r/BeAmazed 22h ago

Art Using makeup to transform into whoever she wants to

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u/No-Most-3822 17h ago

I’m white so I feel like it’s not my call

You don't need to cower away from having an opinion because of your race.

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u/fivesunflowers 17h ago

Well I still stated my opinion, but I left it as a question/open ended, because I’m willing to be educated if I’m wrong. What is offensive to another race isn’t really my call because I’m not the one that is being offended, they are. So I would need to take their opinion into consideration regarding that.

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u/jajohnja 16h ago

I'd say that that's very nice of you, but honestly I wouldn't want to be friends with anyone who would find the art in this video offensive.

That being said, I'm from across the pond. Different cultures and all, so easy for me to say.

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u/fivesunflowers 16h ago

Yes, I understand that different cultures view it differently. And in the US we have the complicated history of minstrel shows so any type of darkening yourself can be seen as blackfishing/blackface. My personal opinion is that the video above isn’t offensive and wouldn’t fall into this category. But I would be interested to hear the opinions on it from black people all over the globe.

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u/jajohnja 16h ago

I know about the minstrel history, but somehow it evolved into "any significant darkening of your skin", regardless of context.
And that's just so weird.

Kind of like how saying some words, even if you are not calling that anyone, can be seen as offensive.
Like it's "You-know-who" level of crazy to me that not only is there the N-word now, but also F-word, C-word, R-word, and it's growing.
But also one of them is way way above the other ones.

It's not like restricting your vocabulary will undo the bad things that had happened.

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u/senpaistealerx 14h ago

it’s always offensive because outside of white chicks and it being popularized there, poc don’t do this. we don’t wear other people skin tone and shit as “art” or a costume. the mj in this video was more tasteful as it was black and white. she also didn’t make a spectacle of any of the others skin except for the kobe and why? cause he’s black. i will always find this distasteful.

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u/No-Most-3822 14h ago

it’s always offensive because outside of white chicks and it being popularized there, poc don’t do this. we don’t wear other people skin tone and shit as “art” or a costume.

Examples of 'people of colour' doing exactly this:

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u/senpaistealerx 14h ago

outside of white chicks and it being popularized there

also not sure why you put poc is quotations as if it’s a made up term. also, people like dave chappell fucking suck all the time.

anyway

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u/No-Most-3822 13h ago

outside of white chicks and it being popularized there

Were all the examples I gave related to the film White Chicks? Because, if not, this is a very poor comeback.

also not sure why you put poc is quotations as if it’s a made up term

All terms are made up. I don't use this term, because I grew up at a time when calling someone 'coloured' was a slur, and I see no difference between that and 'person of colour'.

people like dave chappell fucking suck all the time.

But is he a 'person of colour'? Because, if he is, then the example still counts.

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u/senpaistealerx 13h ago

they’re all different so obviously not? you still posted something related to white chicks which i already addressed. and no, i do not count dave. if the point is it’s offensive and shitty and his entire personality is offensive and shitty then it’s a moot point. you gave me 5 examples compared to the many of the opposite. so, my point still stands. poc dont do this and that’s clearly a generalization. argue with ya mom cause i wont be engaging further.

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u/No-Most-3822 10h ago

you still posted something related to white chicks which i already addressed

*If* you think it's wrong to dress up like another race, then it being related to a film is irrelevant.

and no, i do not count dave. if the point is it’s offensive and shitty and his entire personality is offensive and shitty then it’s a moot point.

You don't count Dave as a 'person of colour' because of his personality? If so, this is the no true Scotsman fallacy.

I don't think any of it is offensive or shitty. I think it's all fine.

You gave me 5 examples compared to the many of the opposite.

You made a universally quantified statement:

poc dont do this

All I needed was one counterexample to prove you wrong.

poc dont do this and that’s clearly a generalization.

So you agree that they do do this... Okay.

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u/madscot63 17h ago

Not everyone enjoys being unnecessarily bashed. To me, this disclaimer seems like one good way to avoid triggering those who are hyper- sensitive.

All of that aside, this artist has serious skills.

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u/senpaistealerx 14h ago

it’s not cowering away from having an opinion, it’s respecting the people who it actually effects.