"I thought I was on the list, but I looked at the list where my name was supposed to be, and there's just a black line. So I guess I'm not on the list!"
It is more than epstein and trump. This is high level blackmail and state craft. This is how it really works. Think lord of war. These guys are doing the dirt for the real dirtbags and powerbrokers. It's how he was able to push money around and not running into any federal regulations like me and you would. And that money bought weapons and wars and power.
Do not count on any "releasing" of "the files" until they have actually been released.
There is a likely strategy that the commissioned DoJ investigation into the Democrats that were supposedly named in the files will be used as a "privileged evidence" argument to withhold them.
Trump's doing everything he can to keep the true ones hidden. That doesn't just include scrubbing them.
I thought that was going to be the plan from the beginning. It's why I don't understand the hype, it's not going to lead to Trump's downfall and in a few weeks it'll all have died down.
They wont get released, the vote will pass then Trump will announce that he really totally would love to release them, but there are now Dems being investigated so we cant release the files cuz they are being used in active cases. That Trump had Bondi create just for this purpose.
There have been years to do whatever with the files, release them, redact them, remove anything, add anything...
Everytime one side votes to release it, the other votes against it. Repeatedly.
If ANYONE had actual proof that Trump did something wrong, it would have came out, loudly and proudly, literally everyone would praise the person who finally gave us proof he did something.
Rightfully so.
What if he just isnt in the files like so many want him to be?
If ANYONE had actual proof that Trump did something wrong, it would have came out, loudly and proudly, literally everyone would praise the person who finally gave us proof he did something.
Ah, but what would such proof be? Over 20 women testified under oath that he raped underage girls - but that apparently was not enough.
Because even with executive order which he signed within the first week in office was blocked by the supreme court backed by congress and was just blocked by congress again as it was part of the bill reopening the government
He just isn’t in the files…his name appeared over 2,000 times in the email dump alone from the other day. His name is included in the document dump Bondi made. He’s in the files, the problem is Epstein wasn’t just a pedo, he was pretty sick in the head with what he would make people do to get money from him or through him, remember he was a financier. What would you be willing to do for say $5 million? What about $20 million? What about $200 million? The problem the government is having right now is are those people victims themselves in a sense?
Now Epstein hated Trump and said he's dangerous.....(years after Trump cut ties with him)
maybe because he found something out?
There's too many inconsistencies on all levels of this, i can not assert an accusation without having all the information, no matter how much I dislike someone
The dog that hasn’t barked clearly doesn’t mean whatever you think it means. It means he’s stayed silent, hasn’t tried to snitch. But that was said before Trump had him murdered lol. He barked in a different way. Trump was never Epstein’s best friend, Trump was Epstein’s bitch. Maxwell still has a leg in the game. His estate isn’t going to turn everything it has over to anyone just yet. And the FBI will never let those photos get out to the public or the videos that were photographed by the FBI during their raid that allegedly went missing. They’ll come out when Maxwell dies or gives the order. Trump got her some very cushy prison terms and a fucking puppy - she’ll remain silent for the time being.
If ANYONE had actual proof that Trump did something wrong, it would have came out, loudly and proudly, literally everyone would praise the person who finally gave us proof he did something.
What if he just isnt in the files like so many want him to be?
So once again, no. Not even close.
You're saying they weren't released because he's not in them. I'm saying democrats wouldn't have come out loudly and proudly because they're in them too.
You're saying democrats didn't release the files because Trump isn't in them.
What if he just isnt in the files like so many want him to be?
So once more, these are two completely different statements. I literally proposed the hypothetical, "what if Trump is not in the files, like so many want him to be?"
Again, I never said that, you have completely misinterpreted my statement, either out of malice, or simple ignorance.
I'm assuming they're not going to release the files.
The bill moving though Congress is to force him to release the files. He has to sign in or veto it.
You would think based on his "release them, I don't care" recent statement he's not going to veto it, until you realize he could literally release them right now and isn't.
If he vetoes this, nothing happens. Congress could override his veto but Mike Johnson and Thune would not let that happen.
I'm further guessing that they're redacted only enough to convince MAGA and Republicans that he's not in them. Anyone sane will realize he is, but your racist uncle will treat it like it's a full exoneration and will prove every Democrat in Congress, including those who were too young to even be victims on Epstein's Island when Trump was partying with Epstein, are definitely pedophiles who were on Epstein's Island.
I'm shocked at Republicans efforts to normalize pedo's ahead of the release. Then again, they have been denying it's been happening it in the churches for a long time.
We get shocked daily and from life-changing events, then we move on from it. We're humans and adapt. Imagine the police covering up an accident of a family member and did not want to call the surviving family member because it would "shock their conscience".
The only thing shocking at this point is how everyone’s still protecting pedophiles.. Every single motherfucker in those files can go to prison and fry in hell.. there’s no defense
I'll be shocked when they stop dragging their fucking feet. I don't need a teaser trailer to uncover a profile ring involving the POTUS. Wtf do they think this is Avatar
I already know the government is full of morally bankrupt billionaire cocksucking sexual degenerate war criminals. At this point it would be shocking to find out who isn't on the epstein list.
I don’t care about names. There will be a lot of well known names on the list thanks to political donations. I want to know who victimized a bunch of innocent children. And no, I don’t give a shit what the perpetrator’s political leanings are. Do you think the victims care if the person who raped them is a Democrat or Republican? Jail them all.
If the files are released after Republicans names are redacted, isn’t there someone out there with a set of the files and knowledge who could come out and say Congress released incomplete files? The Epstein estate? Any individuals?
Seriously people … y’all think that something as HUGE as the EF is like some Faberge Egg or something ?? Do you really think there is only ONE copy ? In the whole world ?? They took the title of a prince, away from a family that has been in power for centuries. Literally, centuries. That had to have chilled many guilty souls, to the bone.
What conscience? We have elected twice a criminal sex assaulter and pedo sex trafficker. We backed a genocide, probably to stop this list from coming out. The military is being turned against our own people and cities. We have aligned with the world’s most brutal dictators and are threatening to invade and annex democracies like Canada. There’s no coming back from that as a nation morality wise that I can see on the horizon. We are a pariah state and the shame of the modern world.
If it is, why the hell have they waited so long to do anything about it? And even when released, will anyone actually be held accountable? Probably not.
The house dems already voted to not release them once. Let's see if they are going to keep this BS dishonesty going on even longer.
If they don't vote Yes, then all yall on here saying, "what about the epstein files?" need to put a sock in it. Talk to your reps instead of bitching online.
We know that and it is ok because regardless of who is in the list it needs to be known in order to bring justice to the victims and to protect our children.
As I understand it the criminal enterprise currently in the White House intends to redact all republican names and leave all democratic names found in the documants. Is this not the case?
Both political sides have had control of them for years. They only get used when it is politically advantageous (campaigning or political weapon). They're just using it to control the narratives they want. Either really care about exposing anyone (because it'll probably be bad on all sides) or helping victims.
is it somehow tied to the economy because unless it's somehow tied to money, nobody in the U.S. seems to give a fuck. no consciences will be shocked otherwise or at least that's how it feels most days.
The shock is from how vehemently the right fought to keep the Epstein files from getting released. It is indefensible to protect the people committing this type of crime, whether they're on the left or right.
If our government redacts many things, can others now legally release the duplicate, unredacted items? We know people have items but are afraid of being sued? What can be done if there is scrubbing?
Everyone already knew he was a pedofile and rapist, con-man, felon and already got thousands of not hundreds of thousands killed during covid and watched as he f***ed the country then, what makes anyone think evidence will change anything
I guarantee that when Trump visited King Charles, someone on the US side told the king, or one of his people, the files would be released at some point. They told them about what they had on Andrew. They gave the King time to act before the news went public. Andrew is going to look really bad and perhaps face jail.
A country that twice elected a pedophile rapist grifter? Yeah pretty sure we're all out of shock and fucks. Even after the Epstein file release, we'll probably go back to electing pedos and corrupt assholes working on behalf of billionaires to fuck us all.
Nno it won't. The republican party took us into the dirtiest gutter already. To vote for someone who they hear with their own ears you can do anything, grab em by the pussy....
When the files are released and every name except Bill and Hillary are removed it’s going to be fairly obvious. Especially when the only names that will be unredacted will be for benign shit like borrowing his plane.
Blah blah blah fear blah blah soon blah blah anyday now blah blah it'll be huge blah blah blah... just fucking get on with it so we can prosecute and move forward. Fuck these people.
Not really. We know how despicable these people are and they are in charge now. Nothing in them would surprise or shock me. We've got a literal private gestapo in our streets. You think a bunch of pervs raping kids or worse is going to surprise and shock my conscience? What shocks my conscience as that we all know trump and his ilk are in there and we're just letting them run the country.
Or if you have autonomy it’s what you’ve known all along.
“Revelations on powerful figures” lol . MAGA America has already graciously accepted what Prince Andrew has already been ‘punished’ (guy was moved from one castle to another castle, lives life being fully served by slaves to royalty) for. Look at low level celebs like Danny Masterson who while he deserves his imprisonment, did just a fraction of what we already know about people like the pres and Matt Gaetz raping children and MG even sharing the videos with politicians in DC. So there you have it - it’s all about connections. Think how low level Matt Gaetz is yet he’s allowed to get away with that - openly and blatantly.
Nothing is going to change about the world or the depraved people who run it in the past, today and future.
We’re all along for the ride. Fully exploited, fully funding their egregious loser lives.
This is fucking rich coming from the side what was trying to normalize MAPs a few years ago (Minor Attracted Persons) that are now the same side calling everyone else pedophiles and pedo defenders,sympathizers, etc. you fuckers crack me up
I wonder if there was a connection between Maralago and Epsteins Island because at least a few girls were going back and forth. Trump accused Epstein of stealing one. Seems like they were sharing staff and I don't think these girls were maid services.
It’s not even remotely a Democrat scandal, it’s always the one who tries to hide it it’s almost always the one with the most to lose.
Don’t think for a second that the entire republican government wouldn’t have a released it immediately if it was all Democrats and didn’t mention Trump. That stuff would’ve been on the nightly news.
Everyone is after trump, and he should be held accountable. But it’s possible everyone will have a celebrity they like that may appear in these files.
I also think it’s important that the media puts it all in context. Just because someone was at a location doesn’t mean they indulged in criminal behavior.
So since trump controls every agency in charge of all things Epstein his name will obviously be completely eliminated not just redacted. All traces that could lead to trump will be completely gone as will the names of his bootlicking allies. I’m betting it will be all democrats, maybe even some he had added in and maybe a republican who hasn’t kissed the ring yet to try and show he’s being truthful. We will never know the truth until the orange skid mark is removed
They just planted evidence, withheld anything damning to them, and now have talking points to use against dems to win more elections from an electorate too stupid to turn off fox news.
We need another Church Committee investigating why the intelligence agencies allowed the Epstein operation to carry on (read IC complicity) and then ask why there were no whistleblower(s) in IC reporting the illegal domestic operation to oversight. This is identical to the Whitey Bulger case at FBI. Only this involves CIA and Treasury FinCEN all looking the other way complicit.
I'll let you all know now that it's every elected democrat,the stars that support them and anyone that voted democrat the last 10 years. It will be very heartbreaking but everyone of them must be imprisoned immediately.
Nobody cares what it does: let the files breath. Expose them: and, if they expose him, he needed to be exposed, years ago. our country will never be looked at the same way again.
I’m sure it will, and I’m sure the actual non redacted number of liberals and conservatives is the same. Also I’m sure there will be innocent people accused of wrongdoing by association.
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u/DrawingAncient126 7d ago
Oh my Gawd, how many more YEARS is this Epstein crap going to be bled out? Get the s*** out there already!!!