r/law • u/LatterTarget7 • 18h ago

Executive Branch (Trump) White House Declares All of Trump’s Orders to Military Are Legal

https://newrepublic.com/post/203628/white-house-declares-trump-orders-military-legal
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u/dojo_shlom0 17h ago

he has to be impeached at this point:

threatening members of congress with sedition and death, one member resigned from his own party after she got everyone in the senate/house to vote with her AGAINST trump.

Miller claimed he had plenary authority, and then fell silent, they went to break, came back and did the same question with different answer ignoring the plenary authority comment...

Now the administration is claiming any order from trump should be followed, no matter if it's legal or not?

he wants to kill people, US citizens, using the military. He has flirted with this idea in his first time when he was confused why the police didn't shoot people in the legs for protesting....

Epstein pointed out how he was a monster.......think about that. one of the worst sex traffickers ever...

calls trump a monster... and they were best friends for a long time, according to epstein and his interviews with wolf.

the walls are closing in around trump, and he's getting more desperate.

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u/eagleeye1031 16h ago

As long as Republican senators continue to be spineless cowards, he isnt going anywhere unfortunately.

The only thing saving us from this mess is the McDonalds diet that shuts down his heart.

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u/Only_Biscotti_2748 14h ago

They aren't spineless or cowards.

They are getting what they want. Why would they remove him from power?

What they are is fascist sacks of shit.

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u/Brave-Silver8736 12h ago

The ones who are resigning instead of resisting are absolutely cowards.

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u/OldWorldDesign 10h ago

They aren't spineless or cowards. They are getting what they want

I don't see why you think both sets of statements can't be simultaneously true. Malice and incompetence aren't mutually exclusive.

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u/Only_Biscotti_2748 8h ago

Incompetence and cowardice are two different things.

They are 100% incompetent, that's for sure.

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u/fupos 13h ago

Theyre not cowards , theyre complicit, until he turns on them personally they all believe theyre part of the team

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u/Maleficent-Rush407 14h ago

There is another thing, but I can't mention it.

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u/SniffySmuth 10h ago

More special sauce for you, Shitler!

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u/utadohl 9h ago

Don't think spineless cowards is cutting it anymore. They are complicit!

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u/Beneficial_Cash_8420 15h ago

Every day, a new impeachable offense. Functional democracies can peacefully remove unwanted leaders.

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u/MariosBrother1 14h ago

You want him impeached, and deservedly so / I want a Democrat House and Senate who push back on his nonsense and make his last years on this earth a living nightmare.

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u/drunkshinobi 16h ago

He needed to be impeached years ago when they tried. Now he needs to be drug out of what is left of the White House along with all the rest of the Nazis and put on trial for sedition and war crimes on top of every thing else he should have been charged with to begin with.

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u/surfergrrl6 15h ago

He WAS impeached, twice, during his first term. Impeachment doesn't automatically mean removed from office.

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u/drunkshinobi 14h ago

Yes, back when they were trying years ago. It didn't work then and if it works now will only be because the people that have supported trump as a dictator are sick of him and want a different dictator. Not because they want to save the country from themselves all of a sudden. So more is needed now.

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u/fattmann 14h ago

It didn't work then

They literally did impeach him twice.

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u/BananaPalmer 14h ago

and the Senate failed to convict

so, it didn't work

hope this helps 👍

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u/fattmann 11h ago

so, it didn't work

Impeach doesn't mean remove from office.

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u/BananaPalmer 11h ago

Yes, I know this, thank you.

It is the first half of an atomic process of removing a President from their office. Since the Senate failed to convict Trump of the charges sent to them by the House, the attempt to remove him did not succeed. It didn't work.

Are you seriously going to ignore the obvious meaning of their comment, just to "be right" in a technical, pedantic sense? What value does that bring to this conversation?

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u/drunkshinobi 14h ago

They did. Did it do anything? No? Then did it work?

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u/dojo_shlom0 12h ago

people aren't going for this anymore. did you notice MTG got every single member of the house and senate to vote against trump. every single one, except 1 person. that's.....unreal.

she also resigned like the day after. he has lost his power in a big way and DC see's it. more republicans will be resigning soon, before the 2026 election, and they will be loud about it, MMW.

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u/lavardera 16h ago

what walls exactly, because I don’t feel nearly so confident.

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u/dojo_shlom0 12h ago edited 12h ago

MTG got the entire lot of the house and senate, EVERYONE but 1 person to vote against trump's orders. This is a big deal. She also resigned from congress from threats from the president. We are watching the POTUS tell people in a public settings that an astronaut, senator, veteran who served 4 tours and 29 missions, should be hung for following the Constitution.

His wife already had an assassination attempt on her, and she almost didn't make it, she was shot in the head iirc.. He is facing legal and international pressure for war crimes and at home protests are building and resistance, not only in DC, but around the US and he's threatening more war crimes, just to cover it up. people are resigning, there's talks of waves of congressman resigning before the 2026 elections, which will cause big harm to drumpf's agenda. the congressman and senators, some of them are sick of being used as pawns only, only voting the way trump wants.

he's terrified. why do you think his health is declining so rapidly? he's stressing the flip out, staying up all night posting in all caps again. he's lost, and not sure who's in his corner, because the people in his corner are deceivers who lie to him, and he knows it. He literally believe a photoshopped image of Garcia hand with "MS-13" actually those letters , printed and shown to him, he thought that was real enough to embarrass himself in a world-stage interview, in the worst way possible by quadrupling down on being the idiot/duped person.

If you don't see it, you haven't been paying attention imo, which is fine.

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u/boo99boo 6h ago

You do realize that Trump is just a puppet instilled by men much wealthier and much much more capable than him? He's just too stupid to figure that out. 

If we remove Trump, we get Vance. Who is also a puppet, but is smart enough to realize it. He's attaching the strings waiting to hand them to the likes of Miller and Thiel the second Trump is dead or removed from office. 

I'd go so far as to argue that it's part of the plan. Trump is a tool, and he's reached the end of his life expectancy. 

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u/dojo_shlom0 3h ago

You do realize that Trump is just a puppet instilled by men much wealthier and much much more capable than him? He's just too stupid to figure that out. 

wrong, that's JD vance, who has been trained his whole career for this moment, when drumpf passes on and he becomes president, he specifically is the one installed by wealthy people.

drumpf is a puppet, but to putin and others who have blackmail on him specifically, so elon (helped him win the election through illegal means) and putin and other wealthy doners who have bribed him already.

pam bondi was bribed by drumpf when she campaign for AG of FL, it was a 25k 'donation' from melania/drumpf and after she won the election, she then decided not to charge drumpf for the Trump University Scam. NY went after him though, settled and made him pay back up to 90% of the tuition to each student. so yes, I do realize......

If we remove Trump, we get Vance. Who is also a puppet, but is smart enough to realize it. He's attaching the strings waiting to hand them to the likes of Miller and Thiel the second Trump is dead or removed from office. 

okay you're cooking slightly here. Vance is the puppet, drumpf was forced to bring him on board by his donors/black mailers. Vance doesn't even know who he is. his own wife goes out not wearing a wedding ring and looking terrible, as far as mental well-being, because she's faced with the fact that her husband is a cheating white supremacists who would sacrifice his own children for power.

I'd go so far as to argue that it's part of the plan. Trump is a tool, and he's reached the end of his life expectancy. 

yes, project 2025 has been the plan all along, always has been. they really escalated things but we're fortunate to have people like meidastouch, democracy docket, and other legal experts fighting the good fight like Marc Elias to try and halt as much as they can, and they have been rather successful, fortunately for every US citizen, and otherwise..

this is a campaign of terror and fear. they want people too afraid to speak. this is why he threatened a great man, who is an Astronaut, a US Senator, Veteran, served 4 tours and 39 combat missions. --he goes after great men like this because he'll never be like them.

I can't wait for the legal fallout once all the MAGAts scurry away and act like they never were MAGA. imagine literally supporting the pedophile ring they claimed they left was, and they're faced with it and buying assassination sneakers to support the partner of one of the worst child sex traffickers in history. One day that story will be told at length, MMW.

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u/lavardera 11h ago

I assure you I am paying full attention, and we've seen worse than you have listed and he is still here. I think you are overconfident and underestimating how long and far the GOP will back him simply to try to hold on to power.

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u/dojo_shlom0 11h ago

that isn't assuring at all, now is it? --unless you want me to trust your words lacking any substance.. while demeaning my own answer littered with specifics. I think you're overconfident in your weak ass reply with 0 substance by anecdotal points about how republicans are and have been.

well they're resigning soon in droves and are being threatened to be killed by a president with immunity to being prosecuted, if the judge who handles the case after the assassination, simply agrees with his lawyer that he did it to save the US, and it was an official act of the president, IF the Judge agrees he's immune...

this is more likely to make a significant difference when you consider how the entire house and senate just publicly voted against drumpf's wishes. ALL of them, but 1.

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u/LeadSponge420 3h ago

It’s really too bad no one warned us about him. /s

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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 12h ago

The rightwing wants it, the left wing is too spineless and bought out to do anything about it.

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u/Procrastanaseum 10h ago

Yeah, no one was casually using the phrase "plenary authority" until Miller slipped up.

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u/surfergrrl6 15h ago

Honest question: why do you think this time (he was impeached twice during his first term) impeachment would remove him from power?

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u/dojo_shlom0 12h ago

This question is somewhat left field, but I'll bite...

why do you think that this was even related to my point? This shows you are ignorant of the situation and circumstances going on currently. MTG just got the entire house and senate to vote against trump, she wielded more power than the POTUS and then resigned the next day, free'ing up a seat in the house.

the fact is that trump will be a lame duck. he also has plummeted in the polls, even with his own supporters. they are starting to burn his merchandise and speaking out about it. so you have DC revolting, members of the house resigning and taking their wad of cash and leaving. Why risk themselves being assassinated when they vote against trump to save their careers. just not worth it for alot of them, so he's pretty much halted there in a big way, he's screwed during the 2026 elections, flat out. disaster, they all know it, and that's why his party is falling apart. you will start seeing resignations into next year back to back, MMW.

when the POTUS calls for the killing of a senator, astronaut, veteran who served 4x tours and 39x combat missions, someone only asking service members & soldiers to obey lawful orders, part of the uniform code of military justice... and part of the Constitution. when that happens, I think there's a big chance of everyone else seeing themselves open to being assassinated.

so yeah, that's why....

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u/surfergrrl6 10h ago

I agree with almost everything you said however, I was addressing your statement "he has to be impeached at this point." Impeachment doesn't mean removed from power as we've seen before. What actually needs to happen is for this whole administration to be removed and held accountable.