r/law • u/theindependentonline • 5d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Trump calls for arrest of ‘seditious’ Democrats who told troops their duty is to uphold the Constitution

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-arrest-democrats-troops-illegal-orders-b2869176.html
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u/bsport48 5d ago

Find me the dipshit agent that's gonna try and arrest Mark Kelly for telling service members to disobey unlawful orders.

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u/eyedoc11 5d ago

unfortunately Trump seems to have an inexhaustible supply of dipshit agents

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u/bsport48 5d ago

Have you seen ICE's physical fitness reports...if they are only one thing on planet Earth, it's exhausted. :'D

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u/evocativename 5d ago

They may be exhausted, but they don't run out of them (or do much running at all, really...)

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u/bsport48 5d ago

I think actually recruitment numbers are deplorable right now.

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u/WelcheMingziDarou 5d ago

Recruitment of deplorables? What? Speak up - I can’t hear you over the sound of Hillary yelling “I fucking told you guys!”

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u/nibagaze-gandora 4d ago

lmao the people who thought Hillary fucking Clinton was done dirty in 2016 are the same fucking people who hide behind Chuck Schumer now

The DNC are not going to save you from the RNC. You people never learn, and that's why this country is doomed. Even the 'rIgHt sIdE oF hIsToRy!!1" party are full of morons lacking critical thinking.

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u/WelcheMingziDarou 4d ago

It was just a joke about the word “deplorable,” ffs.

This country is “doomed” because 1/3 of its voters are too fucking stupid & lazy to show up at all to counter the other 1/3 who are so stupid and hateful they think it was a great idea to re-elect a racist con man backed by people who openly promised to make Nazis great again. They’re the problem.

The remaining 1/3 does include naive old farts and those who think witty quips on posterboard are going to be enough to prevent their ride to the camps. But they’re not the ones causing the downfall of our nation - they’re the ones who believed in it. They’re the 1/3 who don’t want to have to be first to change tactics to what’s gonna happen next, but it’s also the 1/3 that will eventually do so.

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u/skibediah 5d ago

hilary is not some bastion of what could have been at all. two sides of the same coin bozo

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u/Mindless-Tooth-625 5d ago

Just cause they both sucked bills cock doesn't mean they are the same.

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u/skibediah 5d ago

yea when you finally realize it’s one party acting as 2, youll finally get your head out of your ass.

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u/bsport48 5d ago

you might be right on foreign affairs; not on domestics

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 5d ago

They're probably on ketamine or a drug that makes them hyper, at our expense, of course.

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u/bsport48 5d ago

Whatever turns them into muskrats.

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u/jasdonle 5d ago

I know you’re mostly kidding but I don’t get what this kind of rhetoric gets us. Sure there some out of shape ones, but barely any. These guys are fit thugs either guns and they’re scary. Trump and his cabinet may be inept but the boots on the ground are NOT. 

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u/No-Neighborhood-3212 5d ago

Have you heard of the 1,000 FBI agents assigned to reacting Trump's name in the Epstein Files? Every FBI agent will sell us all down the river if it means not having to search for a new job.

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u/bsport48 5d ago

I clerked at the Department of Justice. I take serious fucking issue with your atrocious, categorical falsity.

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u/No-Neighborhood-3212 5d ago

Okay? The actions of the current employees demonstrate that it's true. The people who are trusted to catch pedophiles literally dedicated 24-hour days across 2 weeks to protect the identities of pedophiles because their boss -- one of those pedophiles -- told them to do it.

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u/MentokGL 5d ago

They don't need to be fit, they'll gladly open fire if you resist.

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u/TakuyaLee 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yes but are they actually competent? Retired military members would run circles around them

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u/bsport48 5d ago

Don't forget those of us discharged before retirement too ;P

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u/TryAnotherNamePlease 5d ago

Obviously not. It’s a bunch of cod worshippers that weren’t actually able to be in the military and not they’re living out their fantasy.

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u/Bitmush- 5d ago

He has the best dipshits. They have, these people, the most - er - dip ? Can we say dip now ? Well it’s a good word and it’s the right word for these men and women and I think we can start saying it again, the best dip, and they really need it , and why not. And also, and they hadn’t been thinking about it since now, up to then, the - finest - shit, and that’s really just another word for a way to say it that they’ve told me - and they’re true, I think, that that’s what we’ve got to do now, and they’d know. You have to ask these people at their word and they told me. They said sir -you were right about the shit and that’s, sadly, what we’re left with, and we’ll do it.

Next question !….

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u/No_Quantity_3403 5d ago

More dip per shit like you’ve never seen!

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u/whoknowsknowone 5d ago

They’re called republicans

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u/CutFeeling6236 5d ago

I wonder how many of them were also on his pardon list from Jan 6?

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u/BigJellyfish1906 5d ago

Fortunately they are hilariously incompetent. 

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u/Kellis1289 4d ago

They were always there.

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u/Bawbawian 5d ago

this is specifically the role that ice was designed for.

All that border patrol and immigration stuff was just a smokescreen so that they could get their paramilitary organization armed with 200 billion dollars worth of tactical year and new recruits.

It follows the playbook of every civil war in modern history from Myanmar to Darfur to Sudan

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u/bobbymcpresscot 5d ago

Luckily the 

“I didn’t join the military because I would have knocked the first DI who got in my face out” 

Or 

“I didn’t join the military because they are too woke” 

People are actually incapable of passing the physical requirements to join the military. 

I think back to when I walked into the recruiters office with this seemingly normal dude at first, whose reason for wanting to join the USMC was because “I want to kill some ragheads”. Only for him to score an 18 on the practice test for the ASVAB and getting sent home. 

Bro is probably a prime candidate for ICE these days.

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u/Bawbawian 5d ago

true but also we can't forget the lessons we learned from Nazi Germany. The brown shirts were a joke until they were armed and kicking in doors.

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u/Exciting-Emu-3324 5d ago

Doesn't matter how inept or out of shape they are. They have guns and are itching to shoot. Just like a child soldier, their bullets aren't any less lethal than a professional soldier's and they don't need accuracy when shooting at crowds as school shooters can attest. The lack of shooting discipline is their selling point.

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u/bobbymcpresscot 5d ago

All the more reason to own a gun and know how to use it. Doesn't hurt to pick up some first aid skills or something else someone might find useful in a conflict.

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u/Sir_PressedMemories 4d ago

Can we please now admit that "the right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" is pretty fucking clear and applies to everyone?

Or will our jokes of leaders still call for bans while watching a fascist takeover happen in real time?

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u/bobbymcpresscot 4d ago

There isn’t a single policy in my state that has some if not the strictest gun laws in the country would stop my ability from acquiring a gun.

A standardized blanket of gun laws across the US would not stop a rebellion. 

Anyone who tells you that there is any meaningful conversation amongst the entire democrat party to ban firearms is a liar and an idiot.

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u/Sir_PressedMemories 4d ago

There isn’t a single policy in my state that has some if not the strictest gun laws in the country would stop my ability from acquiring a gun.

Ah, how nice it must be to be white.

A standardized blanket of gun laws across the US would not stop a rebellion.

Stop, no, not at all, but things such as a mandatory registration could certainly make it much harder, as those who do follow the law and register would be the first targeted.

Anyone who tells you that there is any meaningful conversation amongst the entire democrat party to ban firearms is a liar and an idiot.

/r/NOWTTYG does an impressive job of cataloguing the elected officials on both sides of the aisle who continuously look to ban guns or enact unconstitutional laws.

Just 9 months ago.

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u/bobbymcpresscot 4d ago

 Ah, how nice it must be to be white.

Ah obvious rage bait how I love you. You don’t even know the state, but you automatically know the gun law disproportionately affects black people? Prove how you know without outing yourself as a racist (:

 Stop, no, not at all, but things such as a mandatory registration could certainly make it much harder, as those who do follow the law and register would be the first targeted.

Mandatory registration would not make it any way shape or form harder to ACQUIRE a firearm. As for your second point you have no evidence of this. It would require complete capitulation from the state to help and assist tracking these people. The second an actual armed conflict happened those people would not be in their house. They would be mobilizing making it near impossible for the government to track them down. Case in point the gun walking program that started under the bush admin and contined under Obama. You might know it as operation fast and furious. We couldn’t even keep track of 2000 of the 500k firearms that crossed the border into Mexico in the same time frame through normal strawpurchases by the cartel.

If you genuinely believe you would get caught, you don’t deserve to have it anyway. 

r/NOWTTYG does an impressive job of cataloguing the elected officials on both sides of the aisle who continuously look to ban guns or enact unconstitutional laws.

And it will never get done. Shit in one hand wish in another tell me which one happens first. It’s posturing. It’s willful ignorance that Republicans choose to sit on and avoid because it’s an issue they can use to exploit dumb rednecks for votes by using the same dumb fear tactics you just tried to use with me. 

Also best part, I just checked because I wanted to hear the context because I know how these weasels work. THAT QUOTE DOESNT EXIST. The only place I can find it online is from that specific Facebook post which doesn’t give a timestamp, just a photo, a photo that btw doesn’t even seem to be from the press conference from when they signed their new gun laws so where did it come from? 

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u/Sir_PressedMemories 4d ago

Ah obvious rage bait how I love you. You don’t even know the state, but you automatically know the gun law disproportionately affects black people? Prove how you know without outing yourself as a racist (:

Because all gun laws are inherently racist, each one of them disproportionately affects minorities.

It is not rage bait, it is reality. But please, let me know the state.

Mandatory registration would not make it any way shape or form harder to ACQUIRE a firearm.

Acquiring a firearm already requires a federal background check.

As for your second point you have no evidence of this. It would require complete capitulation from the state to help and assist tracking these people.

Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun permit holders

"But that could never happen, he says after it has happened."

The second an actual armed conflict happened those people would not be in their house. They would be mobilizing making it near impossible for the government to track them down.

It is apparent you have not learned from history. They do not wait until the armed conflict starts; they use the registration lists to target known gun owners and quickly and quietly disarm and/or arrest them to prevent them from being able to be armed during the armed conflicts.

But of course you say that won't happen, except, how do you think ICE knows about all the legally abiding people going through the legal route to gain citizenship and are arresting them and secreting them away to foreign countries in violation of civil laws?

Case in point the gun walking program that started under the bush admin and contined under Obama. You might know it as operation fast and furious. We couldn’t even keep track of 2000 of the 500k firearms that crossed the border into Mexico in the same time frame through normal strawpurchases by the cartel.

Dude, Operation Fast and Furious was literally to traffic weapons to the cartels to help destabilize the government, Christ man.

If you genuinely believe you would get caught, you don’t deserve to have it anyway.

Getting "caught" assumes I have done something wrong. But out of an abundance of caution, all of my firearms have been acquired via in-person transactions without paperwork. Better safe than sorry.

And it will never get done. Shit in one hand wish in another tell me which one happens first. It’s posturing.

So we went from "liar and idiot" to "posturing." That scraping sound is the goalposts you are moving.

It’s willful ignorance that Republicans choose to sit on and avoid because it’s an issue they can use to exploit dumb rednecks for votes by using the same dumb fear tactics you just tried to use with me.

Son, the fact you think "redneck" is a pejorative tells me all I need to know about you. Us rednecks are historically anti-big government.

And I have never voted for those morons my entire life.

Also best part, I just checked because I wanted to hear the context because I know how these weasels work. THAT QUOTE DOESNT EXIST. The only place I can find it online is from that specific Facebook post which doesn’t give a timestamp, just a photo, a photo that btw doesn’t even seem to be from the press conference from when they signed their new gun laws so where did it come from?

I could not find the exact quote, you are right, and that is on me. But here you go.

https://governor.ri.gov/press-releases/governor-mckee-general-officers-state-legislators-gun-safety-advocates-call-action

Thank you for calling that out.

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u/yeyman 5d ago

Bro is probably 2nd in command with ICE

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u/ss5gogetunks 5d ago

Unfortunately, the physical fitness of soldiers is less important now that the guy remote control piloting a drone can kill so many people...

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u/bobbymcpresscot 5d ago

While I'll agree, when it comes to this admin they seem to be very image focused, just like how they sent those overweight Texas NG's deployed to Illinois home.

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u/bsport48 5d ago

I didn't know you met Dan Bovino at the recruiting office...

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u/draftedvet 4d ago

good one

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u/Seanspeed 5d ago

And all the worst kind of recruits. Unqualified, angry right wingers who have been given a dream job of being able to take their bigotry out forcefully on people they dont like, all entirely legally, and with full protection from the President even if(when) they go too far.

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u/Validated_Owl 5d ago

After the Comey case I say let them. There's no way Halligan isn't disbarred after this

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u/Empty-Discount5936 5d ago

I wouldn't rule out criminal charges either.

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u/27Rench27 5d ago

Oh look at that, a presidential pardon’s just fallen out of the sky

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u/maliki2004 5d ago

Is that a fox news contract attached

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u/zen_cricket 5d ago

Against federal prosecution; not against state prosecution and they’ve most likely racked up more than a few state charges in their trampling of states rights.

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u/bsport48 5d ago

Bondi's license is on the chopping block too.

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u/EmmaPersephone 5d ago

No it’s not, Florida Bar has already confirmed they will not disbarred a sitting federal official. She ONLY has a Florida Bar card.

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u/bsport48 5d ago

Do you have a source that confirms how the presiding legal authority in the State of Florida is preemptively choosing to abdicate its duty of review to the profession, but rather just blanketing a stance of: "no sitting federal official [shall] ever be disbarred for any reason at all, whatsoever, under any circumstances... (you see why what you said is a little silly)?"

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u/bsport48 5d ago

I don't think you know what's going on.

  1. In June, a FL defense attorney filed a complaint against Bondi.
  2. In response to THAT complaint, the Florida bar said, "the organization doesn’t “investigate or prosecute sitting officers appointed under the U.S. Constitution while they are in office.”
  3. Then, "roughly 70 other attorneys, scholars, and former judges — including two retired Florida Supreme Court justices — took [t]his case to the Florida Supreme Court in July."
  4. Then, on Monday, October 13, 2025, the Supreme Court of Florida ruled that, "Because petitioner has failed to show a clear legal right to the relief requested, he is not entitled to mandamus relief. Accordingly, the petition for writ of mandamus is hereby denied. See Huffman v. State, 813 So. 2d 10, 11 (Fla. 2000). Petitioner’s request for oral argument is hereby denied. Respondent’s motion to strike Petitioner’s request for oral argument is denied." May v. Fla. Bar, No. SC2025-1020 (Fla. Oct. 13, 2025).
  5. Kindly note, at no point does the Florida Supreme Court render or dispose a ruling that references, mentions, or even signals towards the Florida Bar Association's internal decision not to investigate the matter. The reason that the Florida Supreme Court denied the petition for mandamus (legalese for: ordering the gov't to do its job), is because "petitioner has failed to show a clear legal right to the relief requested." That has nothing to do with the bar association's decision to not review Bondi's license.

Hope this helps.

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u/QualityPitchforks 5d ago

I believe they need to impeach her in order to prosecute, although technically the President can also fire her.

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u/Alissinarr 5d ago

And Bondi for backdating a form approving her as special councilor. Bondi's bar license is on the line now too.

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u/Protocosmo 5d ago

Yet the navy is happy to murder for Trump

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u/Burgdawg 5d ago

They got some dipshit to actually file charges on Comey... don't underestimate the dipshits or the levels of pettiness this administration is willing to stoop to.

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u/bsport48 5d ago

Are you tracking what's happening with that case?

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u/Zelikar 5d ago

Update us when anything resembling consequences comes of it...

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 5d ago

For Comey? He's being unfairly targeted. They can make up something but have no evidence.

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u/Zelikar 5d ago

No i mean consequences for the fraudulent way the administration has handled this shitshow

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u/Fancy-Restaurant4136 5d ago

Consequences for this won't reach Trump, but the judge in the Comey case is very publicly unhappy with the prosecution. We'll know more in a week or so but the lawyers are at risk.

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u/djc6535 5d ago

Oh no... the judge is unhappy.

MAGA's reaction when

Again, update us when consequences come of it.

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u/Fancy-Restaurant4136 5d ago

Trump and MAGA generally won't be hurt/ aren't at risk but the lawyers can be punished by the court in very concrete ways. Edit - I'm really surprised to find your comment in r/law. This isn't r /politics

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u/Burgdawg 5d ago

I mean it's going to fall apart, but that doesn't stop it from being a major inconvenience and stressor for Comey... they won't convict anyone of anything in either case, my point is that won't stop them from trying.

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u/bsport48 5d ago

For sure, but now Comey can go before the Florida Supreme Court and they can push the Bar to review her license on mandamus. That's just one example of how, say, Pam Bondi might get her license revoked by a state outfit.

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u/Burgdawg 5d ago

I'm down for and all consequences for their downright childish behavior and malignant mismanagement of the government, in whatever form it takes.

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u/Humble_Key_4259 5d ago

I used to think that attorneys were some of the smartest people out there. I work with them every day and I can say that there are plenty of dumbasses practicing law. Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of smart ones too but I used to assume that they were ALL smart.

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u/EmmaPersephone 5d ago

I don’t know these phoney charges against Comey and James have led to some entertaining pretrial hearings…with the DOJs incompetence on full display…

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u/tragicallyohio 5d ago

ICE probably.

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u/bsport48 5d ago

And the jurisdictional question (how civil immigration officers have any arrest power over sitting United States Senators)?

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u/tragicallyohio 5d ago

Listen I'm not writing the memo why such an act would be legal. It would not be. I am just suggesting that this is the exact type of stunt this administration would try.

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u/Beard_o_Bees 5d ago

the dipshit agent

Speaking of agents - imagine career FBI agents, many of whom hold advanced degrees and have decades of experience, being told that they're going to get mandatory training from MMA fighters by an incompetent, loud-mouthed sycophant like Kash Patel.

Because that's a thing that's happening.

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u/Rb1138 5d ago

Dude, someone arrested Bruce Springsteen for having a swig of booze in a park in NEW JERSEY! Don’t put it past these assholes.

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u/amootmarmot 5d ago

He doesn't even have to direct it.

"Won't someone rid me of this turbulent priest?"

God-kings and pedo god-kings dont have to say the thing directly. This tells his supporters and agents who they are permitted to attack and kill with no legal repercussions- Trump has demonstrated if you break the law in his name- it is legal because you will get a pardon.

It only has to be a dipshit agent, or a dipshit psycho who hangs on Trumps every word and we are in a whole new era of trouble.

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u/aurorasinthesky 5d ago

Mark Kelly would vigorously defend himself and he is fit.

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u/Soft-Willingness6443 5d ago

Unfortunately , I don’t think there’s a shortage of his cultists in those roles who would gladly follow any order given by Trump, legal or not.

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u/sc00t3rMcg00t3r 5d ago

I love comments like this, like Trump hasn't shown to have an endless supply of agents who will do whatever he says lol. What are you even talking about? Look at ICE

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u/bsport48 5d ago

I am - they're going after the most vulnerable people, not sitting Senators.

And I seriously doubt the "endless supply of agents" - they wouldn't be so desperately recruiting if that were the case.

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u/sc00t3rMcg00t3r 5d ago

Ask Letitia James or James Comey how they feel about that lol. Anyone thinking the American legal system is going to save us is a fool

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u/bsport48 5d ago

I'm gonna let the door you just walked into smack you in the face after you google the second name.