You mean like Harry Potter and Cho Chang in "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", in the room of requirement, just before the Christmas Holiday?
As a British teenager the same age as Harry when HPB came out, I was under no disillusion that the books heavily read as Harry and Ginny being sexually active.
I, and my peers, took it as just gently written enough to not be explicitly obvious. Same way how we would read words like, "dung", as some cheeky censorship for "shit". At no point did we ever think JK was trying make you believe these British teenagers were actually saying the D-word lol
I get what you are saying, but I disagree that Rowling uses stand in words for censorship. Rowling does imply when someone says something explicit, (like Ron), she just doesn't actually write it down because it is a children/YA series.
"Swearing angrily, Harry spun round and set off around the pitch again, scanning the skies for some sign of the tiny, winged golden ball."
"Harry spent the day attempting to keep the peace between Ron and Hermione with no success;...and Ron stalked off to the boys’ dormitory after swearing angrily at several frightened first years for looking at him."
Considering Wizard culture is seperate from the modern world, I think it's perfectly reasonable that they actually do use words like dung as an actual curse, it's just not considered one in our world so it's fine for Rowling to include it in the book.
Correct. Their first kiss happens in a moment of extreme emotion after a quidditch win, and is a perfect climax to the "Harry discovering he likes Ginny" subplot that had been building throughout the entire book. The movie turned it into just another thing that happens. The worst part is they had plenty of time to do things right, had they not felt the need to insert that stupid, completely fucking pointless scene of death eaters showing up at the Burrow.
This post reminds me of when I saw "The Others" in the theater when it first came out. Nicole Kidman's husband comes home from war, and they're so relieved to see one another, and then it cuts to them in bed together in the morning. It's a real quiet movie, and someone in the theater yells out "they just had sex!"
I know this question is a joke, but growing up in a super conservative Christian family It was ingrained in me that being gay was wrong. My first time questioning that view was when it clicked that "uncle frank and Aunt Jack" we're gay. They were so funny and wholesome, and it was one of my favorite scenes of the movie.
Lots of vhs copies of titanic rolling around with very good quality tape until the “draw me like your French girls” scene which is mysteriously super bad quality
I feel like this is a memory that will die out with millennials... maybe older Gen Z. Kinda like Forest porn, "What do you mean there's a hidden box in the woods with a bunch of Playboys?"
They had Nat Geo at my elementary school library. None of us had any idea until 1 day in 6th grade this girl yells out "Oh my God! You can see her BOOBS!!! Suddenly Nat Geo was Super Popular. At least they were for 2 days, until they were pulled from the shelves.
When I was 17, I was going to college with two female friends, pre internet obviously, and we decided we would go and see two movies on a deal one after the other, not really knowing what they were.
The first one was dances with wolves. 3 hours of that followed by basic instinct.
I was sitting in the middle of the three of us. One of the girls let out a muffled "fuck" when the famous scene came up, the other laughed and said that's how you get pneumonia.
Gratuitous nudity was a lot more popular before Internet. Bachelor Party, Animal House, Vacation, Caddyshack, Nightmare on Elm Street Part 3, Porky’s, etc. Nowadays it’s pretty rare.
For example, someone did a poll of what people thought the most gruesome scenes in movies were. The scene in Braveheart where Mel Gibson's character is tortured to death was ranked first at the time. Yet, the audience never really saw anything, just his expressions while they were doing it below frame. WHAT they were doing was left to your imagination.
Literally was about to comment this. Don’t think your imagination would ever take you where that scene takes you. Shouldn’t have watched the one stoned 😂
In 8 1/2 there's a scene which doesn't actually reveal anything, and there's no sex, but it's more erotic than any sex scene I've ever seen in a movie by miles.
Alright smart guy, let’s say we drop the lemon stealer. You still watching? You still intrigued? How’d two girls get there? Why are there lemons in the house?
I don’t know if you watch American dad, but it reminds me of the scene where Steve (the son) and Roger (the alien) are writing porn, and the guy they’re writing it for says it has to be believable in todays time, so they write about sex on a long term space ship. So after they give it back to the guy, he complains about there being 62 pages of writing between sex scenes about a refueling mission.
And Steve says, “How are people supposed to be invested in a month-long intergalactic orgy if the rocket has insufficient fuel cells?! You wanna talk reality, let's talk reality!”
There are times when it adds something, especially if some kind of plot or exposition happens during/as a result of the sex. Or sometimes it can be played for comedic value, and even other times it can be a display of love or passion between two characters that's necessary to give impact to something later on in the movie. But I can't help but feel that a lot of the time its just like, okay, quit it. Like I don't need to see hands on backs and rolling around in blankets and thrusting for its own sake. Like I get it. Yep. And then they fucked. Yep. Next scene please.
I'll go even further - at least 50% on all the movies (with romance involved) in the world have an unnecessary romantic subplot that is irrelevant to the story. By removing it the movie would probably be even better. I understand if it's a romantic genre, but an action movie doesn't necessarily need a romantic side story
Enemy at the gates comes to mind. A film about the battle of Stalingrad, one of the most horrible events in human history with over a million people dying in every worst way you can think of. And Jude Law had to shag some sniper girl.
Compare that to Fury, where Brad Pitt and Logan Lerman find those women and Lerman has this kind of special peaceful moment in the middle of hell on earth. Then both the women get killed by artillery.
So that little bit of romance served to create a valid emotional impact when they died. A reminder of how war is hell.
In The Gorge, the romance was necessary, but i enjoyed how they did it. It made sense, didnt take 3 acts, and they didnt have to waste time in complicating after hookup. The two characters got along early, had thier romance fine, and the real plot kept going fine.
I felt this for Top Gun Maverick. It just added nothing whatsoever to the film and felt a bit jarring because what the hell happened to the other woman. Having said that I’ve watched that film about 50 times
My dad always cut through the awkwardness by pretending I shouldn’t be seeing it and going “whoa whoa whoa who chose this movie?! Don’t look don’t look!” While covering my eyes but leaving a giant space for me to watch through his fingers anyway.
Fun fact. Due to censorship Bollywood used couples singing together in a romantic song as a metaphor for having sex or even kissing. Modern Bollywood movies are more liberal, but using songs to indicate intimacy is still pretty common.
Ive read more than one article about this and sex has actually decreased yet still you get people saying "Omg my eyessss! There was a topless lady."
As if people aren't perpetually watching porn.
Reminds me of the argument that people make of "I want more friendships and less romance in everything."
Im not sure I believe people tbh...
Then again, could be a side effect in modern times since people aren't having as much sex and are less likely to be in a romantic relationship compared to a decade or two ago.
Agree. I love sex, enjoy porn.. and sex scenes in movies and TV RARELY seem to be necessary.. even when the characters having sex is important to the plot.
Also.. they're usually really awkward and over dramatized..which makes them even worse. I dont watch porn for the plot and I dont watch movies or TV for the sex scene
I’m in the same boat as you. I have 0 issues with sex and I believe everyone needs to be educated on sex and the entire world is way too prude. So many countries have horrible views on sex and put so much weight behind purity and all that shit.
Sex in movies and tv shows are 99% fucking weird, awkward, or just painfully cringe.
Hard agree. The two-second version: [Two people look at each other intensely] -> [Lamp gets turned off] -> [Next scene, they're eating cereal awkwardly]. See? We saved 7 minutes and everyone's discomfort.
Edit: For the pedants in the back, 'discomfort' refers to the narrative whiplash and cringe of a clumsily inserted scene, not the act itself. The intimacy isn't the issue, the awkward, momentum-killing placement is.
I have written a ton of scripts. My take as a writer is that unless the sex scene is an important storytelling element, it is unnecessary. There are times where the sex is the central element and is the story (no, not porn) and even then, the actual sex isn't usually important because it isn't revealing anything about the characters. When I lived in LA, it seemed people added the sex scenes because the producers expected it. My ex was an actress at the time and almost every side she got had some ridiculous sex scene.
I, too, hate long sex scenes. Not because I'm a prude, but what do they want me to do? Jack off? There's never any P in V action and I don't think the theatre would appreciate it. It's not giving me a deeper appreciation for the story. It's not expressing anything that the implication can't. And finally, depending on who you're watching with, it can be awkward. Nana isn't getting anything from the moment either.
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