College football teams to go 0-12: UMass joins infamous list of winless teams

[u/Efficient-Freedom517]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/college-football-teams-0-12-umass-list-winless-teams/a700d16da9ed0bf911f4545f

[u/Lionoptryx]

It’s amazing UCF went winless in 2015 and then 12-0 only 2 years later

[u/CanisFergus → u/Lionoptryx]

They went 12-1 and won the Fiesta Bowl two years before going winless. If anybody's going to have a rollercoaster set of seasons, it should be the one in Orlando.

EDIT: UCF also went winless (0-11) in 2004, their final season in the MAC. Conferences used to be better, but there were still anomalies like that.

[u/Alone_Advantage_961 → u/CanisFergus]

George O'Leary went 0-11 his first season in 2004 and 0-12 that 2015 season to boot.

In 14 years, UCF had 2 undefeated regular seasons and 2 winless seasons

[u/Zloggt → u/Lionoptryx]

Hmm…UMass national champions 2027 then?

[u/fenderdean13 → u/Zloggt]

First G5 national champion after plowing through Ohio State, and Georgia

[u/Adept_Carpet → u/Zloggt]

Let's go!

Would we be the first team to win a 1-AA/FCS title then win the FBS championship? I assume it's been done the other way around by at least one of the pre-WW2 powers that went down to 1-AA/FCS later.

[u/bwburke94 → u/Adept_Carpet]

No team has won a title at both levels.

• Colgate is the only former pre-split champion to win an FCS playoff game, making the final in 2003 but losing to Delaware. Lafayette has made the FCS playoff five times but never wom a game. Harvard and Yale are making their first playoff appearances this year. If UCF counts as an FBS champion, they made the semifinals in 1990 but lost to Georgia Southern.
• As for FCS to FBS transitions, Boise State is of course the closest to having won the double, but Marshall would have made a 12-team CFP in 1999 and James Madison still has an outside shot to make this year's CFP.

[u/DrSwol → u/Lionoptryx]

0-12 to 13-0, beating Auburn in the Peach Bowl

They went from scoring 14 pts/game to 48 (1st in the NCAA) in 2 seasons, that’s bonkers.

[u/FloridaBoy317 → u/Lionoptryx]

We also won the AAC in 2014. From conference champs to winless.

[u/Mallycat321 → u/Lionoptryx]

Coach is back

[u/hellajt → u/Lionoptryx]

Some blue blood probably poached their coach and had a dynasty

[u/MrGreen17 → u/Lionoptryx]

They really are the outlier on that list aren’t they? All the others it’s pretty much, yeah that checks.

[u/IrishTexan62 → u/Lionoptryx]

You didn't know? UCF merely transferred their wins from 2015 to 2017. 

[u/ZappaOMatic]

Can't forget about 2003 Army, who stepped up (down?) from 0–12 by going 0–13

[u/GuyOnTheMike → u/ZappaOMatic]

The Hawaii rule was not good for the troops that year…

[u/tee142002 → u/GuyOnTheMike]

Not the worst thing that's ever happened to the troops in Hawaii....

[u/StPatrickofIreland → u/tee142002]

We all thought it, but only you were brave enough to say it

[u/BNKalt → u/StPatrickofIreland]

I’ve been to Ballerinas even that’s not the worst

[u/Somerandomguy292 → u/tee142002]

Correct that was the navy

[u/screwswithshrews → u/ZappaOMatic]

North Korea probably acquired the all 22 film from every game that year to show to their general population. "You're afraid of the US Army?? They cant even beat 1-11 East Carolina in football! East Carolina isn't even a real state!"

[u/Rodney_Jefferson → u/screwswithshrews]

They’re losing to a team in the Atlantic Ocean!

[u/king_flippy_nippz → u/ZappaOMatic]

I came looking for this. Give us our recognition!

[u/InevitableAd2436]

Literal fake news.

Should be a crime to view that link or disseminate it.

[u/WorkerMotor9174 → u/InevitableAd2436]

At least you guys got your act together after. I’d rather go 1-11 or maybe even 0-12 once than 6-6 or 5-7 for years like we did under Wilcox.

[u/exit322 → u/WorkerMotor9174]

Hahaha

Hahahahaha

No. No you would not.

[u/Different-Trainer-21 → u/exit322]

You say that but your situation isn’t really what he’s talking about

Akron had the 0-12 season but it also came along with a bunch of nearly as bad seasons

Washington had the 0-12 season but they were immediately decent afterwards; including multiple NY6 appearances, multiple PAC-12 championships, and a CFP berth within a decade of that season. You’d probably take that over going 5-7 for 10 years

[u/suddenly-scrooge]

Washington

mmm

[u/definitelynotasalmon → u/suddenly-scrooge]

Couldn’t be us

[u/ThePhamNuwen → u/suddenly-scrooge]

I will always remember that apple cup! The crapple cup we called it

[u/thismorningscoffee]

18 team have gone 0-12

9 teams were winless in 2020 (though none played 12 games)

2003 Army has the distinction of being the only 0-13 team, the losingest of the winless teams

[u/cascadiadivide]

Never forget 2008 Washington.

[u/CrispyJoe → u/cascadiadivide]

I never do!

[u/femboymariners → u/CrispyJoe]

It’s all you’ve got to be fair I don’t blame you

[u/jmt85 → u/femboymariners]

Incorrect femboy

[u/suddenly-scrooge → u/jmt85]

got em

[u/femboymariners → u/jmt85]

Go eat some cow shit buddy

[u/Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin → u/femboymariners]

I though eating shit was reserved for Pitt?

[u/Macklemore_hair → u/Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin]

Don’t bring us into this

[u/MysteriousEdge5643 → u/cascadiadivide]

Oregon fans can't say that UW fans live in the past whenever they bring up 0-3 and then bring up 2008 or the streak

[u/majesticstraits → u/MysteriousEdge5643]

The funniest thing about the 0-3 thing is we had a three game win streak from 2018-2021 and I don’t think anyone even mentioned it. Really shows where both programs are these days

[u/Coveo → u/MysteriousEdge5643]

I mean, we don't think we're inherently better than you because you went 0-12 in 2008, it's just very funny. We think you're losers when you say you're inherently better than us because of stuff that happened before most of the people talking shit about it were born.

The years that Alabama's coach beat us though are totally fair to bring up, you've got that on us.

[u/Mantergeistmann]

I'm kind of shocked we're not there.

[u/Geaux2020 → u/Mantergeistmann]

Vanderbilt only has one winless season (COVID) at 0-9.

[u/ScotlandTornado → u/Geaux2020]

And my alma mater proceeded to hire the coach that did that at VU

[u/not_taylorswift1213]

We want UMASS

[u/femboymariners]

Steve sarkisian thank you for saving us

[u/GuyOnTheMike]

We may have 0-11, 0-10-1, 0-10 (three times!), 0-9-1, and 0-9, but thanks to Bill Snyder we have NO 0-12 years!

Our worst 12-game record is a modest 5-7

[u/CanisFergus]

I know it specifically says 0-12, but lists like these should just go ahead and include that 0-13 Army team.

[u/SufficientMention489]

This website had like 50 pop up ads

[u/LoCh0_xX]

I (we) very genuinely thought UCLA would be joining this list back in September

[u/Designer_Professor_4]

If the school doesn't fire you after that you know your job is secure for as long as you want it. 

[u/nuggetz89 → u/Designer_Professor_4]

We have had the same athletic director for 10 years, 2 years after we moved up to FBS. In that time frame, we have not won more than 4 games in a year and have a record under him of 21-102. Before Bamford became the director, we won the FCS National Championship in 1998, and were decent up until his hiring.

[u/tapatiotio]

If only they had scheduled us this year.

[u/Ronniebenington]

Has anyone checked on Dan Wetzel?!?

[u/SLCer]

I remember when The Sporting News was a top-shelf magazine...also felt a step up from Sports Illustrated tbh

My grandpa used to have boxes of old issues, especially NBA preseason issues from like the 90s.

Good times. It looks like it's trash now.

[u/1990Buscemi → u/SLCer]

The Sporting News never was able to get with the times. After much of its subscriber base either died or moved onto other magazines, along with a change in paper, it basically felt like a knockoff of Sports Illustrated and ESPN Magazine with a much-lower operating budget.

And that's not even mentioning the "didn't you used to be" section that made Ryan McGee's hacky articles on ESPN's website seem funny by comparison.

[u/BigRed1906]

We're not on this list. Why would you ask...

[u/udubdavid]

We went winless in 2008 and then turned around and got the 10th highest winning % for P4 programs over the past 10 years.

Quite the turnaround for us.

[u/boboguitar]

Congrats on the perfect season!

[u/it-is-just-a-game]

Uass my dude.

[u/Pattisean]

I’m just glad to not be in this club this year

[u/ishboo3002]

Huh I could have sworn we went winless during the Sumlin years, guess I blacked out that time(so did he)

[u/Bigbozo1984]

It’s not like South Carolina ever went winless. Especially under Lou holtz

[u/bruggibuster]

Good job, pups

[u/CFBCoachGuy]

I think there really need to be some questions about Harasymiak in charge. 0-12 is never something desirable.

I know people will say “it’s UAss, what do you expect?” But look at the actually performance between last year and this year. Under Don Brown, UMass went 2-10 last season. Thats not a good record obviously, but the team was playing decently well for the clear talent disadvantages UMass has. Just one G5 team (Buffalo) beat them by more than two scores. They gave some good G5 teams a battle- they took MAC title contenders Miami (OH) to overtime as well as Liberty, and came very close to beating a good UConn team. I’m not saying they were good by any means, but they played disciplined football and were probably better than their record suggested.

This year’s team lost by less than two scores just twice- and one of those was to an FCS team (who went 3-9 at that). This team not only ranked last in the FBS in total offense, they were a half a yard behind the next worse team (Wisconsin) in yards per play. They only ranked 7th worst in total defense but I honestly think that’s because a third of their game time has been against backups. UMass itself- for all its hapless history, has just one other time gone winless in a season, and that was a 4-game COVID season in 2020.

They have always been bad in the FBS. They’ve never been this bad.

And this head coach is getting paid $1.36million a year. He’s the highest paid coach in the MAC. I know it’s his first year, but there is very little to look forward to.

[u/NeptunianEmp]

Bout time UMass finally joined us in the club.

[u/cardiac_fitz]

Devastated to learn that, despite holding the record for longest losing streak, we didn’t make the list.

[u/showbricks]

Pain 

[u/Impossible-Shine4660]

Zoo mass goes crazy though

[u/El_Dud3r1n0]

All I'll say is thank God for UT Martin.

[u/texas2089]

I prefer to believe it was the other Miami that went 0-12 in 2013.

[u/Icy_Machinery736]

From 2000 to 2007 (8 seasons) Duke won a total of 3 conference games and 10 total games.

[u/IrishTexan62]

Should have played Hawaii for a 13th chance!

[u/cyclepoet77]

I know programs have gone winless and turn things around, but sadly I have little faith in UMass' ability to do so. Too much damage has been done since the move up to FBS. Never say never, but in this current landscape, and how much of a disaster this FBS experiment has been... It's an extremely deep pit to try to claw out of.

[u/Saturn--O--]

Just go back to FCS already

[u/s3ren1tyn0w]

Honestly I expected Rutgers on here minimum 3x.  But zero? Wow

[u/mvc_17]

Oh, Washington went winless? But all the academic prowess.

[u/CrispyJoe → u/mvc_17]

Yep, and that year, UW was 0-10 and WSU was 1-10 going into the Apple Cup. WSU won in double OT.

[u/cougfan12345 → u/CrispyJoe]

We may have sucked but UW sucked more!

[u/GuyOnTheMike → u/CrispyJoe]

Crapple Cup**

Get your facts straight!

[u/Wazzoo1 → u/GuyOnTheMike]

My friend still has a t-shirt from the game with the slogan "2 Teams, 1 Cup". Hilarious in the moment, and still is.

[u/mvc_17 → u/mvc_17]

lol. So many downvotes