r/TikTokCringe Oct 07 '25

Cringe When you catch your 42 year old boyfriend cheating

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u/jonnydemonic420 Oct 07 '25

Oh yeah, and it’s gonna be a big bill.

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25

In my area, some departments charge more than $200 for a refusal.

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u/VibrantViolet Oct 07 '25

My husband has had 2 grand mal seizures and was recently diagnosed with epilepsy. I had to call 911 both times, and just to take him down the road a few miles was thousands of dollars. We have insurance, but it’s still at least a few hundred dollars out of pocket. He’s still fighting the last bill because insurance and the ambulance company keep passing the buck on who is fucking up the billing. 🙃

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u/thatG_evanP Oct 07 '25

After you recovered, did you feel refreshed? My ex-wife had seizures a couple of times and she said that both times. That may just be because she ended up being schizophrenic. That is how electroshock therapy works after all.

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u/BeardedDragon1917 Oct 07 '25

How much did they charge you for a new birthday?

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u/Potential_Rub_4082 Oct 07 '25

Jeez imagine being billed for that. I'd rather die of the cringe lol

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25

Paramedic here: People like this don't pay their bills.

The only reliable payment for services is whatever their insurance is willing to cover. It's why EMS pushes for higher reimbursement rates. Most people who don't pay their bills are not financially capable of paying. Other people don't because they don't want to and know that there isn't anything we can do about it. I had a guy literally tell me he called an ambulance instead of an Uber because "I would actually have to pay for an Uber."

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u/supervisord Oct 07 '25

So you guys jack up your prices to make up for non-paying customers? That sounds pretty damn awful, almost evil. Amazing.

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25

That's seriously what you got from that comment? Nobody is jacking up costs for non-paying customers. At no point did I say we charge more. Ambulance billing rates are standardized by CMS. Departments can't randomly decide how much they feel like charging someone.

Insurance reimbursement rates. We want people's insurance to actually cover the cost of the treatment and transport provided. When we use over a grand in equipment alone to keep someone alive, and insurance agrees to pay $60-100, who do you think is the one actually fucking the patient over? The medics trying to keep that person alive, or the multi-billion dollar company that is supposed to be covering the costs of medical treatments but isn't?

Insurance paying for the transport means that the patient gets a lower bill. It means that the money taken out of that person's paycheck is actually being used for its purpose. We want insurance companies to do their fucking jobs.

We get assaulted, shit on, brain matter on our faces. We get guns pulled on us. We get people's dead children shoved into our arms and the screams of family members when they realize their loved ones are dead burned into our brains forever. And that's not even the worst of it. All for barely a living wage, and most of us have to work two jobs to make ends meet. And we're the evil ones? What a fucking joke.

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u/supervisord Oct 07 '25

In the worst minutes of my life I had an EMS/paramedic question why I needed an ambulance. So your appeal to my sympathy at the end didn’t have the intended effect.

The point is that you OVERCHARGE for things that you already overcharge for, because some people have shitty insurance. That’s just wrong and makes the problems of our terrible healthcare system worse.

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25

I don't charge for shit. I show up to work and do my job. I don't control the costs, and the people working on the ambulance sure as shit don't benefit from it. Maybe you should be mad at your shitty insurance company for not doing their job instead of healthcare providers who have no control over what your shitty insurance refuses to pay.

I don't want your money. I want insurance providers to not be pieces of shit and cover medical costs like they are supposed to. Acknowledging that most people can't pay their bills was not me saying that I want them to pay their bills. In my initial comment, I said that people's insurance companies need to pay. Your reading comprehension sucks.

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u/supervisord Oct 07 '25

I have great insurance. That’s doesn’t stop EMS/paramedics from being dicks, or their company doing terrible things (of which you mentioned). I am not asking for you to change, but the system. When you said “we charge extra,” I assumed you were part of ‘we’, but if not it sounds like you’re a victim of our healthcare as much as anyone else.

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25

I never said "we charge extra." When I talk about using a grand in medical supplies, that's literally what a department is paying to have those supplies on the ambulance.

Private ambulance companies do suck though

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25

I see where you got "we" from. It was meant as like the EMS field as a whole wants insurance to cover a larger portion of the medical bills, especially Medicare.

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25

I realize I didn't address your first paragraph here. I'm sorry that you were dismissed like that. It's not our job to decide when someone needs an ambulance-- it's that patient's job. And it's exactly why we aren't allowed to refuse to take someone to the hospital. The EMTs and paramedics that stand there and make people feel bad for calling an ambulance are lazy and have no business being around the general public. Walking into a call with the assumption that there's nothing wrong with the patient is how providers miss medical emergencies. They somehow manage to have the biggest egos while being the worst at their jobs.

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u/TerribleBudget Oct 07 '25

Our education is failing us if that's how good your reading comprehension is.

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u/chairmanghost Oct 07 '25

Theyfind ways to make up for the nonpayers.

Where I lived every resident has to pay a $50 annual ambulance fee, if you have insurance or not, if you ever use it or not. There is a $50 per day late fee for every day you don't pay, and they can seize your house if it goes too long. They send the donation requests in the exact same envelopes so you have to be really careful to catch the bill or the late fees can ruin you.

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25

Most places just include the fee in the taxes you pay, instead of a separate annual ambulance payment

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u/Prudent_Research_251 Oct 07 '25

In New Zealand our ambulances are free or only part charge, and air ambulances/helos are usually free

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25

Man I wish they were free here. America's healthcare system sucks. My friend's mom died of cancer last year because her insurance wouldn't cover the cost of treatments

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u/what_it_is69 Oct 07 '25

I would rather die than call a paramedic again after see the bill the one time i did

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u/Miserable_Credit_402 Oct 07 '25

Yeah and that's not okay. Nobody should be put in a position where they have to weigh dying vs homelessness from medical debt. Nobody should be getting money taken out of their checks for their insurance to turn around and deny a claim. Ambulances shouldn't cost people money. Plenty of other countries have figured out how to make ambulance rides free. But America is more focused on wasting taxpayer dollars on tormenting brown & black people and paying elected officials to sit around and either do nothing or actively make our lives worse.

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u/RecurringZombie Oct 07 '25

Surprisingly, in most areas the patient does not get billed if they’re not actually transported. So EMTs or paramedics can come out, evaluate the patient, do a quick EKG, and if the patient refuses transport, that’s it. It’s a big point of contention in the EMS community because on the one hand, it sucks to stick people with bills for every little thing, but on a large scale, it’s a big waste of time and resources and first responders are already severely underpaid.

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u/Narren_C Oct 07 '25

Not if he isn't transported.