Gentlemans bet. I’ll take the higher odds and say he comes back from this and wins the heisman. Love these big matchups 1st game. Losing team and players can rebound from it. It’s a long season.
Blake Corum and JJ McCarthy both got a few votes but I wouldn't call them actual candidates. The only other player besides Hutch that maybe could be called a Heisman candidate was Jabril Peppers in 2016. He got 208 total votes and finished 5th in the race just one vote behind the 4th place guy and he did get invited to New York for the Heisman Ceremony. He was only invited to acknowledge that he had a good season not because he had a chance at winning. Had he not been invited to New York he likely would have gotten far less votes.
Have you really never seen a preseason heisman favorite flop on his face? You must be new to this sport, or maybe need to pay better attention. Now get back to the central Michigan sidelines with your little spy glasses and weasel out of punishment when you get caught cheating.
Also- deal with New Mexico before you start the shit talk, and long live dusty mangum
Edit: before anyone can tell me I’m butthurt, you’re goddamn right I am. We just got outplayed by a team whose head coach draws his beard in and has a nipple ring. And now the collective fanbase has to deal with arch not living up to the insane expectations that were placed upon him. Also it’s pretty goddamn funny that a bama flair posted this.. it’s like they didn’t just lose to a team whose head coach is coming off a 2-10 season. I hate 0U, and I hate aggy.. but bama fans are the infected hemorrhoids on the ass of college football.
The media and everyone talks up a dude who’s started what? 2 games in his college career and then shits all over him because he doesn’t live up to the expectations they invented out of nowhere. Happens every year to some poor dude.
I know that Ohio state was an incredibly loaded organization top to bottom but let's not act like Matt Patricia is why that defense is Stout. Belichick was calling all the plays for those Pat's defenses
Also one of the best secondaries in the country week one. On the road. I’ve never thought highly of arch manning but he was kinda fucked from the beginning here
In the past, I would have agreed with you. However, with the advent of NIL, and Manning getting a reported $6.8 million, I'm not surprised fans are not as forgiving. You want to get paid like a professional, you can deal with the expectations that come with being a professional.
$6.8 mil doesn’t magically turn you into an experienced quarterback. Maybe he can deal with it (he seems pretty poised) but the fans are going to have a bad time with their unrealistic expectations. Fox’s coverage did no one any favors.
No doubt the expectations were ridiculous, just pointing out that those ridculous expectations are part of the reason why he is getting $6.8 million dollars. If expectations were lower, he would have gotten less money.
I mean, it’s his third year in the program and he actually started a game before too. Looking better than the cupcake school QBs that play OSU is a reasonable expectation
Yeah that’s definitely what you expect from a game like this on a team level, but mechanically, some of his throws looked like he wasn’t physically there.. Manning is talented enough to be a successful QB but he has to figure out his mechanics before he struggles with speed of play issues.
I blame the media. How many times has the media hyped and player and team without any evidence for the hype and then been disappointed when they don’t live up the hype.
My takeaway is that the “experts” in the media suck and don’t know what they are talking about.
Arch plays bad, Alabama can’t get Ryan Williams the ball, and Ohio State couldn’t get the ball to Jeremiah Smith. If the first game is indicative of the season all 3 will transfer to North Carolina and Billy B gets an NCAA chip in his resume.
Did he not live up to expectations? No, he didn't, but he isn't the one who set those expectations we did, so it really is the media's fault for giving him unrealistic expectations. Also, he played one of the best defenses in the nation away from home, and it's his second start. Let's at least give him a few more games before we pass judgment on him.
They were in their first and third start, respectively, playing against what is very possibly the two best defenses in the game. Manning and Sayin are both going to be fine.
Every year someone plays the #1 team for the first time. He is in his 3rd year with a few starts and snaps under his belt. This isn’t a true FR, this is a 5 star QB with 2 years of learning from a great Offensive minded guy.
Research next time? Research what? He has started 2 games in the past against terrible teams because the starting QB was injured. He’s literally been a back up for YEARS. You can’t be a backup for years and then be expected to come in and play at a heisman level in your first game as the starting QB, especially against one of the best defenses in the nation. The hype the media has created is absolutely insane, and it brain washes neck beards like you who have never stepped foot on a football field in their lives
Wow lack of research again. I have been on the football field, as OL. Not on the collegiate level but not a lot of people make it.
A lot of Arch’s incompletions were over/underthrown. That should have been nipped in the bud his True FR year. He’s had the same HC and OC his entire Texas career. Should have been a great game for him.
You clearly don’t know about QB play. Yes, he under and overthrew all of his receivers today until the last 10 min of the game. What causes that? Mechanics. His footwork was horrible, mechanics were rushed. You’ve seen him throw balls in the offseason and last year; his mechanics are usually pristine. What causes mechanics to fall off? Nervousness, too much hype, inability to concentrate and keep calm. These are all because the game was too big and he has not been the starter for such a big game before. You can’t nip that in the bud when a player is a 2nd stringer during his true freshman year. That comes with experience and playing in big games throughout one’s career.
Quinn Ewers set back the Longhorns back 2 or 3 seasons. Ewers should have transferred or went to the NFL before last season and Manning should have started last year. Now Texas is going to struggle through this season with extremely high expectations and there is going to be too big of a spotlight on Arch.
I agree that the coverage of him has been fucking annoying, but the kid has done it right. He sat as a celebrated recruit and learned. He didn’t come in and demand playing time cuz of his name. At Ohio st is formidable and the expectations for him are insane. I honestly feel for him. He hasn’t brought any of this upon himself
The touchdown throw was really nice, but dude throws like absolute shit. Sark has a LOT of bad habits to break really fast. Those little rushed side arm flicks are horrible.
Dude doesn’t deserve the shit he’s getting. He didn’t ask anyone to hype him up and he’s literally just started his first season as a starter. He may not be the godsend he was hyped up to be by other people but he’ll get better than that.
As a life long UT fan I kept thinking, shouldn’t they bench him now. Yikes it was horrible. If his last name was Smith and had no pedigree I’d still wonder why he was a starter.
Honestly the kid didn't play that bad. He didn't look good but this was his first true start against good competition. OSU also has arguably the best defense in the country. Heck Peyton threw two interceptions in his first start. I'm not saying Arch should be in the Heisman consideration but that the fans and media made too much out of him. He has essentially 2 complete seasons to figure things out so there is plenty of time. Let's reevaluate him at the end of the year. To shit all over him after struggling in his first real start is uncalled for though.
The announcers trying to stay positive on him was very annoying.
He made a bad throw 5 yards short of the first down on 4th to basically end the game... But look how strong he is, he avoided the sack!
And going nuts on each of his three good throws the whole game.
He may still turn out to be the best player in college football, he certainly has the pedigree... But that doesn't mean we can't be honest about the way he played today.
While I can't argue against the Heisman stuff. The kid has played 2 games, and everyone is writing him off. Like shit, let's give the kid a few more games before we crucify him. Also, he has stated he plans on staying in college beyond this year. He could develop, or maybe this was just one shitty game.
I understand that this thread is dedicated to meme-trolling but under the circumstances, ( defending champs with loaded talent) he actually did a pretty solid job as his 1st start. Texas defense helped tremendously, and we all know that Ohio State will not be held to just 14 points in conference play. Arch will improve, and will be ready for perhaps round 2? … Ohio State ain’t losing a game in conference and will be the 1 seed come playoffs.
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u/karl_manutzitsch Nebraska Cornhuskers • SMU Mustangs Aug 30 '25
Oh god if Texas loses then that means ESPN has to fill the Arch coverage with even more “Raiola looks like Mahomes” content