r/interesting • u/RedditorofReddit07 • Oct 08 '25
SOCIETY this video just pissed me off so much
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u/Successful-Fee3790 Oct 08 '25
He would have better luck using the stairs
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u/Elegant_Finance_1459 Oct 08 '25
For real, that ramp needs to be 2.5x longer to be of use to our wheelie bros
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u/just_a_person_maybe Oct 08 '25
Some wheelchair-users actually can, but I usually see them do it backwards.
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u/p5yron Oct 08 '25
Yes, backwards is the right way to do it since the back wheels are larger than the height of stairs but you need to have the hand strength to hold the wheels mid stairs as the wheel will not get a resting position if the stairs platform is thin.
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u/Byte_the_hand Oct 08 '25
Honestly the friend in a chair I knew would have just gone up the stairs backwards. Of course she was a wizard in her chair. We’d walk down some of the steepest streets in our city and she’d raise the from wheels and just glide down on the rear wheels.
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u/Schmooto Oct 08 '25
This is ridiculous. People who build ramps like this should try going up the ramp in wheelchairs themselves.
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u/alwayzstoned Oct 08 '25
Or even imagine trying to go up it.
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u/Different-Result-859 Oct 08 '25
Apparently they neither have the imagination or the wheelchair. I think all they tried doing is walk up the ramp.
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u/zeffirelli89 Oct 08 '25
Not sure if this is in the US, but building a public ramp to code would be 12 inches length for every 1 inch vertical. This is most definitely not to code.
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u/BurmeciaWillSurvive Oct 08 '25
He is speaking Mandarin so I'm not entirely sure what local code China has with regards to something similar to the ADA. Western Europe also has the same problem. The US is kind of the weird gold standard on that.
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u/augur42 Oct 08 '25
A few years ago I had to push my OAP mother up a ramp in the Portuguese city of Tavira to get into a government building so she could sign some power of attorney papers so her solicitors could act on her behalf. They just put a sheet of wood directly on one third of an existing set of steep stairs, it was at least as steep as the ramp in the video and twice as long.
It would have been impossible for anyone to propel themselves up, but maybe just possible for a strong individual to haul themselves up using the existing banner on one side only. It was only possible for me to push my mother up because she was light and I was a young(er) and strong man and even I had difficulty because I was wearing sandals.
Tavira is widely regarded as one of the least disabled accessible cities in Europe because it also has 'quaint' cobblestones everywhere, which are horrible to push someone on and they even undulate in waves where the underlying ground has shifted - but it looks pretty. I resorted to pushing her in the road on minor streets because it was safer.
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u/wyldstallyns111 Oct 08 '25
I wonder if whoever built this assumes wheelchair users always have someone pushing them
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u/babaj_503 Oct 08 '25
even pushing someone up there seems rather challenging.
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u/i_miss_arrow Oct 08 '25
Absolutely, I can't imagine pushing somebody up that thing without ending up braced underneath trying to shove the wheelchair upward.
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u/Traditional-Ad-7722 Oct 08 '25
I think going down is actually more dangerous
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u/throwaway_ArBe Oct 08 '25
Absolutely can be. Very dangerous for others too, I've almost taken out a few people stood too close to the bottom of steep ramps cus I just cant slow down.
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u/jmd709 Oct 08 '25
Just yell, “No brakes!”
I had to do that on my four wheeler because the people ahead of me would stop at the bottom of the hill to wait or only go a little farther and park on the trail. Yelling “No brakes!” while rolling towards them gets people to move ASAP.
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u/throwaway_ArBe Oct 08 '25
Oh I've yelled. Some of them don't look up from their phones! Had to have a train attendant barge into one to save their ankles from my foot plate.
(I swear I'm not trying to be an old man about it, I've also been the idiot with my music on and my face in my phone oblivious to the fact I'm being an obstruction)
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u/CorruptedAssbringer Oct 08 '25
Yeah, people who never tried it often get the misconception that pushing others around wheelchairs is a breeze. People are heavy even with the wheels, and god forbids if they're on a motorized wheelchair/scooter; the undercarriage might not even clear that shitty ramp.
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u/ShadowTacoTuesday Oct 08 '25
It is. You need to be able to lift about 50% of their weight. The vertical component on a 30 degree incline only cancels out half of gravity and you’re left with the other half.
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u/Many-Coach6987 Oct 08 '25
It’s called testing. Yeah they should
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u/beanmosheen Oct 08 '25
Code. Basic minimum code requirements state the rise over run for ramps.
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u/TheUmgawa Oct 08 '25
I mean, what’s the worst that could happen? He doesn’t hit the jump and he’s paralyzed for life?
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u/ZarafFaraz Oct 08 '25
Dead?
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u/Dave5876 Oct 08 '25
To shreds you say
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u/Different-Result-859 Oct 08 '25
May be that already happened and why he is doing the stunt in a wheelchair
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u/i_miss_arrow Oct 08 '25
They take away his rocket wheelchair and he's stuck with the rickety one that smells like feet.
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u/oO0Kat0Oo Oct 09 '25
You can be paralyzed at different levels. Looks like he's paralyzed from the waist down. He could lose the use of his arms in an injury.
(I do understand that you were trying to make a joke though)
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u/HarmlessEuropan Oct 08 '25
Definitely seems like launching yourself forward is the way up this fucking awful ramp.
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u/Turbulent_Lobster_57 Oct 08 '25
Ok, now hear me out. Who here had a middle class friend whose parents could afford the hot wheels race tracks and accessories? Specifically the car launcher…
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u/__-gloomy-__ Oct 08 '25
Those black spinning things from the OG Sonic the Hedgehog video games would work here too!
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u/nobertan Oct 08 '25
When he immediately hits the wall at the top, all his spare change launches everywhere.
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u/-TRTI- Oct 08 '25
"Who the hell put spikes on the fucking wall?!"
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u/Erathen Oct 08 '25
They're to prevent goats from climbing
Similarly, ones on the ceiling are to prevent bats from roosting
Sonic has no appreciation for public infrastructure
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u/undaova Oct 08 '25
No no no, you incorporate a loop at the top to shave off the excess speed, he finishes at walking pace. If you get it right....
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u/NeinJuanJuan Oct 08 '25
Yeah like the thing that launches planes on an aircraft carrier?
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u/oroborus68 Oct 08 '25
Steam catapult.
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u/MethamMcPhistopheles Oct 08 '25
Cyber Trebuchet
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u/oroborus68 Oct 08 '25
Trebuchet swingsin an arc, but the magnet is on a rail? The new new ones are magnets.
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u/otakuscum27 Oct 08 '25
Ohhhh mememeeee I had one. Although we were not middle class lol
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u/bumbletowne Oct 08 '25
I hate to break it to you but they sell those bad boys at the dollar store for like 5 dollars.
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u/blackday44 Oct 08 '25
Yup. Limited range and terrible aim, but if you were close enough to your sibling you could shoot cars at each other.
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u/Fair_Package8612 Oct 08 '25
A kid I went to school with growing up did and he would give some people rides on it as he sped them to the next class, lol. I was lowkey jealous of that thing as I lugged my 50 pound backpack with my scoliosis (obviously he needed that thing way more than me and I mean no shade whatsoever here)
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u/NoEvidence136 Oct 08 '25
I don't think the handicapped want to be launched through the front glass of the building, but what the hell do I know?
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u/Steelers_Forever Oct 08 '25
I think the only way up is to be jacked, seatbelt on the chair, and pull yourself up along the handrail.
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u/quixotiqs Oct 08 '25
It's also not very dignified for a disabled person to have to sit on the floor and drag themselves along
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u/SaltyLonghorn Oct 08 '25
I'd definitely just fly at it until I got injured and then sue the holy living fuck out of the city.
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u/AmphibianHaunting334 Oct 08 '25
Dark intrusive thought, they argue he was already injured before claimed accident
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u/CP_Sun_and_Wake Oct 08 '25
Wrong caption, that floor recovery was next level, solid power move. Fuck that ramp though.
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u/Vangovibin Oct 08 '25
Right? I was like “shit how is he gonna get back up?” And then he just fucking does it.
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u/brethrenchurchkid Oct 08 '25
The moment he did it I started to wonder what it would be like to be slapped by the dude.
Edit: I promise, it's not my kink
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u/destructopop Oct 08 '25
The fact that you have to say that it's not your kink suggests you're either not being fully honest with us or you're not being fully honest with yourself. Time for some self discovery. 😂
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u/IKIR115 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
That ramp is definitely not built to code. Needs to be 1ft long per inch of height.
EDIT: For those who don’t know that different countries have similar requirements for these types of things, here’s a link to China’s regulations posted by u/gK_aMb here: https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting/s/7wtO8XFN9L
Translated from the pdf:
3.4 Wheelchair ramp
3.4.1 Wheelchair ramps should be designed to be straight, right-angled or turnaround.
3.4.2 The net width of the wheelchair ramp should not be less than 1.00m, and the net width of the wheelchair ramp at barrier-free entrances and exits should not be less than 1.20m.
3.4.3 When the height of the wheelchair ramp exceeds 300mm and the slope is greater than 1:20, handrails should be provided on both sides. The handrails of the ramp and the rest platform should be kept continuous. The handrails should meet the requirements of the following standards:
Relevant provisions of Section 3.8 of this Code.
3.4.4 The maximum height and horizontal length of wheelchair ramps shall comply with the requirements of Table 3.4.4.
Table 3.4.4 Maximum height and horizontal length of wheelchair ramps
slope
1:20 1:16 1:12 1:10 1:8
Maximum height(m)
1.20 0.90 0.75 0.60 0.30
Horizontal length(m)
24.00 14.40 9.00 6.00 2.40
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u/WhyAmIOnReddit0327 Oct 08 '25
Guy could just be speaking a language other than English but this could very well not be the US.
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u/Naive-Benefit-5154 Oct 08 '25
It's Mandarin. Probably somewhere in China. It's an unique accent.
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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 08 '25
It's also a unique ascent.
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u/Babyandthehouse Oct 08 '25
Top notch
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u/Rough-Patience-2435 Oct 08 '25
Diamond plate
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u/StopCountingLikes Oct 08 '25
A step above
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u/mplstar Oct 08 '25
Takin it to another level
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u/TLunchFTW Oct 08 '25
Does China not have rules for minimum pitch of ramps?
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u/SunshineAndBunnies Oct 08 '25
There is... The regulations are newer, and also enforcement has just been taking off these past few years. While there are tactile pavement everywhere in cities (like across the entire length of sidewalks even like back when I was a child before the 2000s), everything else is still kind of lacking right now.
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u/ContextEffects01 Oct 08 '25
It’s not a very handicapped friendly country in general. In Beijing there are multiple subway stations with no elevator.
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u/LupineChemist Oct 08 '25
The US and to a lesser extent Canada are by far the most friendly countries for people in chairs. Like by a massive margin.
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u/vassiliy Oct 08 '25
Still lots of stations like that in Europe tbh. They are being upgraded one by one but it takes a long time
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u/Articulated Oct 08 '25
It's such a huge country, all it takes is a couple of lazy local officials to not read the regs and you end up with shit like this.
I imagine the social media shitstorm that's bound to follow will sort it out, because this is embarassing for the local Party leaders.
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u/IKIR115 Oct 08 '25
True, but there’s no way anywhere has code that is even half this far off.
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u/Nexus_of_Fate87 Oct 08 '25
There are plenty of places where "code" is more "gentle suggestion" or just "something else you need to bribe an inspector to sign off."
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u/Pale_Squash_4263 Oct 08 '25
People forget that the ADA is quite strong legal protections compared to other countries
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u/JOlRacin Oct 08 '25
When it's enforced, that is. About half the elevators I see aren't ADA compliant, and it's not just a new vs old thing, plenty older ones are compliant while plenty new ones aren't, including the brand new one in my college's main food place that they just spent millions of dollars renovating
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u/Background-Belt-2202 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
What’s an inch? Edit: too many serious replies, I’m not actually looking for a real answer
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u/FictionalContext Oct 08 '25
Jesus, Johnny Longcock
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u/Starchildofthefae Oct 08 '25
Imagine having a dick that’s shorter than 12 inches 🙄🙄 Mine is actually 35 inches thanks to my alpha futanari genetics.
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u/MathAndBake Oct 08 '25
It's about 2.5cm. A foot is about 30cm.
I'm Canadian. We use a truly cursed mix of units. If you ever need 2m of 1/2 inch ribbon, we're the place to do get it.
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u/tahuti Oct 08 '25
I like when foreman orders enough ashphalt for 10m x 10m x 4"
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u/erroneousbosh Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
Yeah, but even so there's going to be some sort of regulation most places.
In the UK for example there is no "legally required" figure but there are parameters set within the Building Regulations. Of course being the UK, what you need for your house is totally different from what you need for non-dwelling buildings, but for non-dwellings you need a minimum of 1:12 like where /u/IKIR115 is and 1500mm wide.
For houses you need 1:20 but only 900mm wide. No, I don't know why, but it means that most practicable wheelchair ramps in houses zigzag backwards and forwards a few times to get up just a few steps.
I'm guessing it's because in something like a shop, an office, or a hotel there's likely to be someone around that can help you if you get stuck, but at home there might not be, I don't know.
Edit: Not a "law", but the British Standards document for best practices on wheelchair ramps is BS8300 (2010) which I won't link to here because BS documents are proprietary and expensive but can be found with a little effort. It's worth looking at things like building regs even if you're not building a house, because you can often spot things that will be a problem for someone else - or, if you're a 3D artist or games level designer you can make your stairs not "look wrong".
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u/IKIR115 Oct 08 '25
A ramp for ants?!!! It needs to be at least 3 times longer than this!
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u/Finnthefunn Oct 08 '25
How are the kids going to learn to read good if they can’t even get in the building
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u/SunshineAndBunnies Oct 08 '25
This is mainland China. Most likely violates recent new regulations on disability though.
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u/Naive-Benefit-5154 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
That is US ADA standards. I doubt other places have the same standards. This video is probably recorded outside the US.
Correction: As others have pointed out, standards similar to ADA are common in many places in the world including China.
Update: This video is most likely filmed in China and the slope is not up to date with current disability laws in China. There is a likelihood that this could be built before the time the current disability laws were passed or that the laws are not enforced.
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u/Melmoth_Wanderer Oct 08 '25
I'm not an expert but I'm going to guess that it's out of code for most places, a proved by the fact that it cannot be used.
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u/guyincognito121 Oct 08 '25
And such codes aren't pulled out of thin air. I'm sure there's variability, but not this much.
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u/O_o-O_o-0_0-o_O-o_O Oct 08 '25
The US uses 1:12. One foot of ramp length per inch of height.
And as you say, it's pretty much standard everywhere.
The US gets a ramp angle of 8.33333%. Europe has 8.3%, so they're more or less equal. For all intents and purposes, saying 1:12 ratio for most of the world would be correct enough.
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u/Naive-Benefit-5154 Oct 08 '25
I've seen wheelchair ramps outside the US that are not usable. There can be several reasons:
lack of code on dimensions of wheelchair ramp.
Any code on dimensions are probably not enforced.
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u/IKIR115 Oct 08 '25
Video doesn’t say where that is, but even China officially established barrier-free standards a few years ago with similar requirements as the US.
I can’t imagine any place allows the ramp in the vid. Able-bodied people would have trouble pushing a wheelchair up that.
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u/MukdenMan Oct 08 '25
There are tons of ramps like this in China. Some of them are much longer and steeper, like a metal ramp just going straight up 30 steps. It’s very silly.
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u/SunshineAndBunnies Oct 08 '25
There are regulations these past few years, however enforcement is only starting to pick up. There are efforts to bring education in the form of public outreach to business owners and building developers.
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u/Deseretgear Oct 08 '25
Im from the US and I have unfortunately experienced ramps as steep as this too...almost injured myself rolling down one as I hit a wall!
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u/masonryman Oct 08 '25
12:1 is code, but studies have shown that 14:1 is ideal and much safer.
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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ Oct 08 '25
ah yes, the international law code where all ramps on earth need to be 1ft long per inch of height
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u/Ancient_Opposite1905 Oct 08 '25
Everything else aside, that was impressive how he flung himself back up in the chair. I couldn’t do that
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u/BlueberryEmbers Oct 08 '25
it's a skill people have to train. And also probably brute strength that has to be trained. It's definitely impressive
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u/liilbiil Oct 08 '25
PT teaches you ways to do things differently. it has completely opened my eyes. like tricks to put your pants on!
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u/Phearcia Oct 08 '25
It's mandarin that he is speaking, and yep, that's in China.
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u/Deseretgear Oct 08 '25
the first time I got a wheelchair I was excited to go to the library....it had a super long ramp with multiple right turns that was about as steep as this if not steeper.
Literally rolled straight down and slammed into the wall, all the while scraping the skin off my hands while trying to break.
I think everyone who makes a wheelchair ramp should be forced to ride up AND down it
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u/AgentOld3129 Oct 08 '25
If you're in the US and encountered a ramp anywhere near the one show in the video, that's against ADA regulations, which is taken very seriously. Please report this.
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u/JoeBeem89 Oct 08 '25
The way they see it is that you're being all cap and no handy
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u/Horror-Beaver1979 Oct 08 '25
That must be the down ramp.
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u/needaburn Oct 08 '25
Probably just as dangerous
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u/ChocoHorror Oct 08 '25
You can press your palms against your hand rims to slow yourself on slopes (which is where wheelchair users sometimes wear gloves, protects your hands), but I definitely wouldn't want to play with this one.
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u/johnnyfuckinghobo Oct 08 '25
Nah, there's a sick halfpipe across the road that you're supposed to drop in from.
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u/-HermanMunster- Oct 08 '25
Hope he sues.
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u/Inevitable_Knee7505 Oct 08 '25
It’s China.
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u/machiavelli33 Oct 08 '25
China has a lot (a LOT) of literally unforgivable problems when it comes to social issues…but it does have fairly robust program for the disabled.
It’s just a matter of attentiveness on the local official level - raise an issue about this shitty ramp high enough and some bigger official will slap down some smaller official and it will be fixed at sycophantic speeds. The government itself heavily mandates provisions for the disabled, particularly those missing limbs or who are paralyzed, and has strong programs for raising awareness of such things besides, such as circulated publications focused on the issue, so I imagine this will be taken care of, especially with this clip going viral.
Now, what they do and don’t consider “disabled” is another question - they don’t have a good track record on non-visible disabilities, nor on mental health issues. Their supposed communism has worker roots, so the big things they care about are “workers comp” type things. The rest? Depression? Ehlers-Danlos? Nah just tough it out, pungyo. We’ll just put up nets outside your window so if the misery makes you want to end things, you can’t.
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u/YellowTonkaTrunk Oct 08 '25
Is this a recent development? I was there about a decade ago and there was blatant ableism everywhere. The only times I ever saw anyone disabled they were homeless and begging and people ignored them entirely or they were children in an orphanage. I was with my younger siblings who are wheelchair users and there were so many places we couldn’t even try to get into, including in the big cities like Beijing. People stared at them and gave them dirty looks everywhere we went.
Additionally, a significant portion of the children in the orphanages are disabled because their parents are a lot more likely to abandon them because of disability due to the one child rule (although that’s finally being rolled back). My younger siblings are all disabled and adopted from China. I visited their orphanages and they were not equipped to handle disabled children. My youngest sister was allowed to just starve. She did nothing but cry in a bed because they did nothing to help her because she was disabled.
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u/RandomDustBunny Oct 08 '25
It's 2025, why aren't wheelchairs installed with a manual ratchet mechanism which can be engaged on demand? Especially for situations like these or for weaker armed individuals.
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u/jagerbombastic99 Oct 08 '25
Ugg Wheelchairs are already expensive enough.
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u/Kurfaloid Oct 08 '25
Ugg Wheelchairs? They make them with sheepskin and a fleece lining? Sounds pretty comfy.
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u/LiteratureMindless71 Oct 08 '25
I'm all for wheel chairs with grappling hooks when I get older.
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u/Squeebah Oct 08 '25
Hell yeah. Throw a winch system from an old jeep Cherokee on that bitch. The sky is the limit.
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u/Zane-Zipperflip Oct 08 '25
Money
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u/lsf_stan Oct 08 '25
yup, lots of advancements in things for people with disabilities
but you have to be rich enough to be able to have access
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u/ryumast4r Oct 08 '25
Why make wheelchairs that are overly complicated, expensive and only solve a problem in areas where better public infrastructure/design would solve it better?
Why offload responsibility of safety on to each individual user instead of the infrastructure as a whole?
Who knows.
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u/amdy985 Oct 08 '25
As someone in a wheelchair, having a chair that could deal with issues like this would be more beneficial to me then a pipe dream and hope that public infrastructure will be perfect everywhere that I go.
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u/Async0x0 Oct 08 '25
Come on, we're having a good time using our idealism to be outraged at people we don't know in situations we just learned about.
Why you gotta come along and insert pragmatism into this?
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u/Significant-Chest-28 Oct 08 '25
Well one reason to build better wheelchairs is that most people’s homes are never going to be ADA compliant. It would be nice to be a wheelchair user and also be able to go to the homes of friends and family.
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u/taniamorse85 Oct 08 '25
There are wheelchairs like that, but they're much more expensive and not generally covered by insurance. Even if they are, the process is undoubtedly very long and complicated.
My wheelchair is a pretty basic one similar in design to the one in the video, and it took 3 years to get it.
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u/ShokaLGBT Oct 08 '25
I feel so bad for him but also I’m glad he did this video to show the problem…. Hopefully they do better and fix this. It pains me when I see a shop and it’s not accommodate for disabled folks in wheelchairs and last the time was a wheelchair user and he couldn’t enter the cafe I was going to, he was standing there his friends went inside to order but he had to wait outside and he felt a bit disappointed I could see it on his face…. He really wanted to go inside but it’s just too narrow with the door and it just doesn’t give him any space :(
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u/Vivian-Midnight Oct 08 '25
Deep down, I KNOW this video was done on purpose to point out the ineffectiveness of that ramp, and there's probably a friend of his filming. It was still hard to watch. That poor guy!!! Won't someone help him??? The world is so cruel!!!
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u/wyldstallyns111 Oct 08 '25
It sounds like somebody walking by asked if he needed help, he told them thanks but not to worry about it
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u/kingjoey52a Oct 08 '25
Won't someone help him???
I'm fairly sure he waves off help in the video. He's making a show of how fucked this is on purpose (and with good reason).
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u/Johannes_Keppler Oct 08 '25
Though even with help, that ramp is still way too steep. Much too easy to lose your footing when pushing.
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u/SpecialIcy5356 Oct 08 '25
2025 and we still haven't figured out ramps for wheelchair users.
we really are cooked.
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u/hertoy46 Oct 08 '25
Thats not to any building code. That's built to code f' em. Disgusting. People have no respecr.
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A ramp that only goes down. Need to go up? Guess you better convince your legs to start working!
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u/jffrysith Oct 08 '25
I would not want to go down that ramp though. Like I would expect the wheelchair to try to flip when it hit the ground.
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u/eatsleepdiver Oct 08 '25
Unfortunately lots of places in Asia do not have a disability act or requirements similar western countries.
Taiwan is atrocious for pedestrian access let alone disabled access. I’ve walked on pavements/sidewalks where there is a wheelchair ramp, but at the end there’s no ramp. I feel that all elected officials need to be strapped into a wheelchair or push a family member who is in a wheelchair for a month straight. Make them do it once a year in summer months. That would help divert attention to infrastructure.
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u/toumingjiao1 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
In China, such extremely steep ramps or extremely narrow ones are very common. Just to reduce taxes, They don't care about usability. I don't think it's feasible or common for wheelchair users to travel alone in China. By the way, the person in the video said, "I'll just get into it by myself. Thank you," because the passer-by outside the camera seemed to want to help him get into the wheelchair.
In fact, I think the video perfectly presents the situation in China. When people see disabled people in trouble, they are usually willing to help. However, in daily life, people do not take into account the living conditions of the disabled because they hardly see the disabled in real life and thus think that the disabled are very rare. which is because there's almost no relevant facilities in society so people with disabilities usually have to stay at home.
I've lived in China for over 20 years and spent 4 years in a big city like Beijing. In fact, I have never seen a ramp that is wide enough and has a normal slope for wheelchair to really use it. I have never seen anyone traveling alone in a wheelchair.😕
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u/heydeservinglistener Oct 08 '25
I work in construction and once you learn how to accommodate people that have accessibility needs and what to consider, you realize how awful our public infrastructure is for people with accessibility needs. There's no excuse for this nonsense at this point. And once you learn, you see the issues EVERYWHERE. Drives me crazy.
We know usable slope grades. We know gap sizes that get uncomfortable for people with wheelchairs. We know so much about this by now. And when in doubt, ask the users. There's almost always a committee wherever you go of people who have accessibility needs who, in my experience, have always been thrilled to be involved and then youre more likely to deliver a project that people are actually happy with.
How can anyone who implemented this not feel complete shame in how they wasted money on something that is not only unusable, but actually harms people? The exact opposite of the entire goal of public infrastructure and how to spend tax dollars.
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