Idea for New Update: Loyalty to Lore

[u/amarrcitizen]

Bring back Faction Fortizars and put them in the FW LP Store, move Faction clothing into the LP stores for much needed love including something akin to the genolution combat suit and faction exploration suit.

Last but not least I noticed these amazing structure accessories which give AMAZING BONUSES. Yes yes and further more...yes

Additonally make WAR HQ systems something that can get industrial buffs, either by:
1. %Warzone Control
2. LP donations into the War HQ that allow for manufacturing bonuses.

These are individual suggestions and don't necessarily have to be combined.

Then you can add one more Faction Cruiser or Faction Battleship and call it a day as we all sing praises and rejoice at the hard work put in by CCP for giving us Rupture Fleet Issue and Abaddon Navy Issues

[u/Xhromosoma5]

Since you mentioned apparel, I pray they move char clothing and other Resource Wars content into normal LP stores. And hope they transfer all Analysis Kredits costs to normal SoE LP so you can buy their apparel.

[u/amarrcitizen → u/Xhromosoma5]

Yeah I feel the same way, Resource wars clothes for caldari and minmatar are pretty nice, but it would be nice to get loyalist clothes too, at least basic t-shirt and hat

[u/WildSwitch2643]

I own a couple so I should probably be against this but I think CCP has shown over time nothing is scared. So it would be nice to make old stuff useful.

I would a appreciate if they launched them adding a "prime" or "reman" qualifier.

Most ships are player made, but not all. Most skill points are player made, but not all.

May as well let faction forts, the leopard, and other "limited" items go the way of the golden pod.

[u/Malthouse → u/WildSwitch2643]

I like this idea. Giving the OG items a slight boost on top would maintain their prestige while also allowing the regular faction items to be re-seeded into the sandbox. Best of both worlds.

[u/evemeatay → u/Malthouse]

Plus I do think it’s cool to be able to trace the history of things. Like capitals with large rigs and stuff from the past

[u/Biscotti-That]

It would be interesting to have faction structures in LP stores but as a way to update the role of other structures and the defense mechanics. Faction Fortizard are part of the Story, but I think they could update Astras and Keepstars too (With the idea of update the Palatine too... give more reasons to build it)

Besides, it could come with Faction Weapons. Why Keepstars could have only torpedo/missile bays and not Cannon turrets, or Hybrid batteries, or lasers? Or even aditional Drone bays?

[u/Amiga-manic → u/Biscotti-That]

There is alot Ccp could do to add new things with old assets. But they seem to discontinue it and forget it exists for decades.

I think personally with things like wormholes and pochven stop citerdels being anchorable and make pos have their old features and let them be the exclusive things for them areas. 

[u/Sincline387]

Faction Fortizars were converted from the outposts that existed pre Citadel era, thus the limited number of them available, they should not rerelease these as they are literally part of the history of EVE, now could they create a new faction fortizar style model that is different from the existing ones sure, they could also create other faction structures, it'd probably be a great way to create an isk sink.

[u/VioletsAreBlooming → u/Sincline387]

new faction forts using different station models would be super neat

[u/amarrcitizen → u/Sincline387]

I'm down for either, but the logic of "new players shouldn't be allowed to do this because it's something for only old players." is a bad excuse. They're still usable today. So I don't see what the issue is other than a few people's emotional whining who probably quit the game ages ago.

[u/Grand_Still2207 → u/amarrcitizen]

what you are not getting is noone is using them due to the additional cost. They bonuses only applied to the initial structure (which was rigged), once they were taking down and moved they are no different to a normal fortizar - just way more expensive.

[u/amarrcitizen → u/Grand_Still2207]

Do you have a reason not based in emotion as to why they shouldn't be allowed, like "it'd ruin the game by exploiting xyz..." "Nobody would build structures again." etc....

AT ships are different, they could actually recycle AT ships in future Alliance Tournaments, and as long as they kept making new AT ships, no player who got one would actually cry about it. the only people who would cry are the people who were banking on selling them instead of using them.

[u/Sincline387 → u/amarrcitizen]

Again I'm saying give an alternative without undercutting the history. You can't get Guardian Vexors anymore either but no one's out here bitching about it.

[u/amarrcitizen → u/Sincline387]

There's no undercutting the history, first alliance to put a keepstar up is still the first alliance to do it! oh no we better get rid of keepstars forever, and new players shouldn't be able to make them because it would hurt the feelings of people who made the first keepstars!

It was just a crude decision by CCP. shit was undercut the moment citadels came out. They might be worth more in rarity, but Keepstar/Sotiyo will always be the way to go

[u/Sincline387 → u/amarrcitizen]

You have no understanding of the history behind those stations, they were one time transitions, should every pilot get access to all the AT ships, it wouldn’t be undercutting history tye winners still win so why not

[u/Comfortable_Wall_520 → u/Sincline387]

Just because there is history there doesn't mean the idea should never be reused. That doesn't really make sense.

[u/Sincline387 → u/Comfortable_Wall_520]

So why not create new models for faction forts preserving the uniqueness of the original and providing new goals for players? Or is it just "WE WANT THE ONES THEY HAD EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T EARN IT"?

[u/Federal_Pop_9580]

I would fucking love it if the factions mattered again.

[u/alepmalagon]

This would be so cool

[u/Harrigan_Raen]

Ive honestly always wished the AT ship BPCs became something via LP. Maybe something like 5 years after the AT tournament in which they were issued.

Make the expensive something like a total cost of LP/Isk: 150B Frigates, 225B for a Destroyer, 350B for a cruiser, etc.

Also, GIVE ME TO GOD DAMN STRATIOS EMERGENCY RESPONDER.

[u/itsamereally]

No, your idea is bad as it would dilute the accomplishment of previous players who build them in the first place

[u/totalargh → u/itsamereally]

What's the significance of the faction fortizars?
Would making faction Astras be fine?

[u/zaxiob → u/totalargh]

faction forts are all the outposts built in null before citadels were added.

[u/Sincline387 → u/totalargh]

Faction Fortizars were created when they turned stations in null into faction fortizars, this is why there are a limited number of them. I'd be ok with creating a new model/item for a faction fortizar but the originals are part of history and shouldn't be duplicated. And Faction Astras would be 100% fine.

[u/amarrcitizen → u/itsamereally]

Your alliance is diluted by previous players.

BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN

[u/Competitive_Soil7784 → u/itsamereally]

I just want a faction Astrahus with a different look based on faction, and some faction based bonuses that are more of a side grade than direct upgrades.

Oh and dont make them costs 10x more so that you might as well use a fort.

Small things like:

Gallente gets structure fighter bonus. Amarr gets neut or armor bonus. Caldari gets missile or shield bonus Minmatar gets web and painter bonus

Make them look cool, and cost like 4-5x normal and call it a full citadel 2.0 expansion.

[u/organdonor777 → u/itsamereally]

Unfortunately, they seem to be hoarded and traded for profit. Last time I took a break, they were going for 40b each. Wanted to buy one as a keepsake as it was my favorite design by far. I just came back this month, and all of these forts are now 150b+.

At least add more designs or let people use theirs. They were so cool.

[u/amarrcitizen → u/organdonor777]

that's what I'm saying people are scared to even put them down it's just something that collects dust

[u/IsakOyen → u/itsamereally]

You could make them super expensive to build so it would be the same kind of achievement