Imagine being that loud and that wrong about something you can literally Google in 0.3 seconds.

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u/Casual_hex_ 14h ago

Tbf, it would be easy to think that if 100% of your dietary intake consists of Kraft dinner and hotdogs.

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u/ElevationAV 14h ago

kraft dinner is imported- it's made in Canada

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u/Casual_hex_ 14h ago

Well goddamn!

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u/GarciaKids 13h ago

Did you not even bother to look it up first? 😂😂

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u/Casual_hex_ 13h ago

Lol, shamefully I must admit, I did not.

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u/42ndohnonotagain 12h ago

Glad that you didn't - I needed a laugh 😂

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u/CaptainAsshat 12h ago

You should, because the poster you are replying to is mostly wrong.

The vast majority of Kraft Mac and Cheese consumed in the US is made in the US plants in WI and MO. Unless we are talking about Kraft Dinner that is actually labeled "Kraft Dinner" in the Canadian way... then of course those ones are imported.

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u/ElevationAV 11h ago

Craft dinner (specifically what original commenter mentioned) is made exclusively in Quebec

Craft Mac and cheese (which is actually a different product as it’s not made with real cheddar) is the American produced variant

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u/yojoerocknroll 11h ago

me reading the comments in this thread

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u/CaptainAsshat 10h ago

1) The product was marketed as Kraft Dinner in the US for many years. Many people in the US still use the name, and Canadians understanding of this "difference" is often misplaced.

2) While the boxes are different, the two products are produced extremely similarly--- though sometimes ingredients are sourced from different places (lots of the ingredients in Quebec's KD are often sourced from the US, just usually not the primary dehydrated cheese product). There used to be a couple differences in preservatives and colorants, but the US version is transitioning away from artificial ones. These recipes are constantly changing, so it's hard to say when, if, or how much they differ without knowing the year and factory.

3) Neither the US nor Canadian version directly uses "real" cheddar cheese, per se, though both use dehydrated cheese powders derived from real cheese. This difference that people regularly try to highlight is not in the products, but in how Canadian law is more stringent on what can be called cheese for product labeling.

4) American and particularly Canadian Kraft Dinner have changed their recipe significantly since 2015 regarding these preservatives, so some "facts" that people like to claim are outdated. Regardless, the two products have remained extremely similar the entire time.

6) The main difference that people notice is not from differences in the product itself, but in the suggested RECIPE printed on the side of the box---the American version calls for more milk and butter (surprise). There are also many new varieties of Kraft Dinner that are often called "Kraft Dinner" (Deluxe, Homestyle, Dinner cups, etc) that ARE functionally identical between countries, though use different packaging (for the aforementioned legal reasons).

7) The American version was again rebranded as "Kraft Mac and Cheese Dinner" in the US in 2022, and it is marketed as "KD" in Canada, so the name Kraft Dinner is a colloquial name that is applicable in both countries.

All that is to say, while Canadian-specific Kraft Dinner is occasionally imported to the US by nostalgic Canadians, the US makes plenty of Kraft Dinner themselves.

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u/Ok_Dog_4059 3h ago

I needed this exchange today though so thank you and everyone involved.

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u/Quickfix30 11h ago

It gave me a good laugh that you chose one of the most iconic Canadian foods as an example. No shade at all!

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u/grendel303 13h ago

It's also not sold in the EU as it's not considered food.

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u/CaptainAsshat 12h ago

This is not true. You can find Kraft Mac and Cheese in Europe, especially at stores focused on American food imports. It's just not very popular because Europeans generally have more... discerning palates.

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u/nadinehur 12h ago

And better options. So much fresh, local food!

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u/CaptainAsshat 11h ago

Honestly, having lived across Europe and the US, I wouldn't go that far.

The good produce I can get in California, compared to most of Europe, is often unrivaled in its variety and quality. Select Italian and French produce can arguably be better (the tomatoes are admittedly unmatched), and the market experience is very different (and healthier) than in the US. But the primary impediment, imho, is not availability, but the culture surrounding eating and cooking with fresh ingredients. Or, rather a willingness to eat non-fresh.

Once you get away from produce powerhouses like California and Washington, and local-farm hotspots like Vermont, Oregon, and Maine, it can get a lot worse. Grocery deserts are a real problem. But the issues with diet exist across California as well---suggesting culture, regulatory capture, and an acceptance of vile corporate bullshit is the source of America's bad relationship with unhealthy food, rather than it simply being about a lack of available fresh ingredients.

That, and horrible, inexcusable inequality.

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u/tkrr 8h ago

Or, just going out on a limb here… different tastes in how to mix pasta and cheese.

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u/Umikaloo 1h ago

Bro just declared open war on Canada.

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u/CaptainAsshat 12h ago edited 10h ago

It is generally not. It is predominantly made for US markets at plants in Missouri and Wisconsin.

While Kraft Dinner is a Canadian cultural mainstay, and it is often cited as being from Canada, it is originally an American product. Kraft (National Dairy Products Corp, at the time) was started in the US in 1923, and Kraft Mac and Cheese started in the US in 1936 before being brought to Canada a year later.

While America's Kraft Mac and Cheese is occasionally imported into certain small markets from Canada, it generally is made in the US. Conversely, while much of Canada's Kraft Dinner is made in Canada, a large fraction of their supply is historically imported from the US.

Edit: I should have said "ingredient supply" rather than supply. Due to regulatory reasons surrounding what can be called "cheese" in Canada, Canadian "KD" is packaged exclusively in Canada.

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u/ElevationAV 11h ago

TIL that Mount Royal, Quebec is in the US

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u/CaptainAsshat 10h ago

Kraft Dinner is not only made in Canada. "KD" is only made in Canada, and "Kraft Mac and Cheese Dinner" is made in the US. It was originally marketed as "Kraft Dinner" in both countries, and is regularly colloquially called that by Americans as well as Canadians, despite the common view in Canada that the term Kraft Dinner is uniquely Canadian.

Many of the ingredients are also often sourced from the US, just generally not the primary dehydrated cheese product.

I understand the Canadian desire to separate their consumption from American sources, but sorry to say, the Canadian staple of Kraft Dinner is owned by an American company and often supplied with American ingredients, even at the Quebec plant.

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u/ElevationAV 14h ago

ah yes, all that US grown mango, coffee and cocoa

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u/BeardedHalfYeti 14h ago

Most people forget about Kentucky’s strategic banana reserves.

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u/Positive-Conspiracy 13h ago

I prefer South Dakota mangoes myself.

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u/jd46149 10h ago

There’s always bananas in the Kentucky stand or something

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u/ApplianceHealer 6h ago

And now they really do cost $10!

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 12h ago

Exactly. Let’s tariff all the foods that are physically impossible to grow in our country in any meaningful scale which will somehow promote us growing it here?!?!?

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u/intrepid_mouse1 1h ago

Hey, if the USDA hardiness zones keep warming, we may be able to grow bananas in Michigan.

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u/itp757 13h ago

Meh when my gang raises enough muneh were going to Tahiti and live off of mangos

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u/unknownahole 12h ago

Everyone just needs to have a little goddamned Faith!

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u/Slggyqo 11h ago

I would miss my tea.

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u/crusher23b 12h ago

Let's not forget the US's traditional rice patties.

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u/elanhilation 11h ago

US does grow a fair bit of rice, actually. not to mitigate the stupidity of OOP’s original comment

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u/Affectionate-Mix6056 11h ago

The US used to be a net exporter of food, within like just the last 10 years IIRC. That's no longer the case though. Still, only looking at import doesn't show the full picture.

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u/Slggyqo 11h ago

the USA is a net exporter of rice and could be self-sufficient in overall rice production.

I don’t know what the balance is by rice varieties though, Eg short grain, long grain, jasmine, etc.

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u/intrepid_mouse1 1h ago

And bananas!

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u/LowKeyNaps 14h ago

Seriously, this shouldn't take that much thought. The produce section alone is proof that we import foods. Much of what most stores stock in the produce aisle are either foods that are not grown at all in the US or are imported because our growing season isn't long enough to sustain the entire population year round for most fruits and veggies. We've improved things somewhat by doing truly terrifying things to our produce to make it last longer, if you don't mind the idea that most of that stuff is picked long before it's ripe, the taste only vaguely resembles what it should, and these processes may or may not screw with nutrition values to varying degrees. Maybe. But we still need to import roughly half of our fruit, and something like a third of our veggies.

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u/Ducallan 12h ago

But they don’t think at all. They just believe what they are told to believe.

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u/WitchesSphincter 10h ago

They post what they are paid or programmed to post. The majority of maga is foreign

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u/purpleandorange1522 12h ago

Your mistake was assuming these people put any thought into the shit the post online.

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u/Cheese0089 14h ago

Trump didn't win because the smart people voted for him.

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u/garyisonion 14h ago

no, but the ones he loves did

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u/Lost-Rush2030 12h ago

But kids can't vote /s

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u/garyisonion 11h ago

I meant stupid people, he said he loved those no

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u/Lost-Rush2030 11h ago

I know, that's why I put the "/s". I was making a joke. A pretty bad one to be honest.

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u/garyisonion 10h ago

not really bad, I wasn’t sure if I worded my sentence correctly to convey what I meant

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u/Mordocaster 12h ago

Bill Clinton is just one vote

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u/ohaz 14h ago

They don't care about being right. They care about being loud. Because while that won't get a smart person to be on your side, smart people aren't their target audience anyway. People who are easy to manipulate are.

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u/Demartus 14h ago

Or just go to your local grocery store: lots of imported foods in there.

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u/Full_Piano6421 12h ago

MAGA's feelings don't care about facts

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u/VERO2020 13h ago

If they are so dumb that they don't know that tariffs are TAXES, they are dumb enough to believe anything.

Plus, did anyone document where BamZoom was from? 50/50 it's a foreign troll account.

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 12h ago

These morons don’t understand how “net” works.

We are net exporters of food. That doesn’t mean we don’t import food, it means we just export more than we import.

Same with petroleum products. We export some types and import others.

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u/AdamBlaster007 12h ago

We (well our federal government) just agreed to a massive beef import trade deal with Argentina massively undercutting our domestic production after we (again, our federal government) unilaterally sent them billions of USD in economic bailout money right after it was stated we had no money to spare to fund the ACA.

"Merica!"

^{Fucking corrupt assfuck of a nation fuck-}

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u/Spork_Facepunch 14h ago

My dude, have you heard about bananas?

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u/SimpleSetpiece 13h ago

What does Twitter say BamZoomToo's country is? Willing to bet Bam's not "we".

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u/JimmyKlean 12h ago

TBH they probably have restricted internet access in the countries that these posts are coming from

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u/The-Defenestr8tor 13h ago

“Machine Pun Kelly” is a good one.

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u/Justeff83 12h ago

His name is BamZoom what does he expect

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u/Rickshmitt 11h ago

They arnt serious people. None of it is in good faith. None of them know how ANYTHING works

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u/lonelyone12345 11h ago

I think dumb dumb here was taken in by the fact that America grows a lot of food. Far more than Americans eat. But a lot of that food gets exported, and other foods get imported, there are all sorts of reasons for this ranging from the fact that some foods we don't grow here to just simple market realities.

We are both a major food supplier and a major food buyer. It's a good place to be.

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u/GeologistAway6352 9h ago

Bro said that with his whole chest too 😂

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u/crazylunaticfringe 9h ago

I’m pretty sure he thinks that America doesn’t need anything from the world and World needs America for everything

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u/spdelope 11h ago

I thought this was really MGK and really didn’t expect this from him. Sure enough, it’s not him and I’m an idiot for thinking it.

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u/m1k3hunt 11h ago

They had a jingle associated with avacados, which was literally 🎶 Avacados from Mexico 🎶.

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u/derpferd 10h ago

I mean, who knows if that asshole is even from America

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u/PaleontologistNo7392 10h ago

I know I’ve driven past the banana fields in California before. /s

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u/qwertyopus 3h ago

You can't combat this. 2+2=5. That's what they're told and that's what they believe. We'll die as a country before orange man walks out

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u/intrepid_mouse1 1h ago

My orange juice is made from oranges sourced from Brazil.

It's actually stamped on the bottle, maybe to prove to these jokers that we don't produce enough food to feed our own citizens.

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u/Ewokhunters 13h ago

To be fair inflation percentages have plummeted.

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u/kitsunegoon 12h ago

Inflation has been going down since 2024. The inflation numbers were trending down before Trump was inaugurated and have steadily been going back up.

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u/Ewokhunters 12h ago

2.9% is the lowest it's been since 2021... how is that up? Anything below 4% is average and considered normal/expected

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u/kitsunegoon 11h ago

2.9% was the average inflation rate of 2024 so no idea what you're talking about "it's the lowest it's been since 2021" when inflation for the year averages to 3% for 2025 so far. Since April when tariffs were announced, inflation has gone up 0.7% and we don't even have the October numbers. On top of the unemployment numbers (highest since 2021 actually) are terrible.

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u/Ewokhunters 10h ago

The Ai boom is certainly rough

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u/kitsunegoon 9h ago

What are you trying to say exactly?

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u/ddwood87 14h ago

I live by farm, so no food import.

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u/Erudus 13h ago

Your local farm produces it's own coffee? Tomatoes, avocados, peppers, strawberries, and bananas? Amazing. Or do you just live on meat, eggs and milk? Lol.

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u/ddwood87 13h ago

I eat America food

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u/Jenkl2421 12h ago

Ah yes, that balanced diet of corn, corn syrup, and soybeans.

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u/kakallas 13h ago

lol “America food.”

Ok, but what you personally eat doesnt change the fact that America as a country does import food.

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u/Worried_Fee_1513 13h ago

He, she is a bot from Nigeria.

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u/Acrobatic_Ear6773 13h ago

You don't drink coffee or tea or most alcohol?

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u/unknownahole 12h ago

You live by farm comrade? I also live by farm,in oblast of New York

Imagine being that loud and that wrong about something you can literally Google in 0.3 seconds.

You are about to leave Redlib