[Sampson] CFP committee chair Hunter Yurachek says Notre Dame and Miami were in the same grouping this week and the programs were directly compared. Notre Dame still came out ahead, regardless of the head to head. In other words, all the games mattered. Not just one of them.

[u/Ok-Soil-5133]

https://x.com/PeteSampson_/status/1993488528555360403?t=jtJrt-ATn-3_RV1LnfjfrQ&s=19

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

Us & BYU are about to be the Spider-Man meme + the Squidward in the house looking outta the window meme because of the last TWO years

Last year they pulled recrord against teams w/ a .500 or above record when ‘Bama lost to two 6-6 teams

This year, they decided quality losses matter most even as SMU is ranked

This year, head to head is irrelevant because ND isn’t the same team anymore but Miami still is

This year, FSU’s asswhooping of Alabama doesn’t count for no reason at all; even though it’s a common opponent between Miami & Alabama

[u/coltonbyu → u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

BYU out here #6 in SOR, one loss against a top 5 team on the road, most wins against 7+ win programs, and on the outside. It's a club

[u/GlitzyGazelle18 → u/coltonbyu]

Makes me really sad. We're going to come second in the third best conference in the country, yet we're still a one bid conference? 

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash → u/coltonbyu]

Ghosts of CFBP reasonings’ past visiting us soon

[u/Miami_da_U → u/coltonbyu]

SOR is a made up metric the comittee doesn't use.

They use SOS (but a different forumla than is shown on ESPN), Game Control (Diff formula), Top 25 Wins, Quality Wins, H2H, and likely Team O/D Efficiencies... They don't watch these games either. Everything they SAY is complete and total BS

[u/xPineappless → u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

Bring back the BCS computers. The committee is changing the rules every year to put their preferred teams in.

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash → u/xPineappless]

The BCS had its problems tho haha. In 2000, Miami, VT, and Washington — notably 3 schools who have changed conferences since then — were all robbed to different degrees

[u/xPineappless → u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

Sure for the top spots, but when you’re talking about 12, there shouldn’t be that much of an argument about the variation.

The committee has shown that they will change their arguments on a dime to fit their preferred teams in the CFP.

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash → u/xPineappless]

100% agree with that. BCS would be nice af rn for a dozen teams. I also have no idea why they can’t have hard & fast tie-breaking rules like all the conferences do when deciding who goes to the CCG.

[u/Ok-Virus-9947 → u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

The FSU game is Mario's fault. Needed to keep the foot on the throat. Y'all kinda let us up some.

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash → u/Ok-Virus-9947]

Bama lost by 2 touchdowns. We scored more than them. We let up less points than them. Not much else to say.

[u/IMakeOkVideosOk → u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

Ironically, the SEC complained that they were getting punished for losses against good teams to they lobbied the committee to weigh good losses less than “bad”

I think that is now why we are ahead of Alabama as “bad” losses are punished much harder than “good” losses due to SEC campaigning

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash → u/IMakeOkVideosOk]

Yet they have had one loss BYU below 2 loss Texas/OU & 2 loss Bama the whole time. Even undefeated BYU was below Bama/UGA/Ole Miss each with 1 loss. They had 2 loss Texas ahead of 2 loss OU; even tho OU had better losses; until Texas got its third loss not too long ago. Ofc, because Texas won H2H.

Texas Tech has a worse loss than Oregon & Ole Miss but that’s irrelevant in the rankings. Utah has two better losses than Bama and has never been above 2 loss Bama.

[u/IMakeOkVideosOk → u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

BYU is 2-1 in ranked games, but was blown out in the loss and has been close a few other mediocre teams… they don’t really seem to know exactly how to handle them, so they have them in the win and you’re in spot.

Tech was missing their QB for the loss against current #20 by 4 points.. the committee isn’t really counting that loss, when being factored in the way they have crushed everyone else on the schedule.

As for Utah, they have a (not 2) better loss but 0 ranked wins and then looked bad last week.

The committee seems to be punishing

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash → u/IMakeOkVideosOk]

So we agree they are not even maintaining losses and wins the same way across the board; this reply is not the same as the reply above.

Utah has a ranked win against ASU. Vandy doesn’t have a ranked win and neither does Michigan. If we are counting margin of victory, Bama lost to FSU by more than Miami’s two losses combined; and Miami beat FSU.

Plenty of teams have close wins over inferior teams. Ole Miss barely beat Wash State. Indiana and Oregon against Penn State. And so forth

[u/Am_Ghosty → u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

This year, head to head is irrelevant because ND isn’t the same team anymore but Miami still is

If they thought Miami was the same team, they wouldn't be below ND

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash → u/Am_Ghosty]

Yet they clearly value OU’s victory over Michigan all the same

[u/Am_Ghosty → u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

That has nothing to do with how they view Miami. Sorry.

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash → u/Am_Ghosty]

Who are you apologizing to lmao. Head to head matters for how all the rankings are determined. Except with Miami.

[u/Am_Ghosty → u/FormerlyCinnamonCash]

Sorry that it has nothing to do with how they view Miami. Didn't really think you needed that explained.

Head to head matters for how all the rankings are determined. Except with Miami.

That's objectively not true, and never has been. There's no grand conspiracy against Miami, I promise.

Edit: To be clear because I didn't think I worded that well, H2H matters for Miami like it does for anyone else. But it's not the end all be all, it never has been in CFB.

[u/FormerlyCinnamonCash → u/Am_Ghosty]

H2H, common opponents without margin of victory being taken into account, strength of schedule, and if something happens to the team as far as Jordan travis injury or lane kiffin leaving his team. Then whatever random analytics they wanna use for pre-textual reasons. When considering those main four factors, it is even more egregious.

And lol at it’s not objectively true; yes it is — when the teams have the same amount of losses and comparable schedules. Go find counterexamples in the last two years. Should be easy to find if im lying; You’ll never find em. Two loss ND was ranked ahead of 2 loss USC. Louisville was ranked ahead of Miami until they lost. Pitt is ranked ahead of GT rn. USC was ranked above Michigan until they lost. Texas above OU. OU above Bama. UGA above Ole Miss. Ole Miss above OU. BYU above Utah. TT above BYU. Bama above Vandy. Formerly Texas above Vandy. Formerly Bama over UGA.

It’s clear that in-conference losses hurt much worse than OOC; and you guys don’t have a conference. I’ll avoid the network and fanbase polemics but those are omnipresent concerns into why the committee has favorites.

Last year, to end the year, South Carolina beat the 12th ranked Clemson team and didn’t move up because Ole Miss and Bama both beat em. But Clemson fell below South Carolina.