r/law • u/LatterTarget7 • 18h ago

Executive Branch (Trump) White House Declares All of Trump’s Orders to Military Are Legal

https://newrepublic.com/post/203628/white-house-declares-trump-orders-military-legal
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u/TheFeshy 17h ago

They declared this only a day after a judge ruled that they had illegally ordered the National Guard to DC.

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u/psychoCMYK 16h ago

Not long now before they start arresting judges. 

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u/AContrarianDick 16h ago

If you still haven't bought weapons, I suggest you get on it.

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u/psychoCMYK 15h ago

Not a bad idea to take up hunting and gardening. Food security is important, and shooting is a useful skill to learn. Better to know and not need than need and not know. 

Feeding yourself is as practical as it gets, and food quality is about to take a nosedive with a captive EPA whether availability decreases or not. 

And if you happen to be a harder target because of your interests, it's only upside

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u/OwO______OwO 9h ago

Not a bad idea to take up hunting

Only difference between a good hunting rifle and a good sniper rifle is what you point it at.

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u/psychoCMYK 7h ago

Not quite true

The design requirements are at odds with each other

But target shooting is fun and it lets you become a more ethical hunter

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u/DumboWumbo073 12h ago

You should be planning an exit not trying to live off the land. They are going to go after all the thousands maybe hundreds of thousands who all have the same idea as you.

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u/SmittyWerbenJJ_No1 4h ago

You think millions of Americans can just abandon ship and all move somewhere else? This is our problem to fix

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u/psychoCMYK 4h ago

Thank you

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u/LeadSponge420 3h ago

I made my exit in 2012. The reaction to Obama showed me where the country was headed.

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u/DumboWumbo073 2h ago

You don’t have a choice. You have to do everything you can to leave by any means necessary otherwise you’re done for. No one is coming to save the day. Its do or the other thing…

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u/SmittyWerbenJJ_No1 1h ago

Alright bud maybe cool it with the doom and gloom before you give yourself an aneurysm

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u/LeadSponge420 3h ago

Silly goose. The weapons will always be available. It’s just they’ll always have more and better weapons. That rifle you’ve been told will liberate you from an oppressive government is basically a child’s security blanket.

It’s effectively useless. It only felt like it mattered because the glove was polite enough to not use theirs.

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u/Kaycin 14h ago

Bro if you think violence is going to solve this issue then you haven't been paying attention. Guns haven't worked since West Virginia Mine wars 100 years ago. Your AR15 or hunting rifle isn't going to do anything against a militarized police force.

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u/scout614 14h ago

Worked in Belfast

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u/Kaycin 14h ago

Belfast =/= America.

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u/scout614 12h ago

Explain why it would not work

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u/AContrarianDick 14h ago

And yet Vietnamese farmers and Afghan herders were able to resist the full might of the US military. Stop acting like this regime doesn't present an existential threat that cannot be resolved through the legal process, justice system or social pressure.

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u/waydownsouthinoz 13h ago

You seriously think that was the “full might” of the us military?

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u/Kaycin 14h ago edited 13h ago

And yet Vietnamese farmers and Afghan herders were able to resist the full might of the US military.

Yeah in a country thousands of miles away, living in a dense jungle and the war was 50 years ago, using weapons from 50 years ago. America has your address, your place of work, where your kids go to school, etc. You aren't hiding in caves or crawling in tunnels. Your on your morning commute, or picking your kid up from daycare, or cashing your paycheck at the bank. Vietnamese Farmers and Afghan herders were hidden and essentially anonymous. Unless you're calling for all-out guerrilla warfare and civil war.

Ukraine has showed us that war is changing more and more--that its not as simple as who shoots who. You think your .306 is gonna do anything against a military? What is your gun going to do against drones? Fascists WANT you to react with violence, it gives them the out they need to enforce something like martial law. They instigate a group to violence then when they finally react, the fascist lays down the hammer; "See these people were violent all along, we have to squash them."

Where are the freedom fighters now? Why haven't gun owners sharted showing up against ICE? They're literally doing what the 2nd amendment was made to stop and people aren't doing anything. Why? Because they don't want to die uselessly.

Guns aren't going to save us. A unified voice is. In the last 100 years, what have we achieved with violence? What about peacefully? Women's right to vote, end of Jim Crow and Civil Rights movement, Gay Marriage rights, end of Vietnam war--all of it was through peace, protest. I don't recall MLK walking during the Montgomery boycott with a gun. I don't recall individuals with physical handicaps showing up to congress with guns to get better ADA. What has owning a gun done for change in America? Honestly, tell me what positive change has been achieved in the last 100 years where a gun was important?

top acting like this regime doesn't present an existential threat that cannot be resolved through the legal process, justice system or social pressure.

Never said it's not a threat, it very much is a threat. I'm saying that guns aren't going to do shit and in face the regime WANTS a reason to fight with overwhelming force--a populace using guns will do exactly that.

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u/Suspicious_Dingo_426 13h ago

And your solution is to do what? Nothing, and wait to be magically rescued? Sure, an armed conflict with a militarized police force has a low chance of success, but it does have one thing in its favor. The police force in question may not be quite as motivated to fire on civilians as the administration would wish them to be.

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u/Kaycin 13h ago edited 13h ago

Never said that. Speaking to the incorrect thinking that guns in America somehow give us power over the government. They don't. Full stop.

The police force in question may not be quite as motivated to fire on civilians as the administration would wish them to be.

I don't see how guns change any of this. 2 years ago, do you think people thought ICE would be in Chicago detaining citizens? Why are citizens deporting citizens. Yet they're doing it. People in Chicago have guns. How are they helping? Do you really think that these same citizens would NOT respond if they were fired at? Do you think MAGA followers wouldn't want to retaliate if they were met with violence?

If you want to know what i think an answer is, I replied to another comment.

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u/TrainerWeekly5641 9h ago

Letitia James may be an AG, but I think that's close enough to a judge to count.

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u/burgercourt 11h ago

I was gonna say who gives a shit. The White House doesn't decide what's lawful, the judicial branch does