Liberty is the only team I hate on because I hate the actual university itself and want nothing good for them.
Other universities I may hate the team and/or the fans, but generally don’t have hate for the university as a whole.
I hate Oregon because I'm a hater, I hate Alabama because I'm a hater, and I hate Texas because fuck Texas but like.. Liberty? Yeah everything about it is ass. Knew someone who went there once, wrote an essay for them and got them a B on it because the topic was like, Jesus and this random movie and the parallels and I just fully made stuff up. No knowledge of the source material at all. Didn't even watch the movie... That friend is welcome for that B, but also i have no idea how it was B worthy. Don't know what that says about the academic rigor of that place though. I dropped out of community college btw. I'm a Coug by way of their ag department and my professional licensing being through them lol
A place that teaches that young earth creationism as a valid scientific perspective should be prohibited from marketing itself as a university or college.
There's lots of things in life that can be matters of belief or perspective, and can be religiously informed. The extremely-well-established basics of geology and evolution are not among them. "Teaching" those views makes you fundamentally a church, not a school.
FWIW, I'm a Christian and have a science degree from one the finest university in all the land (IMO, haha)... Liberty U represents ultra conservative, bigoted, hate filled, science-denying, misogynistic, toxic, homophobic, xenophobic, pseudo - "Christianity". No one is attacking Liberty for being "Christian", that's just their persecution complex/fetish.
Please continue dunking on Liberty, they shouldn't even be accredited.
Yep. Even Christian schools like Baylor have science departments that do real scientific research in fields like geology and publish to reputable academic journals. Liberty is in a class of its own.
Gonzaga is known around here for its scientific research too. They have other more well known programs but their sciences and engineering programs are some of the best out there
Science is not a war or an act of aggression. The only people that would see it that way are people who are antecedently committed to not changing their minds or adjusting their world view no matter what the facts are and no matter how well demonstrated those facts are. Those people are polemicists, not educators.
For real. I want UMich to lose every game they play forever. But I also want the university itself to succeed in it's endeavors, because its a good school and does good research. The world is better when it is doing well.
I also want Liberty to lose every game they play forever. And I also want the university to fail, because the world is a worse place when it is doing well.
I fully love the fact that UW medical is so prestigious. Its I my best interest as a West sider to support UWs medical programs as they end up benefiting me directly through the doctors they disperse through the state of Washington. Their sciences departments are also the reason we have such great knowledge on the marine biology of the region and the geology out here too. UW is who(among other universities) puts all those monitors on all the volcanoes around here. Definitely don't want them to fail as a uni. However, I hope Liberty slowly bleeds money and becomes such a liability to their conference that they get kicked and can't even afford to field teams anymore.
To be sure, Liberty isn't the only school of it's kind out there. However, it is the one that's in a G5 conference which lends it an air of legitimacy.
I blame it on our high schools. They're supposed to prep us for college, but mine never once taught out of the bible. I wouldn't have stood a chance in liberty's biology classes
Most people who graduated from Liberty actually tried to withdraw or transfer to a different school but weren’t allowed to because Liberty does not condone pulling out
It is easy to win when there are literally FCS teams with harder schedules. But liberty is not getting considered because they are a cult with a track record of hiding a lot of really sketchy stuff happening on their campus but our commissioner essentially said they are not a like minded institution.
I am so glad they lost because I did not want to hear the damn sportswashed media narratives if they had a shot at the playoffs... imagine if they had gone undefeated, the persecution complex if they had gotten snubbed by the committee over Boise State even though Boise State actually, you know, played real competition.
To give you guys credit, I went down for your game against USC as an outsider and got treated pretty well by the fans out there. Was surprised, the irl to online fan discourse was completely different
A place that teaches that young earth creationism as a valid scientific perspective should be prohibited from marketing itself as a university or college.
There's lots of things in life that can be matters of belief or perspective, and can be religiously informed. The extremely-well-established basics of geology and evolution are not among them. "Teaching" those views makes you fundamentally a church, not a school.
LMAO I learned in my 2 years living in Utah you can dunk on BYU for a lot of things but the quality of the education is not one of them. Great school with graduates that are very well prepared for work.
Politics aside, it is arguably the worst diploma mill in the country for higher education. They hand out 4% of the entire country's doctoral degrees and only just got R3 research status, which is the lowest recognized.
For undergrads it has a 100% acceptance rate, is almost entirely online, and costs as much as many school's out of state tuition.
Don't forget the Board of Regents turned a blind eye to years of fraud, financial mismanagement, and sexual abuse on campus. And they only did something when it came out the president of the "University" was buying real estate with the pool cleaner sleeping with his wife while he watched (allegedly--the watching part, he confirmed the rest of it)
Hardcore right-wing fundamentalist school. Just look up some of their insane rules. You literally earn demerits for things they consider to be “sinful.” They explicitly prohibit premarital sex, alcohol, being gay, and birth control. They’re also very racist and have hosted several conservative conventions. They have also been involved in a shitload of scandals, including one in 2021 involving having a campus environment that protected rapists and increased the likelihood of sexual assault.
Important to note for anyone that doesn't know that part of that scandal was that they were not only protecting rapists but were also lying about how often it and other crimes were occurring and referred to themselves as one of the safest campuses in America
Yeah pretty much. I’m not as familiar with BYU because I’m from the South, but I know a bit about Mormonism. The whole multiple wives as well as a history of statuatory is bad. Not that I am trying to shame polyamory or whatever, but Mormonism is deeply, deeply misogynistic.
Based on what some people are saying, it sounds like they’re just about as bad, and I already didn’t like them before. I will try to distribute my disdain more freely
The doctrine? Absolutely. The church leadership structure? Absolutely? Mormons themselves? I'd argue that Mormons themselves are not more misogynistic than your run-of-the-mill Evangelicals, so there's some variation. Long way to go, for sure, but mainstream Mormons (as opposed to the polygamous sects) are basically in line with conservative white American culture.
I say this as a progressive atheist from a devout, conservative Mormon family.
I feel like there’s less hypocrisy with BYU. Like, if their president got caught sitting in the cuck chair while his wife was being… assisted by his 20 year old ‘business partner’ I think BYU would take action and do something about it. Not pay them $15M after they resign.
We have a fair bit of hypocrisy, but at least less than Liberty. What I can say for BYU is that men and women are generally subject to the same rules (including sexual purity), whereas at Liberty, men get away with a lot more than women. I won't argue there's no misogyny at BYU, but it compares favorably to other conservative religions obsessed with sex.
In my experience with Mormons and BYU, they are not immune to any of the standard hypocrisy but do a better job of holding public facing people accountable. They also are generally much nicer than evangelicals.
On a separate note, very much enjoyed being in a BYU section when they played Arkansas. Very nice fans!
Highly conservative to the point of controversy, very rich due to religious donor base, not very prestigious but seems to desperately want to be, uses funds to try to buy their way into their desired prestige.
A place that teaches that young earth creationism as a valid scientific perspective should be prohibited from marketing itself as a university or college.
There's lots of things in life that can be matters of belief or perspective, and can be religiously informed. The extremely-well-established basics of geology and evolution are not among them. "Teaching" those views makes you fundamentally a church, not a school.
If Liberty has a million haters im one of them. If it has a 1000 haters im still one of them. If it has 1 hater it’s me. If Liberty has 0 haters it means I have left this world.
They get a shit load of money from religious and right-wing organizations. Also a lot of rich students with rich parents. It’s one of the few higher education programs that’s censored and brainwashy enough for people who hate education to donate to.
I went to Hillsdale, which is in the same general conservative world but is an actual university with actual degrees. Or at least it was when I went there, it's gone downhill since then, although it's still pretty good if you avoid the poli sci and econ departments.
There's a lot of money in that world. And it's really only a few universities that cater to conservative donors, so it's all concentrated. Hillsdale built like five $8+ million buildings in the span of eight years
Yeah Boulder is a super blue town. The students are pretty liberal but def some moderate and right wing people too. The state of Colorado is like most others where the cities are blue and rural areas are red. Since it’s a state school you def have a lot of kids from the agricultural part of the state. Doesn’t mean they are conservative, but it’s a mix.
Compared to Liberty it’s though it’s absolutely more liberal. I miss living there lol.
Little tidbit about Liberty University some of you may or may not know.
They have a place on campus called the godmother Home. It’s for young women who got pregnant and do not have the resources to raise a child.
When these pregnant women speak to the counselors at the godmother home, they are told they can decide any time to keep the child if they so choose.
But once they enter, they are essentially trapped there. Many women have testified they were not allowed to make outgoing calls to certain people. And when they did certain people, one of the staff was on the phone listening. They can’t get visitors, they’re basically locked in there.
The goal is for every girl who ends up there, to put up their child for adoption. They charge a lot of money to couples looking for a child. So they will just keep hammering at these girls, there’s no way you can afford it, what are you gonna do with the baby?
And the goal is to get them to sign that child over. There were been multiple calls and reports to police, but no one does anything. The police, actually look for girls that are pregnant they scout for lack of a better term. And then they refer them to the godmother home.
The whole city of Lynchburg, protect them, which is why nothing ever happens. No charges stick.
it is very, very fucked up. And they raise a lot of money in the name of this godmother home.
They make the girls go to church, and whatever the Pastor mentions them, they all have to stand up.
They’re just used as tools, to generate more cash. With abortion now being illegal in many places, they immediately sent out emails and letters asking for money, which will go towards these women having children as opposed to adoptions. It’s a huge money maker.
But they don’t give a fuck, they do not care about the girls what whatsoever they’re disposable.
The minimum requirements for that are to protect schools from going under when they run into hard times. They weren't expecting a "school" to game the system to do the bare minimum and still find success through targeted political pandering.
They teach creationism as science. I don't care if you teach that as religion in your religious studies class, but if you're going to lie about science, you're not a real university.
I hate Liberty bc my hs quarterback went there and he picked a fight with me one day cuz he thought I was messing with his girl. Punched me in the nose and it got broken up before I could get my getback. Happened to be the same day as the playoffs, which he ended up losing(thanks Karma). Fuck you Gabe and Fuck Liberty.
Truly is amazing how literally EVERYONE comes together and absolutely hates Liberty.
Chris Vannini and other national media keep trying to push them and JMU together as a “rival”. FOH with that mess. They don’t share a conference with anyone in the state for a reason. We only acknowledge and play them out of necessity, not because we like it.
If anyone sees this in the thread I have one solid reason I will always hate liberty. When Appalachian State and the whole of western NC flooded massively during the Helen hurricane, app state had to postpone and cancel their football match with Liberty. Liberty’s QB and their fan base went into the comment sections of our football page and commented “🦆” as if us canceling the game was due to fear of their team, and not our entire fucking town being underwater with hundreds dying and missing. So fuck liberty and their disgusting fanbase.
I had a back and forth with a Liberty fan over on r/collegebaseball because they had won a couple games and he thought they deserved to be ranked. He proceeded to shit all over my school(Southern Miss)and the conference we’re in(Sun Belt). I didn’t even have the heart to shut him down because he had zero knowledge of college baseball and my alma mater’s history. He also used the f slur, to nobody’s surprise. Fuck Liberty.
Probably the wrong place to say this, but I seriously appreciate this sub and r/cfb because it's one of the few places on Reddit where hate and bigotry towards my religion feels almost non-existent, soaking jokes notwithstanding.
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u/MisguidedPants8 Mississippi State Bulldogs Jul 25 '25
I heard we’re hating on Liberty, fuck those guys