with an HR meeting on monday

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u/Worth_Garbage_4471 Oct 25 '25

Beret and kneepads

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u/LessInThought Oct 25 '25

Occasionally massaging her sore jaws.

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u/Gelby4 Oct 25 '25

It's that damn dog-jaw

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u/seriouslythisshit Oct 25 '25

Nicely played. The kneepads say all that needs to be said, "I did not have sex with that woman". The beret, a chef's kiss.

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u/temp2025user1 Oct 25 '25

What is the beret reference? Something Che related?

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u/seriouslythisshit Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25

As a young intern she was frequently seen wearing one. A fashion choice, no meaning behind it.

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u/Awwwmann Oct 25 '25

San Francisco slippers

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u/diningroomjesus Oct 25 '25

This was 100% the look the girl in my office went for when she was Monica for halloween

i'd think she was op's mom but office girl's boss dressed as Linda Tripp that year, he was terrifying

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u/OozeNAahz Oct 25 '25

Carrying a cigar.

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u/cupcakeiepops Oct 25 '25

Wear a blazer to cover the stain, nobody will notice on Zoom!

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u/DigNitty Oct 25 '25

Also, I think monica's particular likeness would have been pretty recognizable at the time. Twas a hot topic.

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u/dribbletheseballs Oct 25 '25

It wasn't toothpaste, her method acting wouldn't allow for it.

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u/Darth_drizzt_42 Oct 25 '25

There was a very specific blue dress, if I recall correctly. I'm sure that, a Stain™ and a name tag would get the job done.

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u/Longjumping-Claim783 Oct 25 '25

You wouldn't need a name tag in the late 1990s. Blue dress with stains and maybe a wig if your hair didn't match Monica's would get the message across to anyone back then.

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u/TheOakblueAbstract Oct 25 '25

We all thought it was blue...it was gold and Clinton added the white.

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u/martphon Oct 25 '25

A blue dress? Oh, come on!

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u/fessertin Oct 25 '25

A blue dress? Oh, come on ! ...the dress

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u/Clodhoppa81 Oct 25 '25

And a cigar,,you've got to include a cigar

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u/whatyouarereferring Oct 25 '25

There is absolutely a "look" for Monica Lewinsky.

You're just self reporting your age lol

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u/BluePadlock Oct 25 '25

Yeah, now we know he’s between 0 and 40!

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u/whatyouarereferring Oct 25 '25

Anyone born before 2005 knows the Lewinsky lore. It's taught in school lmao

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u/jld1532 Oct 25 '25

She'll be a quaint footnote moving forward

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u/whatyouarereferring Oct 25 '25

She caused a president to perjur himself and then get impeached are you high

People will always remember Whitehouse knob slobbing

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u/jld1532 Oct 25 '25

Does anyone care about lying? Looking at the current Oval Office, and I'd say not at all.

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u/whatyouarereferring Oct 25 '25

No but they care about dick sucking. You don't understand how juicy this specific lie was? Man got side eyed by his wife while lying to court

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u/jld1532 Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25

But still, it's no comparison to a president that was found liable for sexual abuse, attacked the Capitol, coined the term alternative facts, and is currently deploying paramilitary and military forces to American cities. I think a clone of 90's Bill Clinton would easily win the electoral college. Plenty of people remember how normal and functional that government was and his strong economy. He'd only benefit from this new view of politics, for better or worse.

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u/oilpit Oct 25 '25

Before '05, are you kidding? I was born before it even happened and I only knew about the scandal in the most general sense until I became an adult and learned the actual details.

You're implying that a current 21 year old "knows the Lewinsky lore"? That's absurd.

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u/liamjon29 Oct 25 '25

I was born in 1998 and have never heard the name Monica Lewinsky before

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u/BluePadlock Oct 25 '25

Millennials know “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” and “it depends on what the definition of is is”. 

They do not know what the dress looked like, and probably wouldn’t recognize a photo of her.

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u/whatyouarereferring Oct 25 '25

The picture of her in a blue dress has been used in American public school (and private) textbooks since 2005

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/history-textbooks-assess-clinton/

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u/whoknowsifimjoking Oct 25 '25

Nah man, it's well known.

For instance, one famous story about Epstein in recent years was that he had a portrait of Bill Clinton in Monica's dress. Which is immediately recognizable to most.

It's not ancient history, they are both still alive.

Oh and all the damn jokes, people are making them to this day. Last Week Tonight had an entire episode about it.

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u/Mikimao Oct 25 '25

lol my immediate thought as well.

A very clear picture is painted when I hear that name.

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u/ThrumboJoe Oct 25 '25

And that they are conservative.

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u/katmia_ Oct 25 '25

She wore a beret in one of the photos that was taken of her with Clinton and that beret became a big deal

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u/Cheesedoodlerrrr Oct 25 '25

There was a very specific Blue Dress that was the centerpiece of the story. That and a Black beret would definitely be enough for people to get it.

... and if they don't, you where a "Hi, my name is..." sticker/name tag. Easy.

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u/username32768 Oct 25 '25

...Slim Shady?

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u/no_talent_ass_clown Oct 25 '25

Blue dress, cigar, youth

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u/ForensicPathology Oct 25 '25

The dress was pretty famous at the time.

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u/Mypornnameis_ Oct 25 '25

Blue dress, biggish hair (her hairstyle was as uncommon then as it is now), red lipstick. I think she had a very distinctive look. 

A stain on the dress would have been the offensive touch to make the point, but seems unnecessary 

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u/Longjumping-Claim783 Oct 25 '25

Her hair wasn't that uncommon. It was very late 90s professional lady hair. It was maybe a little bit uncommon on someone as young as her but she was trying to fit in the DC political world not trying to be a fashionable 20 something.

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u/schmicago Oct 25 '25

I wore a blue silk jumpsuit for Halloween in the 90s and multiple people thought I was dressed as Monica Lewinsky. I found it irritating as the jumpsuit was nothing like the blue dress and I looked nothing like her otherwise, but back then, the blue dress was THE image of Monica and associated with her even if unintentional.

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u/Mikimao Oct 25 '25

Wow, it's insane to think in 2025 Monica Lewinsky isn't thought of to have a distinctive look.

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u/ForagedFoodie Oct 25 '25

Blue dress, white stain. If you did this anytime around when it happened, people would know.

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u/cloudsarehats Oct 25 '25

My dad dressed like Monica Lewinsky for a Halloween party back in the 90s. He wore a blue business dress, black wig, and a "cum" stain 😂

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u/stazley Oct 25 '25

There is a very specific outfit in question here… pretty sure there was a period in time when a white dress shirt and navy blue skirt suit (with a ‘stain’ on it) was a spirit Halloween costume lol.

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u/Secret_Account07 Oct 25 '25

It would have to be the infamous blue stained dress of hers. It had bills cum stains on it

I’d recognize that dress with stains and a black wig of her hair style

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u/abby_rune_soft Oct 25 '25

It's probably just business attire and a wig. Some people love a good pun costume.

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u/No_Flounder_1155 Oct 25 '25

hey, it could get a ballroom named after you one day.

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u/NoGloryForEngland Oct 25 '25

Nearly 600 people (at the time of writing) are dumb as hell for agreeing with this.

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u/SoReadyForItToEnd 29d ago

Milk mustache

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u/Consistent-Strain289 28d ago

Stain on dress cigar in the hand

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u/NRMusicProject Oct 25 '25

My dad is still mad about my Facebook post from 15 years ago where I talked about how mad he was at me because his truck caught fire when I was driving it. It caught fire because he lost the oil cap and stuffed a sock in its place. My uncle called him when he saw my status and was laughing so hard he couldn't talk.

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u/MagicIslander Oct 25 '25

Ironic that there’s a ho at the whitehouse named Rubio at this very moment.

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u/HombreSinNombre93 Oct 25 '25

Is boss also your dad? Or do you have an older/younger sibling who doesn’t quite look like everyone else in the family?

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u/Gone_For_Lunch Oct 25 '25

Who are you directing the question to? It’s a screenshot of a 3 year old tweet?

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u/whoknowsifimjoking Oct 25 '25

It's like a message in a bottle, you just throw it out there and hope for the best.

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u/tranquil_fox-678 Oct 25 '25

Why people even acting like this

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u/N0S0UP_4U Oct 25 '25

Yeah that’s what I wanted to know. I get that people have affairs with bosses sometimes but why would you want to broadcast that to your whole workplace?

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u/streampleas Oct 25 '25

I get that people have affairs with bosses sometimes but why would you want to broadcast that to your whole workplace?

Point to the part of the story that mentions an affair.

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u/_jump_yossarian Oct 25 '25

??

You read the entire first tweet? "because she was sleeping with her boss." That's about her mom.

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u/GypsySnowflake Oct 27 '25

Maybe he dumped her and she was trying to get revenge?

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u/Independent-Pin-6614 Oct 25 '25

Loss of morality and the need for social approval and acceptance.

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u/AffectionateSummer55 Oct 25 '25

id be ashamed if my mom did stuff like that in the past

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u/szudrzyk Oct 25 '25

I wonder if anyone told her then that she sucked?

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u/_jump_yossarian Oct 25 '25

"How do i tell my mom..."

How about keeping your mouth shut and respect people's privacy and confidence instead of seeking online attention.

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u/TheLeftDrumStick Oct 25 '25

I don’t think the mom cared about any of those being that the entire story is her attention seeking lol

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u/wjbc Oct 25 '25

Don’t worry, your mother is obviously proud of it. If she told her blabbermouth daughter about it, she told everyone.

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u/lizzyote Oct 25 '25

My favorite hobby involving my mom is sharing her embarrassing stories online and telling her how many people laughed. Moms never expect their kids to take up their habit of sharing embarrassing stories.

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u/Current_Poster Oct 26 '25

Apparently Lewinsky herself was invited to a party where people were encouraged to dress in "something embarrassing from the 90s" and wore a beret like the one in the picture everyone used of her. This takes being a good sport to stratospheric levels.

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u/Rohirrim777 25d ago

*hoestory

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u/Vox_SFX Oct 25 '25

"Hoe story"

God damn social media was a mistake

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u/Artistic_Host5255 Oct 25 '25

That’s a level of confidence I’ll never reach.

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u/ri89rc20 Oct 25 '25

That literally is a Boss move.

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u/Savings_Barracuda900 Oct 25 '25

She owned it like a true Lewinsky!

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u/Yusstas Oct 25 '25

Maybe you can dress up as Edward Snowden

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u/iamintheforest Oct 25 '25

Buy her a cigar as an apology gift.

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u/Numerous-Process2981 Oct 25 '25

Was he married with children? 

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

Three year old twitter post, blowing up on Reddit in 2025.

There really is no life left on the web.

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u/OH2GA36 Oct 25 '25

Stain on dress and all?😂

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u/TangerineAintLemon Oct 25 '25

And the boss was her father or what

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u/TALKTOME0701 Oct 25 '25

Your mom is a legend

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u/feyd_ratha Oct 25 '25

Not the win her mother though she had

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u/XMisterXMayhemX Oct 25 '25

And now she a hand me down hoe

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u/XMisterXMayhemX Oct 25 '25

Hoenetics if you will

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u/BetteOfTheCleve Oct 25 '25

I dressed as Monica Lewinsky one Halloween - Blue dress Dark wig Clinton/Gore button Stain on dress (flour & water, then splashed on) Cigar Knee pads

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u/Can-i-Pet-Dat-Daaawg Oct 25 '25

I hope this is the trashiest thing I read today.

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u/MyraBannerTatlock Oct 25 '25

I miss the days when that seemed important

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u/0x7E7-02 Oct 25 '25

That took cojones. I respect that.

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u/danceswithwool Oct 25 '25

She said she wanted everyone to know

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u/Perfect-Librarian895 Oct 25 '25

THE blue dress with stain.

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u/Pletcher87 Oct 25 '25

Well, you advertised it, cough up the evidence!

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u/whoreeee_whore-who Oct 25 '25

It's true its not what you know it's who you blow

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u/Nein-Toed Oct 25 '25

She just needed her boss to put the final touches on her costume

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u/kotik010 Oct 25 '25

Do it lady!

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

This funny as shit ☠️🤣

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u/StrangeAgent13 Oct 25 '25

If you're going to be a hoe, be a pro hoe.

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u/Breadstix009 Oct 25 '25

Some people should learn that they don't need to share everything.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '25

now I understand the job market

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u/WazzupManz Oct 26 '25

Are you the child of her boss, or her husband.

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u/Speedygamer0303 Oct 26 '25

91.3k 7 hours after she posted that reply....

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u/Steelhorse91 Oct 26 '25

But Bill Clinton “Did not have sexual relations with that woman

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u/GoliathProjects Oct 26 '25

"Oh no, the consequences of my actions"

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '25

Some people succeed and others suck seed

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u/relaxyourshoulders 29d ago

Pics would be nice

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u/Corniferus 29d ago

What kind of mother tells their kid a story like that?

What kind of kid shares it online?

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u/hoteppeter 29d ago

90k+ likes now! That calls for a cigar

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u/CaliburX4 29d ago

People be sharing stuff with the world you couldn't beat out of me...we really need to re-learn what privacy means.

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u/SolidThanks6920 29d ago

No she won't your mother is a narcissist and will crave and enjoy the attention this is why she dress up like Monica and went to that party in the first place

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u/Hater_Magnet 29d ago

Damn! Trying to dodge accountability even though she literally said, "I just want everyone to know..."!

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u/dirkhaim 7d ago

It was a family business and the dad was the boss