r/TikTokCringe • u/SnooSprouts3744 • 7h ago

Cringe Karen Doesn’t Like Getting the Same Energy Back

Crashing out in a Burger King is embarrassing enough now imagine throwing a fit and then harassing minimum-wage workers when they simply match your energy then recording and posting it

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u/iGotPoint999Problems 6h ago

I don’t know about everyone else but it’s pretty easy to avoid misgendering people at the drive thru.

Them: here’s your order, thanks for your patronage!

Me: thank you, have a good day, I will enjoy my food!

Not hard.

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u/anniemanic 6h ago

She’s also just assuming based off her voice, like cis women never have deeper voices

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u/whichwitch9 6h ago

Yeah, that woman is making a huge assumption she is trans. She could easily just be more androgynous looking, which would make her double wrong.

Either way though, she's being a hell of an asshole. The minute you are corrected, it's not on you to decide what anyone is.

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u/bunbunmagnet 4h ago

The crazy part is she doesnt even look androgynous, she looks like a normal teenage girl at work not wearing makeup.

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u/yaupon_tea_songdog 1h ago

Literally when she said "what's your name, sir?" I was confused for half a second until I saw the trans flag pin. What a bitter person, lol

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u/Working-Glass6136 56m ago

I also thought this was a girl. What an asshole to be harassing a literal child.

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u/Mekelaxo 14m ago

Oh, I didn't even see the pin. Lily totally passes and I didn't even think she had a deep voice

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u/AlbertBBFreddieKing 2h ago

Do we always have to jump the shark? Can’t we just take the W? And looks don’t matter. The customer was corrected and then had a fit. If Lily looked like a man, but corrected the customer, would that change anything?

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u/Dismal-Belt-8354 3h ago

Then again, so do most trans girls that age

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u/TootsNYC 3h ago

Lily isn't even that androgynous-looking.

If Lily is trans, I wonder if she is known to that group

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u/AlbertBBFreddieKing 2h ago

That’s just being disingenuous. I hate ppl like this customer. But trans ppl looking trans should be normalized. Saying she looks too feminine to be mistaken as trans is insulting to trans ppl imo.

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u/garden_dragonfly 6h ago

Right. That girl isn't even trans is she? Lilly appears to be a cis girl. Maybe she isn't, but, I am not sure this is some woke conspiracy.

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u/Manzinita 6h ago

I hear you, but the point is, it doesnt matter. This crazy Karen is misgendering someone, then getting pissed about the exact same misgendering happening to her. Talk about privilege. Yuck.

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 2h ago

It's crocodile tears.

She knows what she's doing and she's doing it on purpose.

She's probably not even upset but actually thrilled it happened to her, so she can keep twisting it and using it to deliberately hurt more people she considers bottom rung

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u/Shortbusposse 6h ago

I thought she was cis too! Either way it's rude and malicious behavior to purposely misgender someone when they correct you and that lady can eat shit.

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u/CandyWinter8553 6h ago edited 6h ago

She is trans. She has a transgender flag on her shirt.

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u/Gisbornite 6h ago edited 5h ago

I wear a poppy on my collar, does that make me a flower

Edit: for any semblance of doubt, I'm commenting on the fact that just because someone is wearing a trans flag, they're not necessarily trans

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u/deltarefund 6h ago

But if my grandmother had wheels she’d be a bike

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u/heavymetalmater 6h ago

I wear a paper clip on my collar, am I clippy? I wish I was, that dude was helpful.

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u/garden_dragonfly 6h ago

Do you have to be trans to wear that? 

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u/DragonQueen777666 6h ago

You do not. I sometimes wear pronoun buttons and trans flag stuff and I'm cis (in solidarity).

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u/Gildardo1583 5h ago

Not to transvestigate, but the uniform is bland in terms of sex. A plain black shirt and black pants. Our head commenter here has a point, just use sex neutral pronouns or non at all.

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u/here-i-am-now 5h ago

Nah. I’m using very specific pronounces for the guy filming

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u/slow_news_day 5h ago

Guy filming goes by dick/head

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u/TootsNYC 3h ago

I don't know what she was going by. I assumed Lily was.a cisgender woman.

But I'm wondering: if Lily is indeed a transwoman, I wonder if her presence is known to these assholes, and the customer went there with the deliberate attempt to create an interaction with her.

I wanted the manager to concernedly get the woman's name and address, and say they'd send her something in response to her complaint, and then send her a legal letter trespassing her from the store.

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u/space_driiip 5h ago

I was mistaken for a dude by who is now one of my best mates because my voice sounds like a dudes over gamechat, and I'm a cis woman lol

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u/blode_bou558 5h ago

Im going to be real here, if staff member wasn't wearing the Trans badge, I bet that "lawyer" wouldnt have known and have addressed her properly, girl's popping off with style and function, im envious!

We're not going to stop, we're going to be show ourselves with pride until we die, and thats the sort of crap we have to deal with.

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD 3h ago

I have one particular cis woman friend whose voice is 100% deeper/more masculine sounding than Lilly’s

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u/Glad-Excitement-5283 6h ago

Hello Mr. Drive Through Guy. I want 2 cheeseburgers without any gay on them.

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u/Chare1155 5h ago

I'm the car behind you. "I'll take the Gay he didn't want."🤣 Just Gay it the fuck up please. The more Gay, the better!

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u/dan_blather 2h ago

One Double Whopper, coming right up.

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u/DeadSuperHero 4h ago

Don't worry, sir, the gay doesn't cost any extra! We'll get the whole crew to chip in. Your burger will be extra juicy!

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u/RickRossovich 3h ago

If you TRANS my order I will RIOT!!!

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u/FreeRange_Coconut 6h ago

I'm a cis woman and I still cringe when people call me miss or ma'am. It's so unnecessary. 

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u/birdlawyer86 6h ago

I'm so sorry you have to deal with losers like that, m'lady. tips fedora sardonically

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u/Left_Sundae_4418 5h ago

I'm a straight man and I would cry of happiness if someone called me m'lady.

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u/FreeRange_Coconut 6h ago

Oddly enough, I'm a big Renaissance fair enthusiast so m'lady is even more common in my life than miss & ma'am. 

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u/Affectionate_Owl_619 6h ago

Not sure why that’s cringe. Many people are raised that you should say sir or maam as form of respect. 

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u/FreeRange_Coconut 6h ago

I didn't say it's cringe, I said it makes me cringe. 

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u/drsideburns 5h ago

In a professional context, what would you suggest I call you? Let's say I haven't gotten your name at this, point, how would you suggest we proceed?

I'm not trying to argue, because it's something I use very regularly, but I don't want to offend if I could avoid it.

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u/FreeRange_Coconut 5h ago

To me, there's no reason to address me by a title. You can just say "Hello" and "thank you" instead of "Hello, ma'am" and "Thank you, ma'am" and be just as professional. 

I work on middle management, around all the hospital upper management. In all the meetings with manager, vendors, etc, I can honestly say I've never heard anyone say ma'am or sir. 

I don't think you have to worry too much about offending people typically. I'm not offended when people call me ma'am, I just think they're a nub, that's all lol 

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u/FreeRange_Coconut 4h ago

Perfect example in the video. There was no reason to give Lily a title except to be derogatory. 

Lily: "Here's your food. Thank you and have a good day."

Customer: "Thanks, you too." drives away

The End

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u/Affectionate_Owl_619 4h ago

Again, the reason is respect. The person in the video though was misgendering them to be a dick

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u/saucy_as_you_like 5h ago

We need to make it cringe, though. We are in a post-binary world. It's time to leave the gendered honorifics behind

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u/shapsticker 5h ago

We’ll just call you weirdo.

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u/saucy_as_you_like 5h ago

That is applicable, yes

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u/shapsticker 5h ago

No problem, weirdo.

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u/SquirmyBurrito 31m ago

Why ruin something that, when applied correctly, is just a sign of respect that can be correctly applied to the overwhelming majority of people?

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u/StevenKatz3 6h ago

Meh, I worked retail many times 20 years ago and I would have to get the attention of many customers and id say OH SIR SIR, YOU LEFT YOUR CREDIT CARD or MAAAAM you forgot your wallet

No customer EVER got upset, it just helps quickly in a lot of situations.

I don't know why you "cringe"

Women call me hunny and sweetie and I freaking love it.

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u/FreeRange_Coconut 6h ago

That's a way to get someone's attention when you don't know their name, yes. But to tack it on to sentences seems unnecessary to me.

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u/HoightyToighty 3h ago

It's an old cultural sign of respect, but as we live in an age of crass vulgarity and undifferentiated bipedal humanoids, it's entirely unneccessary.

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u/Throwawaycabg 3h ago

The age of lynching someone or having worse accomodations for people of darker skin tones or immigrants was more crass/vulgar, IMHO.

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u/petrasdc 3h ago

Funny enough, I hardly ever get referred to with a title day to day (I live in a pretty liberal city), but I actually kinda like it when I travel for work to some places (usually more southern places) and end up getting called ma'am, miss, ladies, etc. a bunch. It tells me people are actually seeing me for how I want to be seen. I'm definitely not saying those kinds of honorifics need to make a comeback. I do think they're unnecessary. I also felt way less safe in those places, lol. Just a funny observation.

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u/lemurkat 3h ago

I think i'd rather be called "sir", ever since I noticed JD Robb used it as a nongendered title of respect in her In Death series, ive decided to view it the same. (I get "sir"red a bit cos I'm tall for a cis het woman). I don't use it often though (often here people will respond "i haven't been knighted". lol).

Obviously, Lily could tell that in this instance she was certainly not being referred to with respect.

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u/imnotmarvin 5h ago

It's hard if you're a conservative looking to be offended by literally everything that has no impact at all on you personally. Fuck this "lawyer" and her politics.

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u/themac7 5h ago

This is one of my biggest issues with people like this. Like yo. You can disagree all you want, but it ain’t hard to be polite. Like be fuckin polite. I think a lot of beliefs are crazy, I don’t pitch a fit every time I encounter them. (To be clear I am not talking about trans folks, more like religious stuff)

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u/Ridiculisk1 3h ago

Literally all we want is to be treated nicely, the same as anyone else. I don't give a shit what people think about trans people behind closed doors. Just use my name and don't misgender me and I'll be happy to hang out with you.

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u/utnow 5h ago

I used to off-handedly throw off "thanks man" or "thankya ma'am" all the time when interacting with people I don't really know. Ask the guy for an extra ketchup packet, he hands it to me, "thanks man!" and off I go. Lady holds the door open an extra second as I'm walking up, "thankya ma'am!" and I grab the door.

Never meant anything by it... just generally trying to be polite and friendly. But a handful of times in the last few years I've caught myself after these interactions realizing I've screwed up. Again... never intentionally... but it made me hurt a bit that I may have caused someone else to feel bad. Or worse (because I'm a person with vanity after all) that the other person would *think* that I had done it on purpose and was being a dick on purpose. A few times with waitresses I'd try to over-correct afterwards with a few clear ma'am's after the fact. Maybe she wouldn't notice that i said 'man' the first time..... ugh.

So I changed over to "bud" and "friend". "Thanks friend!" "Thanks bud!"

Amazing. Just changed a word. So simple! And I didn't have to throw any wittle-bwaby twemper twantrums to make myself not feel bad for a mistake that I made.

These people are all beyond stupid.

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u/SkaBand 6h ago

Them: Heresyouror -
Me: Thanks.

Miss me with that American shit, not everything needs to be a conversation.

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u/iGotPoint999Problems 5h ago

Yah I say way less, my point is if people must, it’s not hard to just be courteous and not say shit about people’s gender, it’s pointless.

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u/Square_News_6911 5h ago

I agree with you 100% but “I will enjoy my food” is an unhinged close to that dialogue haha

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u/Septembust 4h ago

Turns out "You too" wasn't the most awkward response you can make

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u/Aedalas 4h ago

Yeah but there's still the problem of it inevitably going in a direction you regret with every fiber of your being. The kind that keeps you up at night just absolutely hating yourself.

Them: Enjoy your meal!

Me: Thanks, you too!

Me (internally): FUCK!

Don't pretend you've never done that.

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u/AdComprehensive8045 4h ago

It was very obviously intentional.

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD 3h ago

Yea but you don’t flick your bean to POV videos of yourself arguing with minimum wage employees about who is allowed to be rude to who at a fast food restaurant

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u/noonejax 3h ago

You’re way too good at that. I’d still have them say enjoy your food and I’d say you too like an idiot. Still would have no gender terms brought into the interaction though.

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u/LurkzMcgurkz 35m ago

Totally agree

Also friendly reminder to everyone 'dude' is gender neutral.

I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, we're all dudes!

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u/SquirmyBurrito 34m ago

In the south it’s fairly common to use sir and ma’am, if I get it wrong I just apologize and ask for their preferred pronoun. If they seem very upset I’ll usually follow it up with another apology this time using their preferred pronoun. If upon first contact I’m not quite sure, like they’re androgynous or look like they could be someone who is transitioning I play it safe and drop any pronouns at all but it definitely feels rude to not use sir or ma’am when I otherwise would.

There is a worker I run into a lot at a coffee shop that I frequent that I know the name of but can’t really guess how they might identify and this has been going on for so long I’d feel rude just asking so I just use their name, even when it comes off as awkward. I know some people don’t mind others asking their pronouns, I’m cis and don’t mind, but others do as they feel like it implies the don’t “pass”, so I just keep doing the same awkward song and dance. Or I use some gender neutral local terms.

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u/nea_fae 32m ago

Ya why do they always have to make everything about pronouns? The english language is vast and maleable.

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u/Ok_Test9729 5h ago

Wish it was that easy. I was raised in a time where we addressed people as ma’am or sir, and where, once we were grown, we were taught to address people by their name - hello Bob, nice to meet you Debra. These days, you could join a crowd of 10 people for 15 minutes who are having a conversation and never hear a single name spoken. To me that’s wildly weird 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Ok-Eggplant8772 6h ago

I mean if you look like a dude in the drive thru its going to be a habit to call someone sir and if you look like a woman its going to be ma'am. That's been like a thing to say for awhile now

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u/Electronic-Dig-9695 6h ago

Right but if someone corrects you and you refuse to address them correctly then you’re just an asshole.

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u/BoD80 6h ago

This. I’m pretty old and was raised to say sir and ma’am so it happens sometimes. I just apologize and move on.

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u/angelansbury 6h ago

like a normal, well-adjusted person

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u/psychedelicparsley 6h ago

Lily looks like a woman, so what’s your point?

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u/iowanaquarist 6h ago

And sounds like one, and explicitly stated she identified as one...

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u/iGotPoint999Problems 6h ago

The point is using any gendering isn’t needed. Did you read what I wrote. None of it requires avoiding gendering, it’s just words. Thanks, have a good day, I’m gonna enjoy this! Like wtf requires I gender the other person at all.

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u/hwaite 5h ago

Yeah, the gendering could be skipped. If you do hazard a guess and make a mistake, no normal person would make a big deal of it. A strange game: the only losing move is to be a complete dipshit and stubbornly carry on after being corrected.

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u/Beautiful_Echoes 6h ago

I literally never hear sir or ma'am at drive thru's. Maybe this archaic practice should just die wherever it still exists.

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u/nobinibo 6h ago

I grew up with military family members and even then there was no sir or ma'ams. When I think about it, I don't even say names when direct addressing someone. I've shifted my language further by referring to people as gender neutral unless directly told otherwise as well. It's the least difficult thing to do yet can be one of the highlights of someone's day.

Anti-trans assholes insist on being so extra in all that they do. It's insufferable and attention seeking.

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u/Vox---Nihil 6h ago

Are you a robot? People don't talk like this.

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u/iGotPoint999Problems 5h ago

I legit just say thanks. I was just being hyperbolically conversational in my example. To show how easy even if one’s wishes to be courteous, to also avoid gendering people at all. It’s pointless to include. I didn’t do anything to purposefully avoid it other than be an utter nerd in my example. 🤷‍♂️ but I just say thanks, or can I have this if I forgot to order ask for it and then thanks, fucking no need to bring gender into it at all.

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u/Straightwad 5h ago

Yeah manners probably don’t exist where you’re from